Total Infestation-Fruit Flies?

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oswizzle

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Try talking to them... see if you guys can come to a mutual agreement or some sort... perhaps offer them a new home or venue to gather at... silly lil critters
 
Renfro

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Topo said:
I just read this:
"Can I use vinegar to kill aphids?
Get out a spray bottle and fill it 1/3 of the way with distilled white vinegar and the rest of the way with water. This will kill the aphids and larvae on contact. Place a square of aluminum foil around the base of plants affected by aphids. ... It is also good for the plants, as it brings them more natural sunlight."


It's certainly worth a try, thanks!
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Beware that using any foliar application that is acidic brings with it the potential for powdery mildew. PM likes a acidic environment. This is why many common treatments for PM include the use of an alkaline foliar application such as potassium bicarbonate. Knowing this, it is imperative to control temperature and humidity after the foliar application to prevent a PM outbreak. PM spores are always present except perhaps in a professional "clean room".
 
Topo

Topo

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Renfro said:
Beware that using any foliar application that is acidic brings with it the potential for powdery mildew. PM likes a acidic environment. This is why many common treatments for PM include the use of an alkaline foliar application such as potassium bicarbonate. Knowing this, it is imperative to control temperature and humidity after the foliar application to prevent a PM outbreak. PM spores are always present except perhaps in a professional "clean room".
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It's unreal that you mentioned PM. I lost my most last crop to PM. I tried everything. As you can tell, I'm probably not the luckiest grower around :wall:. And PM in Colorado, totally WTF>>>?!
 
Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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I have had aphids on outdoor before couldn't even bring them in ...left them in the barn a couple cold nights and poof they were gone
 
Gratefultrip

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I live in the upper midwest I put my soil outside to freeze when it gets below zero, this kills everything. I would use a good organic insecticide rather than other plans, This should kill them after a few sprayings.
 
xtsho

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jcurtis912 said:
If you can, take the water hose and gently spray the bottom of the leaves, knocking them off. It's a balanced not too hard, not too soft
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This ^^^^^^^^^^^

I wouldn't spray anything organic or not on flowers that far along. If you have one of those handheld shower heads put them in the shower and spray them off with plain warm water and then put the plants in front of a fan to dry off.

But you really should keep a better eye on your plants. An infestation like that doesn't happen overnight.
 
Topo

Topo

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xtsho said:
This ^^^^^^^^^^^

I wouldn't spray anything organic or not on flowers that far along. If you have one of those handheld shower heads put them in the shower and spray them off with plain warm water and then put the plants in front of a fan to dry off.

But you really should keep a better eye on your plants. An infestation like that doesn't happen overnight.
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Yeah, for sure, thanks. But this infestation did pretty much pop-up overnight. I check my babies daily. I read that aphid infestation is one of the more rapid propagations of bugs. I also need to wear my glasses when I check them. I tend to look at them with a naked eye, and now I realize I may have spotted them sooner had I worn my glasses.

Fuck it sucks getting old!
 
tiltswitch

tiltswitch

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Permethrin will pretty much kill most things, spray and do a drench.if your heavy into flower you can always wipe down the leaves by hand, its a ball ache but possible. Soapy water will slow them down and somewhere on here theres an organic chilli based recipe for flies mites etc thats supposed to work and can be used in late flower.thats one of the worsed cases iv seen . good luck!
 
Topo

Topo

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tiltswitch said:
Permethrin will pretty much kill most things, spray and do a drench.if your heavy into flower you can always wipe down the leaves by hand, its a ball ache but possible. Soapy water will slow them down and somewhere on here theres an organic chilli based recipe for flies mites etc thats supposed to work and can be used in late flower.thats one of the worsed cases iv seen . good luck!
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Thank you!
 
Topo

Topo

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Well, gonna finish up on this thread, thanks to all that contributed. I destroyed most of the crop; the infestation was too overwhelming. Tonight, I noticed all this on top of my HID light. WTF?! I thought flying aphids were quite rare. This is a shitload of them!

This is why I thought it was fruit flies initially.

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FresnoFarmer

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Topo said:
Well, gonna finish up on this thread, thanks to all that contributed. I destroyed most of the crop; the infestation was too overwhelming. Tonight, I noticed all this on top of my HID light. WTF?! I thought flying aphids were quite rare. This is a shitload of them!

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When infestations get real bad some aphids grow wings to fly to another plant. That's a crazy amount you have there. If you treat your seedlings with Imidacloprid next time the aphids will starve and die off. There must be some vegetation outside your house that is rampant with them though. I would treat those plants with imidacloprid also and release green lacewing larvae.
 
Topo

Topo

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FresnoFarmer said:
When infestations get real bad some aphids grow wings to fly to another plant. That's a crazy amount you have there. If you treat your seedlings with Imidacloprid next time the aphids will starve and die off. There must be some vegetation outside your house that is rampant with them though. I would treat those plants with imidacloprid also and release green lacewing larvae.
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Thanks for your input. The mystery is...where did they come from because these affected plants never went outside...ever. Maybe they came from the bag of Fox soil I left outside. Tell me what you think; the aphids came from the soil, and crawled up into the plant via the main stem.

To prevent future outbreaks, shouldn't I just apply a thick coat of neem oil on the main stems? That way, they can't make it up to the top and under the leaves? Just a thought. This was a nightmare and I'm thinking of ways to prevent this from happening again. If they didn't crawl up from the soil through the stems, then how did they completely infest the plant?

I just popped a bunch of new seeds (Guptilla) and look forward to my next grow. But I am still spooked about this recurring in the future, and prevention is the cure.
 
FresnoFarmer

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They can come in on clothing or shoelaces or hair unnoticed . All it takes is one, because they give birth to live young and don't have to lay eggs to reproduce. They breed fast af. Neem oil won't kill them off completely in my experience. It will help keep them in check but you're gonna want them gone before flowering especially because they shit out a sticky white secretions in bud crevices and cause black sooty mold. Order Adonis 75 and be done with them.
 
Topo

Topo

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FresnoFarmer said:
They can come in on clothing or shoelaces or hair unnoticed . All it takes is one, because they give birth to live young and don't have to lay eggs to reproduce. They breed fast af. Neem oil won't kill them off completely in my experience. It will help keep them in check but you're gonna want them gone before flowering especially because they shit out a sticky white secretions in bud crevices and cause black sooty mold. Order Adonis 75 and be done with them.
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Thank you Fresno. Ans hell yeah, they breed as fast AF. Adonis 75 it is.....
 
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