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mr.smileyface

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Hi guys i have 4 4x8 tables and my cousin wants to put them to good use at our uncle joes house.
I have constructed a drip system out of Pex tubing 3/4 and spagatti tubing.
I know how to set a drip up for Pots.
1.Where should the tube go on the rockwool?
2. How long do i run the drip system for?. i have 8 16'long 3/4 tubing with drippers. 23c in the room on average.
3.What is the size cube for a sog plant with no veg?
4. How many of those sog plants can i fit on a 4x8 table? lets say 4x4 or 6x6 cubes
5.Any ideas on running the lines?
6.Can i do 1 line for two or three rows?

I need your help this time guys. I dont have experiance with active hydro. Any help would be good. rep+
 

la9

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1.Where should the tube go on the rockwool?

Doesn't matter as long as the rockwool soaks it up.

2. How long do i run the drip system for?. i have 8 16'long 3/4 tubing with drippers. 23c in the room on average.

Probably 2 - 3 times a day for about 15 minutes, the rockwool needs to dry out some, running it constantly will drown your plants. It depends on the size of the plant and the size of the rockwool cube. You just need to get the rockwool cube wet and give it time to dry out.

3.What is the size cube for a sog plant with no veg?
4. How many of those sog plants can i fit on a 4x8 table? lets say 4x4 or 6x6 cubes

Just have to do the math and leave a little bit of room between them.

5.Any ideas on running the lines?

Just use T fittings and let it drip to each one, or go to the pet store and get some airling valves for aqauriums, they are plastic and cheap, you can use one for each plant so you have pressure in the main line and adjust the flow for each plant.

6.Can i do 1 line for two or three rows?

Yep, just get those valves and cap the end of the line and you can adjust it however you like or put a valve at the end of the line if you want to relieve some of the pressure and have it return to the resevoir.

Hope that helps you out.
 

mr.smileyface

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1.Where should the tube go on the rockwool?

Doesn't matter as long as the rockwool soaks it up.

2. How long do i run the drip system for?. i have 8 16'long 3/4 tubing with drippers. 23c in the room on average.

Probably 2 - 3 times a day for about 15 minutes, the rockwool needs to dry out some, running it constantly will drown your plants. It depends on the size of the plant and the size of the rockwool cube. You just need to get the rockwool cube wet and give it time to dry out.

3.What is the size cube for a sog plant with no veg?
4. How many of those sog plants can i fit on a 4x8 table? lets say 4x4 or 6x6 cubes

Just have to do the math and leave a little bit of room between them.

5.Any ideas on running the lines?

Just use T fittings and let it drip to each one, or go to the pet store and get some airling valves for aqauriums, they are plastic and cheap, you can use one for each plant so you have pressure in the main line and adjust the flow for each plant.

6.Can i do 1 line for two or three rows?

Yep, just get those valves and cap the end of the line and you can adjust it however you like or put a valve at the end of the line if you want to relieve some of the pressure and have it return to the resevoir.

Hope that helps you out.
Yea i have pumps and air pumps. Do you have to stake the tubes to the rockwool? can you make a hole for the tube? how should i deal with the run off?
 
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Illegal Smile

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I don't use drips but I think the tube should not be on top of the rockwool. Try to position it against the cube about halfway down. I believe that makes it harder for the cube to get too wet on top and cause stemrot.
 

la9

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Yea i have pumps and air pumps. Do you have to stake the tubes to the rockwool? can you make a hole for the tube? how should i deal with the run off?
As long as you mount the tubing so it doesn't move you don't have to stake it to the rockwool and don't know why you'd want to. You should have them on a table like an ebb and flow so the water runs into the corner and into a resevoir or some kind of channel like pvc spouting.

Don't understand what you mean by putting a hole in the tube unless you are going to put pinholes in the drip line, which won't work for long because they will get plugged up.
 

mr.smileyface

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As long as you mount the tubing so it doesn't move you don't have to stake it to the rockwool and don't know why you'd want to. You should have them on a table like an ebb and flow so the water runs into the corner and into a resevoir or some kind of channel like pvc spouting.

Don't understand what you mean by putting a hole in the tube unless you are going to put pinholes in the drip line, which won't work for long because they will get plugged up.
Ok i mean, All i have is 3/4 pex pipe with drippers and spagatti tubes. I dont have anything on the end of the tube. Its just a tube coming off the pex pipe. How should i place that tube on or in the rockwool?
 

la9

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I'm not sure I understand, is the 3/4 pex your main line ? You just need to plug the end of it or put a valve on it to control the pressure. If you are asking how to run lines off the pex I'd use T fittings, 3/4 to 1/4, or 3/4 to 3/8 and then a valve to each one to control the flow rate. That way you can adjust for bigger and smaller plants. I haven't really been around PEX so I'm not sure how rigid it is or what fittings they make for it.
 

la9

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Rockwool Slab Drip Irrigation

Rockwool (an inert fibrous material produced from a mixture of volcanic rock, limestone, and coke melted at 1500 to 2000˚C extruded as fine fibers and pressed into loosely woven sheets) has excellent water-holding and aeration characteristics, making it a very desirable rooting medium. A typical rockwool slab (0.3 x 0.8 x 3.6 meters) is encased in plastic. Small holes or cuts are made along the base of the plastic casing that allows excess nutrient solution to flow from the slab while keeping a small depth of nutrient solution in the bottom of the plastic casing.
This method of growing is as follows: a tomato seed is germinated in a small rockwool cube; and when the tomato seedling has initiated true leaves, the cube is placed into a larger rockwool block. When the plant roots are about to emerge from the base of the block, the rockwool block is placed on an opening in the rockwool slab. The nutrient solution or water is delivered at the base of the plant in the rockwool block with sufficient volume so that the solution will flow into the rockwool slab. The management of the growing system in terms of nutrient solution composition, and frequency and amount delivered to the plant is based on environmental factors, such as temperature and light conditions, and plant status, such as size and stage of growth.

The nutrient solution that accumulates in the slab must be periodically monitored for its electrical conductivity (EC), and when reaching a certain level, the slab is leached with “pure” water to remove accumulated salts, with the leaching water being applied through the drip irrigation system. Therefore, an environmentally acceptable means of disposal of the effluent from the slab is needed. A rockwool slab can be reused several times and then discarded. In the Colorado greenhouses, the rockwool slabs are replaced on a schedule of 16-18 months. Currently for the hydroponic growing of tomato, rockwool is the preferred rooting medium worldwide.

Perlite Bag Drip Irrigation
Perlite (a natural substance crushed and heated to 1000˚C forming a white, lightweight aggregate with a closed cellular structure) is placed in a plastic bag of about the same dimensions as a rockwool slab. Small holes or cuts are made along the base of the plastic bag that allow excess nutrient solution to flow from the bag while keeping a small depth of nutrient solution in the bottom of the bag.
A tomato seed is germinated in either a rockwool or germination cube; and when the tomato plant has true leaves, the cube is placed into either a larger rockwool block or a cup containing either perlite or rockwool. When the roots are about to emerge from the base of the block or cup, the plant is placed into an opening in the perlite bag.
The nutrient solution or water is delivered to the base of the plant in the rockwool block or cup by means of a drip irrigation system. The composition of the nutrient solution and its schedule for delivery are based on environmental conditions and plant growth stage as described for the rockwool slab method. The nutrient solution in the perlite bag is monitored for its EC, and when the EC reaches a certain level, the bag is leached with pure water applied through the drip irrigation system. Therefore, an environmentally acceptable means of disposal of the effluent from the perlite bags is needed. The perlite in the bag can be used to produce two crops and then must be discarded.
 
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