Frank Nitty
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FACTS...
To all you Mainline experts, check this out
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StareCase
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As a fellow 2 x 4 x 5 tent grower, doing a Screen of Green (SCROG) grow will also help to maximize your yield. Use a SCROG netting across the whole 2 x 4 floor space. Weave the plants through the net until the net is full from corner to corner. Then flip ...
Fishing4life12
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Hey Frank, its located in the grow journal section. ( top left corner of page) I honestly dont knownhow to add it to my profile. Sorry. If anyone knows, please advise. Thanks
Frank Nitty
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How would i make that work in a 2x2x3?
StareCase
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Hmm … 3' is not very high and kind of limits your options. What lighting are you using?
Frank Nitty
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Hlgqb100...
StareCase
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For that light, HLG recommends hanging it 12" above the canopy if used for primary lighting. The output is pretty good at 12" but you do not want to go any lower than 12".
So that gives you 24" to play with for the pots, plants, fans, exhaust, etc. ...
And of course the great unknown - how much pre-flower stretch will there be? I have one strain that spikes close to 24" during pre-flower stretch. Depending on the strain, height sounds like it might become an issue.
For that small space, Sea Of Green (SOG) might be a better option than SCROG. In a SOG, you have 6 to 8 smaller plants in small pots that you flip to 12/12 once they get to about 6" - 8" tall. Gives you a bunch of bud clustered around the main stalk.
So that gives you 24" to play with for the pots, plants, fans, exhaust, etc. ...
And of course the great unknown - how much pre-flower stretch will there be? I have one strain that spikes close to 24" during pre-flower stretch. Depending on the strain, height sounds like it might become an issue.
For that small space, Sea Of Green (SOG) might be a better option than SCROG. In a SOG, you have 6 to 8 smaller plants in small pots that you flip to 12/12 once they get to about 6" - 8" tall. Gives you a bunch of bud clustered around the main stalk.
Frank Nitty
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I could put my 288 in there... I'd like to use them both in one of my tents but I'm thinking that the light patterns are too different... Im still a noob...
Purpsmagurps
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These are my current plants in 10 gallons of coco because I long veg.
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JohnDee
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Good morning F4L...just a little aside. I live in a huge fishing area just off the Columbia river. Everybody has boats and are out on the river at the crack of dawn. Me, well I eat fish. lol
Curious if your getting any vertical growth yet. Been thinking about these two methods and they both have pros and cons. Nebula's method requires the flat nature of the manifold because it relies on side branching and you want them equal. With Nugs method...it uses top growth shoots only. So the manifold needn't be so flat. So I believe that's why our plants look so differnt...well that plus you defoliated more.
I've been running across a few plants that totally don't respond but are prime candidates for a simple 4 cola topping style....somewhat like Uncle Ben's method. I guess my point is that I'm not too happy with the delay this training takes and the more I think about it, the less I feel the whole nute delivery thing is valid. Might be just more Bro' science...
JD
Fishing4life12
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Hey john d, thats awesome where you live. I live close to the niagara river where tons of boats travel to fish everyday, especialy in the fall and spring for the trout and salmon run.
As per my plants, they r growing up wards but i flattened them to the outside edge of my pot and now all let her go(black rhino), as for my cbd plant, shes taking her sweet ass time. Kind of a slower plant and maybe be realted to more sativa dominant or lack of thc or its just a plant that doesnt like training at all. But i did hear that she will take off once i flip. Its no where near the edge of the pot but all give her a bit more then flipp since her sister is way closer to that point.
Im new at everything for indoor and for training plants and ive been following nebulas methis to the T and so far its been working, takes time but working. Wish there was abit more of a guidkine to what type of plants are less likely to adapt to this method. Live and learn is the approach i guess. Lol.
Once my lights turn on, all take some pics and show u whats up.
As per my plants, they r growing up wards but i flattened them to the outside edge of my pot and now all let her go(black rhino), as for my cbd plant, shes taking her sweet ass time. Kind of a slower plant and maybe be realted to more sativa dominant or lack of thc or its just a plant that doesnt like training at all. But i did hear that she will take off once i flip. Its no where near the edge of the pot but all give her a bit more then flipp since her sister is way closer to that point.
