trayvan martin

RyanTheRhino said:

that is why i edit right after i posted it because it i didn't mean to say it like that. And i know how the people here will be like your hating on that senator, shes black, you said race..... YOUR RACIST

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no need to even post the pics with the words if you were not trying to get a response , the edit of the race to hatred mean little . . .. . . the issue has nothing to do with hatred . . .it has to do with a young man dead and another possible guilty of a crime that directly led to his death . . . .. . nothing to do with hate or cowboy hats or senators . . .. so what exactly was the responses you wanted from your post?

Just wondering why people dressed like that are running the country. This thread is so on topic anyway.

doc111 said:

lol! I was actually wondering if your "real world" fantasy confrontation would look something like the pic I posted? Oh, that's right! These guys have glocks and your "people" would have AR's! It could be your neighbor "open carrying" HIS glock.

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If you REALLY think this situation would play out the same in all states, you're delusional! If this scene had transpired even 500 miles away, the outcome would have been drastically different! Then again, your post of long range weaponry kinda gives you away. My point is not all TM's are just packing skittles and soda...

so your urcas brother now?

oh ya and ill be captain obvious for you

this isnt North korea we incurage and prefer to be individuals or as close to

in America

Why did trayvon automatically jump to the conclusion that zim was a threat? Lets look at it from his point of view.He's at the clubhouse taking shelter from the rain and chatting to his g/f.Once the rain lets up he starts home .As he goes down the street he see's a man sitting in his car talking on his cell phone I mean this guy must be a serial rapist right? So he runs and gets around the corner and escapes this monster in the car on his phone.After about 4 minutes of chatting on the phone he sees the crazy man again this time behind the apartments OMG he's about to rape me I better beat his ass.People talk on their cell phone in their car all the time.LOL stalked like prey what a joke.

cliffey501 said:

Why did trayvon automatically jump to the conclusion that zim was a threat? Lets look at it from his point of view.He's at the clubhouse taking shelter from the rain and chatting to his g/f.Once the rain lets up he starts home .As he goes down the street he see's a man sitting in his car talking on his cell phone I mean this guy must be a serial rapist right? So he runs and gets around the corner and escapes this monster in the car on his phone.After about 4 minutes of chatting on the phone he sees the crazy man again this time behind the apartments OMG he's about to rape me I better beat his ass.People talk on their cell phone in their car all the time.LOL stalked like prey what a joke.

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you got it right except for all the imagery . .. . .and except for the part where you combine your story with your paraphrasing of what the opposition thinks . . . . . . .it makes zero sense that martin wanted to beat up zimmer for following him . . .more likely he was cornered and felt threatened once agian by sweet coudley wife beating Z

neither men are monsters . . . . . the question is who made the mistake that was most responsible for the subsequent events to meeting . .. . and i still see Z as the aggressor actively searching for trouble and martin as the victim who had seemed to be trying to evade confrontation . . . .. nothing but the story of Z . . . who is a less then a credible individual based on his own history makes martin seem the aggressor

its real thin

Z has wounds .. . martin is dead . . . its entirely possible Z pulled the gun on martin instantly or quickly after talking to him . . . and martin doesnt need any excuse to defend himself in that speculative(for you snipers who get boared i better remain PC) scenario . . . . .

Samwell Seed Well said:

you got it right except for all the imagery . .. . .and except for the part where you combine your story with your paraphrasing of what the opposition thinks . . . . . . .it makes zero sense that martin wanted to beat up zimmer for following him . . .more likely he was cornered and felt threated once agian by sweet coudley wife beating Z

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Cornered in a long corner less walkway more than 4 minutes after he loses the guy? Another question I have is if you think someone is going to harm you (rob/rape/murder) Would you lead them into a dark walkway away from the street and confront them? or would you try you best to get to safety(run home/bang on neighbours doors/phone police/or parents)?

When I was a kid(about 8 or 9) some guy came down my street asking for directions.When I approached to answer him he tried to grab me.You know what I did,I ran like hell,only stopping once I got home.

under a eve . . . . .. . is next to a biulding

why would he stand in the rain for 4 minutes, when all biuldings like those have dry areas next to biulding

Samwell Seed Well said:

under a eve . . . . .. . is next to a biulding

why would he stand in the rain for 4 minutes, when all biuldings like those have dry areas next to biulding

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Why not just go home and talk? especially since you have a stranger hunting you like prey.

cliffey501 said:

Why not just go home and talk? especially since you have a stranger hunting you like prey.

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I'll take this one UB and save you the time. Apparently, Trayvon didn't have a bedroom/bathroom/bonus room that wasn't always occupied and would have been forced to speak to his girlfriend in front of his parents. At least that's what I keep hearing, so I'm assuming the people using that explanation are privy to the privacy situation inside his house.

How did I do?

