Topping auto's.........Any tails to share

point is to increase the amount u get from the one plant there by reducing your cost of getting by in this world

the goal is to gain 2 to 4 main colas(big stick bud) instead of the general one

justugh said:

point is to increase the amount u get from the one plant there by reducing your cost of getting by in this world

the goal is to gain 2 to 4 main colas(big stick bud) instead of the general one

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So wouldn't you get the same amount of every yield whether you had 2-4 colas vs one big one?

it keeps them short and uniform

and from my experience it makes them run a little longer but not in a bad way like it stopped growing
it has to recover but still veg's during this time

tekdc911 said:

it keeps them short and uniform

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tekdc911 said:

and from my experience it makes them run a little longer but not in a bad way like it stopped growing
it has to recover but still veg's during this time

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So if there's a short shelf life and topping makes them take longer, wouldn't it be a bad idea to top an auto? Plus, aren't autos already short at least?

depends on the strain.............mine is 30-60 cms ( 2 foot )

i did not know about it growing slower .........i was after the 2 main colas.........( i want to keep one in a jar for later and give the other to my sister inlaw) when my neice (her kid) goes get me stoned then i break out that other one her mom had and then smoke her up and tell her mom had the other big fight then they all have a bong hit and relax ............one of my evil master mind plans ..........6 plants 7 colas ..............3 for me 3 for friends 1 for the neice


she has already asked me to hook her up with bottles of shine so she can get light up at college parties ( as far as i know she is the only one showing up with shine at the parties and they ae loving it )

justugh said:

well this strain berry ryder goes
baby leaf
start of veg leaf
3 fingers
3 fingers
5 fingers
5 fingers
5 fingers
Flower/one more set of 5 fingers
flower

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I should of mentioned earlier I'm used to photos and this is my first AF grow, so not really sure if the leaf sets differ from the photos or not.

i have no clue about photo .............i had one plant then these 2 guys stole it ....took me awhile to find out who but i did and their cars burned after they repaired from the bleach in the gas tank double whammy ...........they know it was me and why i did it if they have the balls they know where i am this was 13 years ago since then..............as for the kid all good he will talk shit and have his front teeth knocked in one of the days (wish i could see to laugh but knowing it comming works for me)

this time i am in a tent with a shotgun (enough ammo to take on a zombie army after my plants) ........by the way incase there is really one comming all u guys/gals on here have a important skill .................u can grow plants in doors/grow plants period .........so u have food /medical supplies to trade

doniboy said:

So if there's a short shelf life and topping makes them take longer, wouldn't it be a bad idea to top an auto? Plus, aren't autos already short at least?

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ive had them end up around 4' my box is 5' added led's
and you take the fact that you need 1 1/2' from the plants to the led's
so i have to keep them wide and short for my box
my HBD had 25 + cola's pointing straight up
it's not for everyone
i guess
but there's more then one way to skin a cat you know
it works for me

tekdc911 said:

dude smoked himself retarded

smh

i guess its time for me to do the same


cant wait until school starts again thin some of the youngsters back out of the mix

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You can that again brother

naw i just plan for the worst case ...........this way i am never disapointed and always happly surprized


plus i kind of want the zombies this system out here is so messed up and no one is fixing it just grabbing what they can and keep saying it is ok everything is fine .........anyone with a set of eyes and a tv remote can flip to other news channels and see it is not fine things are pretty messed up .................if not zombies then give me ww3 or something just no more of this ................if i was a rich ass i would buy a island stock it up run around butt ass nakied and tell everyone this is Myisland and throw poop at them untill they leave if that does not work release the army of angery stoners and tell them they have their weed

doniboy said:

What's the point/goal of topping any plant?

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When you top the plant, the chemical change within the plant causes new brnahces to grow from the axillary buds which are right on the top side of the area where the leaf petiole connects with the stem. Sometimes you can see the buds which seem like they are barely growing if at all, and sometimes you wont see anything but when you top the plant, you make them grow out.You should see noticeable flushing out of the axillary buds within 24-48 hours on most fast growing herbacious plants. IT also makes the top split into two which cdoubles the amount of main colas youd get and you can do it over and over doubling the amount each time you do every branch.

alright jeffdog sounds good brother i wish u well on the rest of ur grows...hell yea i smoked myself retarded i cant even tell the difference. between a nugg that weighs a gram and a nug that weighs 3 grams anymore... thats what happens when u smoke 6lbs in 7 months....

a jeff u said my statements where amusing and funny...im glad i put a smile on ur face.hit the like button brother!!!