Im new at everything for indoor and for training plants and ive been following nebulas methis to the T and so far its been working, takes time but working. Wish there was abit more of a guidkine to what type of plants are less likely to adapt to this method. Live and learn is the approach i guess. Lol.
Once my lights turn on, all take some pics and show u whats up.
JohnDee
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F4L,
My best trained plant is a Matanuska TF and my black Widow did well too. Both are quite branchy. But I just couldn't figure out the best way to approach the single cola plants,..so am going to use a different method with them. So that's one opinion...for what it's worth...
JD
PS: I think some of the plants in Nebulas tut were defoliated to provide good stem visualization for the tutorial.
My best trained plant is a Matanuska TF and my black Widow did well too. Both are quite branchy. But I just couldn't figure out the best way to approach the single cola plants,..so am going to use a different method with them. So that's one opinion...for what it's worth...
JD
PS: I think some of the plants in Nebulas tut were defoliated to provide good stem visualization for the tutorial.
Fishing4life12
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Makes sense John D. The black rhino took well to it, Dinamed CBD ,Not so much but is still doing its thing and slowly. Experiment is where im at. Lol. Maybe all just top once and then use the other method for her next time. I mean, i suppose at some point i may have took to much off but i did follow the tut. All be letting them go as i have been and see where it leads. It is workimg but takes time thats all. Some people dont have the patience or time for it and thats where i think people stary away from these methods. If in the end i get a shit load then maybe all keep up this method. Cheers F4L
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Here they r. I just adjusted the grey pot (Dinamed CBD Plus) and Im letting the black pot get some height( Black Rhino).
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JohnDee
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Hey man...they're coming along nicely. Your growing shoots/colas are nicely separated...whereas mine are all mushed together. My plan is to use some sort of support ring the held them apart and give them support once they get taller...but you may not need to do that. Of course height dependant...anyway, thanks for the shots.
JD
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JohnDee
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F4L,
I took a photo of the plant that I posted earlier. I was using Nugs method but when I made the second set of toppings...I did it at node2 by mistake. (Nebula reccomends stripping node two, top at 3 and let node one grow) So all my branches were all lined up on the same plane. So I just switched over to my own modification of Nebila's method and topped and trained all 4 shoots ending up just like yours. 4 on each side.
JD
I took a photo of the plant that I posted earlier. I was using Nugs method but when I made the second set of toppings...I did it at node2 by mistake. (Nebula reccomends stripping node two, top at 3 and let node one grow) So all my branches were all lined up on the same plane. So I just switched over to my own modification of Nebila's method and topped and trained all 4 shoots ending up just like yours. 4 on each side.
JD
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Fishing4life12
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JD.
It lools great at any rate. Let me know how it turns out for you. I assume ull have to train a little more to spread each stem appart enough to grow the 8 colas. Who know tho. Hahaa. Im no expert by no mean, but i could only assume.
I just flipped my tent from 18/6 to 12/12 light schedule. Below are what they look like today. New feeding formula, using the organic bloom now and also have just turned on the switch bloom on my led light and kept the veg light on aswell. So far so good. I forget how high my plants are as i switch over to new flower light schedule, but you could view my journal as i posted all measurements.
Good luck John, can t wait to see the twist in your new design for Nebulas fornula. Im rooting for ya
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JohnDee
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F4L,
The way your manifolds are spread out more...plus your limited headroom should give you plenty og room for the colas. But yes I may have to do some trellising...though I suspect the colas would naturally tend to fall away from center. Nugs tutorial shows plants tight together at the bottom yet wider apart at the top. He uses tomatoe rings. I've used heavy guage bonzai wire in past training. Plants are looking good. I like the nice canopy from this style training.
One other idea I'm pondering is to just go with 4 colas. Forget the last topping. Gonna try it both ways.
JD
The way your manifolds are spread out more...plus your limited headroom should give you plenty og room for the colas. But yes I may have to do some trellising...though I suspect the colas would naturally tend to fall away from center. Nugs tutorial shows plants tight together at the bottom yet wider apart at the top. He uses tomatoe rings. I've used heavy guage bonzai wire in past training. Plants are looking good. I like the nice canopy from this style training.
One other idea I'm pondering is to just go with 4 colas. Forget the last topping. Gonna try it both ways.
JD