MuyLocoNC said:

I'll take this one UB and save you the time. Apparently, Trayvon didn't have a bedroom/bathroom/bonus room that wasn't always occupied and would have been forced to speak to his girlfriend in front of his parents. At least that's what I keep hearing, so I'm assuming the people using that explanation are privy to the privacy situation inside his house.

How did I do?

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He knows this. He reads every U.B. post religiously. He just keeps repeating the same old shit.

Carne Seca said:

He knows this. He reads every U.B. post religiously. He just keeps repeating the same old shit.

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wonder why

Harrekin said:

Buck, you're being very narrow-minded. If everyone wasnt so damn afraid of everyone else (AKA Hypersensitive "Stranger Danger" Disorder) they could've had a conversation like this;
Z "Hey there"
M "Hey"
Z "I'm local neighbourhood watch and I don't recognise you, can I give you directions or are you looking for an address or anything?"
M "Nah it's fine, I'm heading to my Dads up the road"

Thats how it happens in the real world...

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that's just grand. zimmerman was the one who was supposedly looking for an address. LOL!

zimm had already profiled martin and decided he was a thief. "there's been a lot of break ins" and "these assholes always get away" and "he's going for the back entrance". look at the history of zimm's calls with the police, he mentions the back entrance previously. look at zimm's history of temper problems and snapping, following motorists around and the like.

if that was all zimm wanted to do, he could have done it while martin was under the eave, staying out of the rain while talking on his phone instead of deciding he was a thief and calling the police.

cliffey501 said:

Why not just go home and talk? especially since you have a stranger hunting you like prey.

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more evidence that cliffey has not only been victimized by the subpar canadian education system, but was too plagued by acne to have a girlfriend in high school.

martin had every right to be where he was. a better question would be, why didn't zimmerman just go back to his truck and sit tight and wait for the police to arrive?

MuyLocoNC said:

I'll take this one UB and save you the time. Apparently, Trayvon didn't have a bedroom/bathroom/bonus room that wasn't always occupied and would have been forced to speak to his girlfriend in front of his parents. At least that's what I keep hearing, so I'm assuming the people using that explanation are privy to the privacy situation inside his house.

How did I do?

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martin didn't live there, who knows if he had his own room in that house.

and the can of iced tea was for someone else, iirc.

and you didn't do that well.

UncleBuck said:

that's just grand. zimmerman was the one who was supposedly looking for an address. LOL!

zimm had already profiled martin and decided he was a thief. "there's been a lot of break ins" and "these assholes always get away" and "he's going for the back entrance". look at the history of zimm's calls with the police, he mentions the back entrance previously. look at zimm's history of temper problems and snapping, following motorists around and the like.

if that was all zimm wanted to do, he could have done it while martin was under the eave, staying out of the rain while talking on his phone instead of deciding he was a thief and calling the police.

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Fact:There had been alot of break ins in the area
Fact:These assholes(anyone doing break-ins I would consider an asshole) had a history of getting away through the back entrance.

Why would he approach martin at the eave ?He deemed him a suspicious person.Why didn't he shoot him dead as he walked by the car and claimed stand your ground? In the 911 tape he says hes got something in his waistband He could have shot him and said he thought the guy was coming towards him aggresively and pulling a gun.Cops make that mistake all the time so I don't see how a regular civilian couldn't make that same mistake especially in a state with the SYG law.

UncleBuck said:

more evidence that cliffey has not only been victimized by the subpar canadian education system, but was too plagued by acne to have a girlfriend in high school.

martin had every right to be where he was. a better question would be, why didn't zimmerman just go back to his truck and sit tight and wait for the police to arrive?

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Maybe he was in the waiting in the area he had last seen the person he just reported?

cliffey501 said:

Fact:There had been alot of break ins in the area
Fact:These assholes(anyone doing break-ins I would consider an asshole) had a history of getting away through the back entrance.

Why would he approach martin at the eave ?He deemed him a suspicious person.Why didn't he shoot him dead as he walked by the car and claimed stand your ground? In the 911 tape he says hes got something in his waistband He could have shot him and said he thought the guy was coming towards him aggresively and pulling a gun.Cops make that mistake all the time so I don't see how a regular civilian couldn't make that same mistake especially in a state with the SYG law.

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so besides you admitting that zimm profiled martin incorrectly, what else do you got?

cliffey501 said:

Maybe he was in the waiting in the area he had last seen the person he just reported?

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that's not his story.

damn that subpar canadian education, eh, clifford?

cliffey501 said:

Fact:There had been alot of break ins in the area
Fact:These assholes(anyone doing break-ins I would consider an asshole) had a history of getting away through the back entrance.

Why would he approach martin at the eave ?He deemed him a suspicious person.Why didn't he shoot him dead as he walked by the car and claimed stand your ground? In the 911 tape he says hes got something in his waistband He could have shot him and said he thought the guy was coming towards him aggresively and pulling a gun.Cops make that mistake all the time so I don't see how a regular civilian couldn't make that same mistake especially in a state with the SYG law.

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Excellent, Some one has a dam good ideal of what happened