trichomes in veg?

tropicalcannabispatient

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you are making a plant do something that isn't natural, at night the roots do their thing with the stuff the plant makes with the light if it is deprived of the dark it will do weird shit. where in nature is there 24 hours a light? don't fuck with mother nature she don't like it.
cannabis is a c3 plant and thats science, means she don't need dark cycle's to go to "sleep". I understand 20/4 will help with electricity bill, but nothing else., personally i run 20/4 but is for the electricity wise.. Go read about cannabis been a c3 plant, i don't want to start an argument., lets just agree to disagree.. Toke on bruh =====~~
 

Afgan King

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cannabis is a c3 plant and thats science, means she don't need dark cycle's to go to "sleep". I understand 20/4 will help with electricity bill, but nothing else., personally i run 20/4 but is for the electricity wise.. Go read about cannabis been a c3 plant, i don't want to start an argument., lets just agree to disagree.. Toke on bruh =====~~
I run 12/1 light cycle for veg 12/12 light cycle for flower and no issues of growth at all
 

greasemonkeymann

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That's called a keeper, keep those clones, some do it and like greasemonkey said, even males if you're lucky enough to pull one. For veg I use 20/4 myself just through observation and trying a bunch of schedules, I found I was getting healthier plants and about the same rate of growth at 20/4. Doesn't mean in your environment 24/0 wouldn't work as well. Plants don't need "sleep", they need good environments to grow, nothing else.
I have my plants on a 15/9 schedule.
to keep them growing slow enough so I don't have overgrown issues, and also to keep the clones from flowering instantly when I put them outside in may.
but I only have two rooms, so I GOTTA vege for the 70 days or so that i'm flowering.
clone em right before flowering, by the time they are rooted, trained, and ready for flowering, the last harvest is done
 

tropicalcannabispatient

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like i say cannabis its a c3 plant, means: She can "rest" or go to sleep with lights on., is a lie and misinformation that the plant need dark cycle IN VEGETATION but like i say YES THEY NEED REST TIME IN FLOWER "LIGHTS OUT" LIKE 12/12, BEEN THE MOST POPULAR...
 

GroErr

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I have my plants on a 15/9 schedule.
to keep them growing slow enough so I don't have overgrown issues, and also to keep the clones from flowering instantly when I put them outside in may.
but I only have two rooms, so I GOTTA vege for the 70 days or so that i'm flowering.
clone em right before flowering, by the time they are rooted, trained, and ready for flowering, the last harvest is done
Yeah, sounds much the same as my setup, I drop them down to 16/8 a lot for the same reasons, don't keep mom's either, always a juggling act....
 

Afgan King

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yup, I clone off clones, and have been doing so for almost 20 yrs.
i'm not a subscriber to the "genetic drift" argument
Well you don't do it enough to have it happen I've seen it in commercial setting but that's taking clones of clones every 9 days 256 new clones are taken. The theory isn't for people who clone 6 times a year it's for people who clone a shit ton more. Saw different phenos coming off of the same cuts of gg4, sour deisel, goji og, timewreck, hp-13, lemon g. They all threw out random shit every now and then it's why we kept moms in slabs from then on out and never had another issue
 

GroErr

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yup, I clone off clones, and have been doing so for almost 20 yrs.
i'm not a subscriber to the "genetic drift" argument
I don't buy into that either, a clone from a healthy clone is just that. Don't grow for weight but I like variety and don't have unlimited space so I clone just to keep my best phenos and males going so I can grab fresh pollen when I need it for a chuck or back-cross. Have a couple that are 3+ years old right now and if anything they come out better each time.
 

Afgan King

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I don't buy into that either, a clone from a healthy clone is just that. Don't grow for weight but I like variety and don't have unlimited space so I clone just to keep my best phenos and males going so I can grab fresh pollen when I need it for a chuck or back-cross. Have a couple that are 3+ years old right now and if anything they come out better each time.
I have cuts from early 90's and never an issue but set it up where your taking hundreds of clones and passing generations in months and it's a different story. My bubba kush and og kush both from 91 both stupid fire but seen both go haywire when cloning the shit out of them at the warehouse. For home growers there is no worry of it it won't happen
 

GroErr

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I have cuts from early 90's and never an issue but set it up where your taking hundreds of clones and passing generations in months and it's a different story. My bubba kush and og kush both from 91 both stupid fire but seen both go haywire when cloning the shit out of them at the warehouse. For home growers there is no worry of it it won't happen
I could see that being a possibility in the commercial world, but like you say for the majority of us here we'd never see issues.
 

Afgan King

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I could see that being a possibility in the commercial world, but like you say for the majority of us here we'd never see issues.
Ya you gotta think I was taking cuts every 9 days that's on average almost 800 cuts a month. You go thru generations fast. Took about 16 months of doing it to start to show effects. It wasn't drastic and just get like 1 of each strain that'd be different than the others but you could tell it was still that strain. Almost like diff phenos or how we equivalated it. Did moms and it stopped only thing that changed was our cloning practices
 

greasemonkeymann

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I don't buy into that either, a clone from a healthy clone is just that. Don't grow for weight but I like variety and don't have unlimited space so I clone just to keep my best phenos and males going so I can grab fresh pollen when I need it for a chuck or back-cross. Have a couple that are 3+ years old right now and if anything they come out better each time.
yup VARIETY!
that's where it's at.
I want a topnotch, A++ strain to smoke for each day of the week.
I want sativas, I want hybrids, I want indicas.
I want blueberry, skunk, pineapple, fruity, and potent.

I want it ALLL...

and I want it noooow... give it to ME
(shit, I wanted to add a funny meme of verruca salt...)
pics aint loading still
 

burrheadd

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Countries like Norway, Sweden, Finland and places like Alaska and North Canadaexperience 6 months of daytime during summer (and 6 months of darkness during winters).

I recon if you created a Poll most growers do 24hrs then hit the timer button.

I here what your saying, but is there any science to it? Or is it just to save a little money?
No no they don't
 

rob333

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I have a bag seed thats about 3months old, bushy as all hell and in 24hr light as it always has been. It has trichomes..its dark green leaves are healthy but dark and resinous to the point of being sticky. What's goin on here lol??
its normal don't feel to speical about it at all by week 3 of my vegged clones i have the center of the fan leaves covered in resin its just there getting ready to bud 24/0 light is a waste of time as well my friend there is no proven facts at all that 24/0 of light makes a better vegging plant and its a endless debate i go 20/4 as i find its a nice light periode for them as they will veg a tad bit quicker minuss the stress of 24
 

ganga gurl420

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I have a bag seed thats about 3months old, bushy as all hell and in 24hr light as it always has been. It has trichomes..its dark green leaves are healthy but dark and resinous to the point of being sticky. What's goin on here lol??
Pretty much every strain I have grown does that. Nothing odd about it. And I start mine under 24 hours of light until it gets closer to putting them outside where I slowly adjust them down so I can put them outdoors.
Btw you should post a pic. You keep saying how dark green it is. Usually dark green is a sign of nitrogen toxicity.
 

Lucky Luke

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