TM's 3K OP...version 2.0
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tilemaster
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thanks slip and SS. yes i have come a long way indeed. man if i had to rows of canopy the way i have 1 i think id be rolling. r/o will go in after the next bank of lights, or 1light /1lightrail. ones thing is for sure. i have the motivation to get this shit done.
tilemaster
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just priced it out bout another grand for all the improves but then the flower room will be 3.6kw. and 1k of it on a 6ft light rail . next cycle will be sog all the way with ample #s
simpsonsampson420
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hell ya bro.. thats not bad at all to finish things out... so your going sog huh?? makes sense if you can support the numbers.. i just dont like the idea of having to carry mums to do it... i like the idea of raping 60 day vegged plants of the clones i need to move forward.. it amazes me the differences between grow ops and the needs of people based on their given set up... i cant wait to check out some pics of what you have going.. hell.. maybe in the end ill switch to a sog style grow.. after i get the coliseum.. well.. i guess.. technically i will have a sog style... in the coliseum.. or is it considered sog?? its not so much a sea of green... but... hell i dunno
tilemaster
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ya it would pretty much be . i just say sog as high plant numbers even canopy style. pushed tight. lollipopped.
slipperyP
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I think this is the optimal way to go...as long as the plant numbers are high enough. It is the same plan as I have. Big plants are impressive esspecially outdoor, but I feel like indoors you spend alot of energy growing stems and leaves.
pinner420
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Wall of green!! When done vertically...
tilemaster
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Pretty bud there Pinner
so just bought 3 more 1k lamps. 1 in stock getting 2 more by end of week. . . getting 1 more hung tonight. got the mlc controller. got to get that installed be4 i fire the new lamp, plus picked up 220 cords for all ballasts. soon to be 5.6 k in the budd room.
so just bought 3 more 1k lamps. 1 in stock getting 2 more by end of week. . . getting 1 more hung tonight. got the mlc controller. got to get that installed be4 i fire the new lamp, plus picked up 220 cords for all ballasts. soon to be 5.6 k in the budd room.
tilemaster
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put that mlc in today. quick job but damn.... i fished the 8/2 romex thru and wuz kinda of fighting it thru the stud thru the main service panel and bumped the bus bar with the ground on the new 8/2 . sparked and stuck the wire to the bar. i re thought the deal and cut off the 200amp main and started over. got all shit in mounted up and all ballasts switched over to 220v cords. . .. basically they gave me a dual trigger mlc box, so if im running 8lamps in budd 4 will fire from 1 timer and the other 4 from another timer. timers just hook to wall 110 normal shit, and the box controlls 8 1k lamps @ 4 amps/220, = 32amps on wire rated for 50 and on a breaker for 40. should be pretty sound little deal if all makes sense.
slipperyP
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Sounds excelent big dog....Ive been meaning to give you a call....been busy...whats your hours these days? are you still doing construction?
tilemaster
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home in evenings on the average slip. usually after 6p. nope no tile work. just a little furniture delivery. ive got my cdl. so i been trying to stick it out bout 30 hours a week. dragging my feet thou. cant wait to do this full time but with my girl still on maturity leave i cant justify not working 2 jobs essensially. over 20 patients, getting hard to do the growing/working/evening med meetings, and maintain a healthy relationship with my lover. anywhich way im doing it, just gets harder as the garden gets larger. yes big dog call anytime u want. give u my cell phone
slipperyP
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Glad to hear the garden is growing and your keeping busy.....Sounds like your busy as a 1 legged man in an ass kicking contest. Mine garden is comming together slowly....Im at 11 patients but i have stopped adding patients till I have surplus crop.
tilemaster
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edit things changed . bud room will be the 6 1 k lamps, and ill keep the 600 too, strip the hood out and hang it vert wherever is the shaddiest. so room will be 6.8k . veg room will remain same for a while till i can use t5 over cloners and rock to 1k mh lamps ive pretty much decided on. i have the climate to make the 1kers work almost as effieciently as 600s so there it be..
tilemaster
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6 1000's , 1 600, 1 400 , and 1 T-5 should make for a good show
simpsonsampson420
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well bro... it sounds like you've been busy all around..
the new bud room should be nice!.. you should get some very impressive plants with that much lighting in there.. then when you make the switch to hydro you should get some astronomical yields!
its amazing how much you are juggling.. im sure your lady is pretty understanding tho.. i mean, you gotta take care of shit until she is back up and working right?? and it shouldnt be long before you can sustain a living just on patients... well actually.. i am curious.. how does the patient thing work?? is there a monthly cost?? a per visit cost?? i always, in my head, picture it somewhat as legalized dealing.. obviously i dont think what we do is dirty like teenage kids selling pot for whatever they do for money... i do believe in the healing properties.. i was just curious as to how it all worked..
well keep it up bro... i know its hard sometimes.. but just keep pushing.. you'll get there eventually... and when you do you'll love it! wherever that "place" is...
the new bud room should be nice!.. you should get some very impressive plants with that much lighting in there.. then when you make the switch to hydro you should get some astronomical yields!
its amazing how much you are juggling.. im sure your lady is pretty understanding tho.. i mean, you gotta take care of shit until she is back up and working right?? and it shouldnt be long before you can sustain a living just on patients... well actually.. i am curious.. how does the patient thing work?? is there a monthly cost?? a per visit cost?? i always, in my head, picture it somewhat as legalized dealing.. obviously i dont think what we do is dirty like teenage kids selling pot for whatever they do for money... i do believe in the healing properties.. i was just curious as to how it all worked..
well keep it up bro... i know its hard sometimes.. but just keep pushing.. you'll get there eventually... and when you do you'll love it! wherever that "place" is...
