Took clones. Wish me luck.

Drooping cause you let the dome dry out before you are rooted
I personally would stop worrying about till you have established plants
Every time you open that dome to check on them you delay results
Most people only most the dome
I can’t see them but close any vents

medidedicated said:

Hello.

I was out of funds for supplies for now, I was behind schedule as well. I realized I still had the dome and decided to give cloning another try.

Was going to buy everything to clone but then decided to see how this goes incase I take much longer to succeed. Never cloned before. Maybe these will pull through.

Will try them sometime, though I was hoping to learn how to clone with the bare minimum. I seen it done in front of me without ANYTHING. I was like, come on! I can do this too with extra effort lol.

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Did you blow all your money on that sweet germination box? I have one and wouldn't mind another. I've had great success with cuttings and seedlings in there. You can get roots in a cup of water.

shnkrmn said:

Did you blow all your money on that sweet germination box? I have one and wouldn't mind another. I've had great success with cuttings and seedlings in there. You can get roots in a cup of water.

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Hello,

I don’t have a flower tent and setup yet and went through a lot buying things I found to be useless for now. I do not get much to spend lol. I should get by, but buying the maximum supplies would be about $200 but have veg plants ready for flower. Not sure what to expect but may plant seeds if I don’t see roots soon enough.

If I start harvesting smokable weed I can already open much more money for my growing budget. By then I should have everything but for a perpetuating garden to kick off I need to act fast. Seeds are expensive.

Herb & Suds said:

Drooping cause you let the dome dry out before you are rooted
I personally would stop worrying about till you have established plants
Every time you open that dome to check on them you delay results
Most people only most the dome
I can’t see them but close any vents

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It dries fast when temps hit 90 to 95F. I did not open it once for 6 days now just about. Sprayed water lasts about 3 days then is about dry in the lid.

medidedicated said:

It dries fast when temps hit 90 to 95F. I did not open it once for 6 days now just about. Sprayed water lasts about 3 days then is about dry in the lid.

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Find a cooler spot you need almost no light

Herb & Suds said:

Find a cooler spot you need almost no light

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60F to 65F anywhere else. Too cold, no other supplies or ways to heat to perfect temps. Space heater will cost a shit ton to run, already seeing the grow on my electric bill.

I tried those temps before and same settings with a heater, no results. Thought the above 72F needed would be a big difference from last time. A bit hot though sometimes.

Been 85F lately for the most part which I would think is good but not 95F. Another difference is I did not open the dome at all yet.

I can and will take more cuttings and try cooler temps by relocating. Cups with plastic bag over it. Mothers have plenty of shoots. Not very long though, was waiting a few weeks. Hope these pull through.

medidedicated said:

60F to 65F anywhere else. Too cold, no other supplies or ways to heat to perfect temps. Space heater will cost a shit ton to run, already seeing the grow on my electric bill.

I tried those temps before and same settings with a heater, no results. Thought the above 72F needed would be a big difference from last time. A bit hot though sometimes.

Been 85F lately for the most part which I would think is good but not 95F. Another difference is I did not open the dome at all yet.

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65 is fine

Herb & Suds said:

65 is fine

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I moved it and it hit 60F and was sure it was going to drop to 55F, gets real cold. Slowed growth in veg tent compared to same strain in a warm 2x2.

I read everywhere that it will avoid rooting below 72F. It is likely to stay between 55F and 63F appearently as it is outside a tent and putting it into a tent will need a stronger light to keep temp.

I did remove dome to gently water pucks with just distilled water, sprayed lid and plants with distilled mixed with 1ml/gal baking soda to prevent mold so I can keep lid on another week without touching anything.

Removed lower foliage. Snipped tips of leaves that touch the floor or droop over its starter puck too much.

Maybe I can meet in the middle with all advice and use a fan to keep area under 90F. Mold looked like the deadly kind to plants. Like the mold on bread and fruits.

Leaves started perking up when back to same spot at 72F morning and 82F evening with some days reaching peak heat at 95F for a few hours but fans can drop temps by 5F from what I measured before. Could air it out too.

If mold doesnt form in a week or longer, I would say the lower foliage removal and baking soda had to of helped a lot.

Sterile all around, maybe it was because low foliage right by the cut usually dies and rots, was just on one spot on two different cuttings size of a quarter.

Overall they look like what was done last night did not hurt and may of upped chances of rooting. Just need to stay below 90F evidently so far. Light is pointed away to be as dim as possible.

Close the vents
Start opening them gradually as roots appear
I have no idea why you are worrying about a little mold
If it’s not powdery mildew it’s common on top of moist soil
I like the new temps but again clones don’t need a tent or even much light

You're making this much more complicated than it needs to be.

Good luck

Herb & Suds said:

Close the vents
Start opening them gradually as roots appear
I have no idea why you are worrying about a little mold
If it’s not powdery mildew it’s common on top of moist soil
I like the new temps but again clones don’t need a tent or even much light

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Vents have been closed all this time. I should of posted a pic of it, it was a big patch that surely would of spread which happened last time.

