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cliffey501

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UncleBuck said:
through the gap in the houses to cut off martin from the back entrance.

these assholes were always getting away, can't have that.
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So it took zimmerman 4 minutes to walk around the houses to cut martin off?Theres a big scary monster chasing you and you run around the buildings and decide to have a 4 minute chat with your g/f? come on now.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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Samwell Seed Well said:
or self defense laws . .. . they are not as black and white as that

to claim self defense you have to be able to remove all doubt that you could possibly have been a aggressor or directly repsosnible for the situation . . .. .other wise it is not self defense . . . . . other wise its provocation and your intent and mindset will be included to illuminate the reason why you choose to take the actions you did

is this mind of thinking off. . . . . .

at this point harriken and doc are making some good points and id like to know what you think?
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I think they should've just left each other alone...but ultimately in court it'll come down to who threw the first punch and I think Zimmerboy (in the absence of physical evidence contradicting his story) will probably get away with it.

However IF Zimmerman was simply keeping an eye on Martin and actually was attacked on the way back to his truck, then it's probably fair to say it was self-defence.
 
Samwell Seed Well

Samwell Seed Well

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i think the trail of martins headset, and skittle and drink and the marks in the grass from the scuffle will all work agianst zimmerman but we will see

if martin attacked Z the hand held objects like candy and arizona tea will be where martin was standing before the incident started and headset will either be where he fell or on the way to if its the other way around there will be a trail of tea skittle and headset to help dictate the time line of events and exacclty who was agressing who


my guess all the items are in a small and localized position to where martins body was found . . . . . . indicating to me that he didnt attack or chase Z but rather the confrontation scuffle and shooting all happend in a small area
 
Stillbuzzin

Stillbuzzin

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UncleBuck said:
so if someone steps on my foot in passing i can shoot them dead, since the extent of the injuries matter not?

i can go up, confront someone, start a fight, let them pull a few hairs out of my had and scratch me a little, then start firing away in self defense?

sorry, that's not how "stand your ground" works.
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So your gonna start shooting people who step on your foot. Did you ever find that address you were looking for. Maybe some one will help you find it.
 
Stillbuzzin

Stillbuzzin

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UncleBuck said:
in the 911 tpe, it was reported that he ran away from zimmerman. you can hear zimmerman get out of his truck and give chase for about 20 seconds as evidenced by the wind hitting his phone mic.

martin had no obligation to return home and kept talking on the phone to his girlfriend when zimmerman then confronted him (see how you have this the wrong way around?) according to the only testimony we're going to get.

chase someone, they run away, you go find them again...and then claim self defense? LOL! no.
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Poor little Uncle Buck
 
Stillbuzzin

Stillbuzzin

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Samwell Seed Well said:
will you shut up

you loser go argue in th e mirror please

you baby troll

please at least argue with him and not at him
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Its Ok for you an buck to do this but no one else. Double standards dont ya think. I really didnt see the rules where every post had to be serious on this web site.
 
Samwell Seed Well

Samwell Seed Well

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you are not saying anything you are bating UB, you are not engaging anyone in converation or debate you're attacking UB and im sure ill get the next 4 responses as you have little control of yourself

dont be a child

you have nothing to say with any content so go beat off or do somthing else futile and self serving
 
Stillbuzzin

Stillbuzzin

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Samwell Seed Well said:
you are not saying anything you are bating UB, you are not engaging anyone in converation or debate you're attacking UB and im sure ill get the next 4 responses as you have little control of yourself

dont be a child

you have nothing to say with any content so go beat off or do somthing else futile and self serving
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You know Ill think about it. Now calm down. Please dont get mad.
 
doc111

doc111

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Samwell Seed Well said:
you are not saying anything you are bating UB, you are not engaging anyone in converation or debate you're attacking UB and im sure ill get the next 4 responses as you have little control of yourself

dont be a child

you have nothing to say with any content so go beat off or do somthing else futile and self serving
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You the hall monitor now?:roll:
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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cliffey501 said:
So it took zimmerman 4 minutes to walk around the houses to cut martin off?Theres a big scary monster chasing you and you run around the buildings and decide to have a 4 minute chat with your g/f? come on now.
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"i think i lost him" were martin's words.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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doc111 said:
......not a legal one though. Me "following" you is NOT justification for you to throw the first punch.
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you don't know if it was the first punch.

and yes, if you are chasing me with a gun, i have every right to defend myself from you.

perhaps i'll go to the park today and just start chasing people around and see what happens.
 
doc111

doc111

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UncleBuck said:
you don't know if it was the first punch.

and yes, if you are chasing me with a gun, i have every right to defend myself from you.

perhaps i'll go to the park today and just start chasing people around and see what happens.
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Go for it!;-)
 
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