mygirls
Medical Marijuana (MOD)
sound like you will be watching them bitches grow with all that light.. way to go should be really good..
tilemaster
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ya for sure SS, good things are coming. as far as the patient thing out here is how it works. btw the med thing has thrown the price game for a loop, ie, i offer my meds for 10 a gram up to a quarter, and 125 a half 250 for the z. makes it ecoconomical for the average patient with a dibilating disease. any way how it works is once 1 patient signs up up, by sending the doctor reccommendation, and a patient/caregiver application to the state health department. once 1 patient does this for you, you become a registered caregiver. every patient you sign = 6 plants for the caregiver. also provides the patient to grow their six. the state registration fee is 25 bucks, and the doc visit anywhere from 100-2 bills. that has to be done once a year by the patient, but alot of caregivers foot the cost for the patient. so if you have 100patients, thats 600plants essenstially. patients here can only aquire meds from there 1 designated caregiver. there is no limit yet on patients, square footage , or lighting..
yes MG fitting to be a jungle
yes MG fitting to be a jungle
slipperyP
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ya for sure SS, good things are coming. as far as the patient thing out here is how it works. btw the med thing has thrown the price game for a loop, ie, i offer my meds for 10 a gram up to a quarter, and 125 a half 250 for the z. makes it ecoconomical for the average patient with a dibilating disease. any way how it works is once 1 patient signs up up, by sending the doctor reccommendation, and a patient/caregiver application to the state health department. once 1 patient does this for you, you become a registered caregiver. every patient you sign = 6 plants for the caregiver. also provides the patient to grow their six. the state registration fee is 25 bucks, and the doc visit anywhere from 100-2 bills. that has to be done once a year by the patient, but alot of caregivers foot the cost for the patient. so if you have 100patients, thats 600plants essenstially. patients here can only aquire meds from there 1 designated caregiver. there is no limit yet on patients, square footage , or lighting..
yes MG fitting to be a jungle
Heres a couple more items about the montana law from the ACT. Theres a couple key terms to understand the law and some highlights.
(4) "Medical use" means the acquisition, possession, cultivation, manufacture, use, delivery, transfer, or transportation of marijuana or paraphernalia relating to the consumption of marijuana to alleviate the symptoms or effects of a qualifying patient's debilitating medical condition.
(6) (a) "Caregiver" means an individual, 18 years of age or older who has agreed to undertake responsibility for managing the well-being of a person with respect to the medical use of marijuana. A qualifying patient may have only one caregiver at any one time.
"Ive seen this used as a loop in the law...i/e hanging the plants with the roots and taking what you need."
(a) "Usable marijuana" means the dried leaves and flowers of marijuana and any mixture or preparation of marijuana.
(b) The term does not include the seeds, stalks, and roots of the plant.
Section 4. Medical use of marijuana -- legal protections -- limits on amount -- presumption of medical use. (1) A qualifying
patient or caregiver who possesses a registry identification card issued pursuant to [section 3] may not be arrested, prosecuted, or penalized in any manner,
or be denied any right or privilege, including but not limited to civil penalty or disciplinary action by a professional licensing board or the department of
labor and industry, for the medical use of marijuana or for assisting in the medical use of marijuana if the qualifying patient or caregiver possesses
marijuana not in excess of the amounts allowed in subsection (2).
"Being presumed to be engaged in medical use" That is the key wording here...That should keep you out of most court cases
(3) (a) A qualifying patient or caregiver is presumed to be engaged in the medical use of marijuana if the qualifying patient or caregiver:
(i) is in possession of a registry identification card; and
(ii) is in possession of an amount of marijuana that does not exceed the amount permitted under subsection (2).
"Having a card dosent give right to search"
(7) Possession of or application for a registry identification card does not alone constitute probable cause to search the person or property of the person possessing or applying for the registry identification card or otherwise subject the person or property of the person possessing or applying for the card to inspection by any governmental agency, including a law enforcement agency.
"Your cards in other states are good here
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A registry identification card or its equivalent issued by another state government to permit the medical use of marijuana by a qualifying patient or to permit a person to assist with a qualifying patient's medical use of marijuana has the same force and effect as a registry identification card issued by the department."This is one of the most importing parts of the law. The bad side is if your using this section of the law your in jail or bailed out." The best part is almost anything you do relating to medical marijuana, Heres the key part....stay under your medical umbrella...you can do anything "reasonable"
" (3) possesses marijuana only in an amount that is reasonably necessary to ensure the uninterrupted availability of marijuana for the purpose of alleviating the symptoms or effects of the medical condition of the person identified in subsection"
NEW SECTION. Section 7. Affirmative defense. Except as provided in [section 6], it is an affirmative defense to any criminal offense involving
marijuana that the person charged with the offense:
(1)(a) has a physician who states that or has medical records that indicate that, in the physicians professional opinion, after having completed a full
assessment of the persons medical history and current medical condition made in the course of a bona fide physician-patient relationship, the potential
benefits of medical marijuana would likely outweigh the health risks for the person; or
(b) provides marijuana to a person described in subsection (a) if the person does not provide marijuana to anyone for uses that are not medical; (2) is engaged in the acquisition, possession, cultivation, manufacture, use, delivery, transfer, or transportation of marijuana or paraphernalia relating to the consumption of marijuana to alleviate the symptoms or effects of the medical condition of the person identified in subsection (1)(a); and (3) possesses marijuana only in an amount that is reasonably necessary to ensure the uninterrupted availability of marijuana for the purpose of alleviating the symptoms or effects of the medical condition of the person identified in subsection (1)(a).