I was under the impression once mold is present, just keeps coming back and back. Was hoping baking soda would stop this. It might, that tip was a video with a big time grow op giving tips. Said it should not happen after applying but ofcourse to sterilize everything too.

I was thinking, most people say to wait a week at least at a time to open dome. I did that, and might as well removed some mold.

Tempe are very very consistant as well as humidity.

Thank you for your advice, direct interaction helps a lot and I do tend to try out 99% of advice with 1% being advice I cannot follow right away, financiqlly or physically.

xtsho said:

You're making this much more complicated than it needs to be.

Good luck

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medidedicated said:

Vents have been closed all this time. I should of posted a pic of it, it was a big patch that surely would of spread which happened last time.

I was under the impression once mold is present, just keeps coming back and back. Was hoping baking soda would stop this. It might, that tip was a video with a big time grow op giving tips. Said it should not happen after applying but ofcourse to sterilize everything too.

I was thinking, most people say to wait a week at least at a time to open dome. I did that, and might as well removed some mold.

Tempe are very very consistant as well as humidity.

Thank you for your advice, direct interaction helps a lot and I do tend to try out 99% of advice with 1% being advice I cannot follow right away, financiqlly or physically.

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Then take the aforementioned advice

xtsho said:

You're making this much more complicated than it needs to be.

Good luck

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You tend to say that on most of my posts lol. I thought cloning had some discretion haha. I followed your vivosun suggestion on last post, GREAT working filter.

I did conclude and start making things less complicated with the last posts where I was being a little stubborn, was fresh into this. Cloning though, oof, as new as I am - I thought most would understand.

Herb & Suds said:

Then take the aforementioned advice

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Taking 5 or 10 cuttings and will try different mentioned advice.

Just looking for what works so I can move on and not complicate things further. Thats how things have been going so far.

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Sterile knife, cut across node in an angle. Put into cup of distilled right away. Put into soaked Jiffy Pallets that had soaked for a couple hours in distilled water. Sprayed the dome with diluted peroxide/distilled water (.75ml/gal).

Wish me luck. Should stay above 72F and 50%RH ambient. Is hot where it is at, can get 95F. 23w CFL.

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Good luck! I feel ya! Clones are a challenge! Sounds like you did it by the book. Please post results.

MinniePerlite said:

Good luck! I feel ya! Clones are a challenge! Sounds like you did it by the book. Please post results.

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Hello, thanks! I surely will!

I cannot find that these little specs of something were sticking out before. I can only hope these are roots trying to pop out? More below? It is brownish color with a little white, like a dried out pre-root.

Anyway, update, this is day 14. 8 days ago since I last opened the lid as shown above. The baking soda might of helped, mold showed up 4 or 5 days originally. Or removing foliage was all it needed. Did not clip the leaf stem right next to the stem so it molded.

People keep saying do not worry anout it though. Will remove dome again when everything dries up to water pucks and dome while I am at it. Should last close to the 21 day mark, the floor is wet and pucks look ok.

I think your keeping those peat pellets too wet. With rapid rooters or root riot cubes, I like to moisten them with PH'd water, then I squeeze out all the excess water like I'm wringing out a sponge, so that when you squeeze it, just a few drops come out. Then, allow the cubes to dry out slightly for a couple of days before doing it over again. Just spray the inside of the dome, don't spray the seedlings or the bottom floor, or the cubes. You should have gotten roots by now-you should see roots in at least one of those at the 7 day mark, if not earlier. Don't give up, cloning takes some practice, but once you get it, you'll have 100% success rates.

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I think your keeping those peat pellets too wet. With rapid rooters or root riot cubes, I like to moisten them with PH'd water, then I squeeze out all the excess water like I'm wringing out a sponge, so that when you squeeze it, just a few drops come out. Then, allow the cubes to dry out slightly for a couple of days before doing it over again. Just spray the inside of the dome, don't spray the seedlings or the bottom floor, or the cubes. You should have gotten roots by now-you should see roots in at least one of those at the 7 day mark, if not earlier. Don't give up, cloning takes some practice, but once you get it, you'll have 100% success rates.

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What PH? I use distilled which is 5.5. I used google for this one that said 5.5 to 5.8. Next time I eould soak for longer to PH it if it is not rockwool. What PH would you say for jiffy pallets? I have no supplies to supplement them with anything.

I speculated temps above 80F were stressing them so they did most of their progress during the night and morning til afternoon unless it is a nice day to them at 75F all day. Opening dome as some said may of delayed things.

I think you are suggesting saturated media is causing low oxygen levels causing some delay which must be what makes aerocloners work faster? And coco due to the rockwool like h2o/co2 levels? So wait until it is clearly due for some water and only douce it every couple days?

I always thought the domes were more for keeping stagnant air for the cuttings and the RH% would naturally be 60% to 90% easily if any water is present inside on floor, walls, pucks and plants.

Sorry to type excessive, I know it is cringy but things are clearly not going as good as they can. Your input is very helpful and appreciated, If they rooted I would if moved on.

Good thing I have Quick One seeds 5-9 week life cycle to stay on schedule if this fails. If so, will take 10 more cuttings and try different things mentioned here. Would hate to kill any clones to stay in limit, thats why I didn’t yet.