EverythingsHazy said:

When you top the plant, the chemical change within the plant causes new brnahces to grow from the axillary buds which are right on the top side of the area where the leaf petiole connects with the stem. Sometimes you can see the buds which seem like they are barely growing if at all, and sometimes you wont see anything but when you top the plant, you make them grow out.You should see noticeable flushing out of the axillary buds within 24-48 hours on most fast growing herbacious plants. IT also makes the top split into two which cdoubles the amount of main colas youd get and you can do it over and over doubling the amount each time you do every branch.

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Yes, but I was under the impression that the point of it was to keep a shorter and/or more manageable plant with less popcorn buds. Plus when you top or FIM, you're cutting off growth and the plant does take some time to recover. I do not understand why topping/FIM'ing is beneficial for such a short and time restricted plant.

i feel the same way lst is much diffrent i get that to an alternative. to chopping anything.... but like i said in an earlier post i think
cutting these plants is a bad idea i would recommend low stress training instead of topping fiming or supercropping....in my opinion way to stressful. ...

doniboy said:

Yes, but I was under the impression that the point of it was to keep a shorter and/or more manageable plant with less popcorn buds. Plus when you top or FIM, you're cutting off growth and the plant does take some time to recover. I do not understand why topping/FIM'ing is beneficial for such a short and time restricted plant.

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All growers crave a heavy harvest. We want large, thick, sticky coronas and a plant packed with more large, sticky buds.
In states that allow marijuana growth or use for medicinal or recreational use, there is still typically a limit on the amount of plants a person is allowed to grow. We always want to get a maximum harvest, so techniques like topping have been developed to allow growers to really pull in a heavy harvest with a minimum number of plants.
Topping is also cost-effective, because you can have a smaller hydroponic system and purchase fewer clones or seeds. Here's how it works, in a nutshell.

Topping: The Basic Concept

Topping is actually a very simple process with a simple concept. When you cut your main stalk right above a node (see illustration below), two slightly-smaller main stalks will sprout from the remains. Each of these stalks will grow its own corona/cola (i.e. the big ol' bud at the top) and you will end up with a larger final haul.
Another effect of topping is that it tends to keep plants shorter and bushier, so that they can mature fully without getting too close to your lights and risking heat damage. As long as you provide adequate light (to avoid "stretch" -- the term for when your plants grow excessively tall in an attempt to reach the light) you should get two (or more) excellent coronas from a properly-tended plant.
While it is very simple, it must be done with care. Cut only the stalk, and use a very sharp tool, like a fresh razor-blaze or specialized scissors. Some growers with sharp nails will pinch off the growth as well, which seems to be a good method also.
Choosing Topping Locations

Generally, one would let their plants get slightly larger than these ones before beginning to top, perhaps three or four good nodes worth of growth at least, but for the sake of clarity (so you can actually see the nodes clearly), we are using a smaller plant.


Topping Multiple Times


Alternative Methods

Some growers have developed their own topping techniques, from very delicately removing only the top growth from side stems while other like to be more aggressive and remove center stalks. This is just a basic guide to give you the general idea of why topping exists and where to cut or pinch off the upper growth.
As you start to experiment with your own plants, you will likely develop a topping technique that works well for you. As long as you top your plants with care and take care of them properly, this method can be used really effectively to maximize your harvest and achieve bushy, loaded plants.

thats great info for a regular plant but we are talking about autos jeff and that pinching off some of the new groth method is refered to as fim. "f@@@ i missed" these plants are on a natral timer in this case more light means bigger buds...not more veg time in a earlier. post on page one u compared lst to topping how can u compare the two when one is a safe alteratve to the other....hence low stress training..what im pretty much saying. is can u explain. why topping if better then lst? why the plant wouldnt. be in shock from topping it? and also why hacking it up would be a good thing to do when these plants are on a specific time frame? do these type of plants nt require any recovery time after getting their head cut off?u seem to think u know what ur talking about plz enlighten us jeffdogg!

doniboy said:

What's the point/goal of topping any plant?

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*More bud sites.
Even light penetration.
Lower center of mass.
Improved yield.