Tiny PC Case Personal Grow - First Grow In Almost A Decade

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I'm going to let it go and try to do a seed grow, I wouldn't smoke anything grown with this mold and I need seeds.
Hopefully it's still female so I can make some feminized seeds.
However I dare say it's days are numbered.
If it does survive, surely the next generation would be more resistant to mould?

So for now we'll just ride it out and see how it goes.
Whatever happens I think this will be the last grow before I move, there's only 3-4 months until I'm out of here anyway.
 
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Vedge Day 10
Total Days 10

Bit of a kick in the guts today guys. On the plus side I am VERY happy that I didn't use one of my feminized seeds as the test subject.
It's day fucking TEN and I've already got mould in here. Black dots everywhere.
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The room that I'm growing in has always had a problem with mould and mildew growing on the walls.
I thought the massive amount of airflow through the box might have been enough to stop this from happening. But alas, she's starting to mildew up already.
This is beyond fucked as it's really the only room I can grow in without being noticed.

I'm not about to rip it out of the soil and give up, I'll let it go for another week or 2 and see if the plant starts to fight it off later on.
BUT if I get mildew NOW imagine what it'll be like later on down the track, full bloom. then BAM mold up the ass!

IF this plant dies or just can't stop the mould from spreading I think I might have to re-think growing until I move house later this year.

Only other news for today is it got another watering, last one before it get's it's first dose of nutes 2-3days from now.

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Vedge Day 15
Total Days 15

So I came back from camping to a nice surprise! I can't see any more mold... for now? Fingers crossed it stays this way!
By the look of how dark green the leaves are I think I may have gone just a bit hard with the nutes, anymore and I would have burnt it. Plain water for the next feed I think.
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image.jpg Looking better man. Neem oil seems to have done the trick. In my grow I accidentally crushed the stem on my going on 5 month old plant. And it's on the verge of death but we will see how it goes.
 
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rickylaging said:
I accidentally crushed the stem on my going on 5 month old plant. And it's on the verge of death but we will see how it goes.
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Don't fret to much mate, some times a good dose of stress will actually make your yields even higher.
 
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Vedge Day 16
Total Days 16

I decided to give it the same dose of nutes as last time after all, however I flushed out the medium with plain water first to avoid any build up of nutes.
If you look closely in the first pic you can see the first set of branches forming, depending on how fast they develop I may top within the next node.
I know some people say "only top after the 5th node" and some even say the "6th node", But I've always just topped from when I can clearly see a set of branches formed with their own leaves growing.
After that I'll wait for them to stretch out a bit and tie them down, normally repeating the process at least one more time after that, sometimes twice more to get 4-8 tops depending on space available and time already spent in vedge. Aparently this is called "mainlining", I've always just called it "I hate trimming useless popcorn fluff buds".

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Vedge Days 19
Total Days 19

More issues. Notice the browning of the leaf tips.
My best guesses as to what's wrong.
  • PH off. I'm using one of those PH strip test kits ment for fish tanks and pools, I might invest in a digital PH meter or at the very least a liquid based test kit.
  • Chlorine in the water. I didn't have an issue with it last time so I didn't even think about it this time. I think it'll pay to buy a case of bottled water (1 watering would be lucky to use 1L of water) so a pack of 12x1L bottles should last me over a month and cost less than $10.
  • Nute burn. My PPM meter is super old and is more than likely out of calibration, I did think the last mix took a lot of nutes to get it up to 250 ppm. They're less than $10, might be an idea to just buy another one.
  • Or (most likely) all three things are compounding the problem.
I used to grow with a "fuck it, it'll be fine until it's not, at which point I'll fix it" attitude and it worked for me, it really did.
I just mixed nutes with my tap water to what the chart said for that week and watered. I never had anything worse than a few PH problems towards the end but by that time I was only a week or so until I'd start flushing anyway.

Part of me wants to blame the strain or the small space for all the problems I'm having but realistically I know it's simply because I've tried to be lazy.
I'm on day 19 and I have a plant that looks like it's a week old. If I want to get anywhere with this grow I guess I'll just have to start giving it more attention.
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It doesn't look bad man for 19 days keep in mind a low watt grow is a long tidious process, I have embarked on this journey. 5 months into growing my plant I'm getting ready to cut her down and patience has been key I'm really impatient and I think you awnswred most of your questions. I have a few what does the plants water run off container look like because the container you are using looks like it would leaks out the side slits is it? Do you have a way to let the water run off from the planting container so you can test the ph ? I would be into 12-12 by now just because of such limited space idk if that's you every persons different and that's what makes the world awsome, can you take a side pic so I can get a perspective on how big she is to the computer case?
 
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rickylaging said:
keep in mind a low watt grow is a long tedious process,
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I guess so, I used to start my seedlings under a very similar setup, only in a much larger box. By day 14 they'd be root bound in solo cups. I think that it's been significantly slowed by all the problems I've had.

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I would be into 12-12 by now just because of such limited space idk if that's you every persons different and that's what makes the world awesome, can you take a side pic so I can get a perspective on how big she is to the computer case?
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I'll take a photo later tonight when the lights come back on showing just how small the seedling still is. It's about 1.5" high and still very juvenile. My plan is to top 3 times.
Once as soon as I see the first true branches, the second time when those branches are putting out their own branches and then a final top at the same time I flip to 12/12.

The following diagram is fairly crude but it shows the mainlining idea I've got in my head. The very first grow I ever did as a kid was like this and considering it grew out of a 2L coke bottle with no nutes other than what was in the potting mix, hidden between our garden shed and the fence with barely any direct sunlight it had some AMAZING results, an oz and a half dry. At 16 with a pile of home grown bud I felt like a damn drug king pin haha!

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Basically I'm not about to let anything grow UP until it's reached the edge of the container, at this rate I've got weeks of time before that happens. I'll need the extra vedge time as each topping is going to stress the hell out of it and slow it down for a couple days.

Also, thanks for all the input so far Ricky, the 2nd opinion on everything has really helped me decide what to do at each problem I've encountered. It's much appreciated.
 
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rickylaging said:
? Do you have a way to let the water run off from the planting container so you can test the ph ?
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The PH strips say the run off last time was the same as what I was putting in. But the strips aren't too accurate in my opinion.
I've just ordered new PH and PPM test meters from ebay, they should be here in about 2-5 days. It will need more water today or tomorrow so I'll just give it some bottled pure water for now, no nutes or PH correction. I'm almost positive it's chlorine and nute burn combined.
 
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Vedge Day 20
Total Days 20

A few extra pic's tonight to show it's size compared to the grow space. Still a LOOOOOONG way to go.
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image.jpg image.jpg Good shit man the container your growing in didn't seems to drain Enough for me when I used it to grow. I recommend you switch to a plastic circle container with lots of holes on the bottom along , with a bit of small rocks on the bottom to help keep in water and ground the roots when they hit the rocks. Make sure that the container will fit a saucer or bucket of some sort to catch the run off. Inside your computers case That way you can clean out the nutrients from the medium and have samples on deck of run off,
 
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Sorry I forgot to mention the drainage of that pot. Lol, I knew I forgot something.
The tray comes off and I let it drain completely at each water before I put it back on. The bottom inch of that pot is 1 inch of pure per lite. There's also several holes at the bottom of that pot. I'll take more photo's tomorrow. The biggest killer with this pot it the depth. I have a feeling the tap root has hit the bottom of the pot and gone, "well shit!? looks like I'm out of space" then stopped growing instead of spreading outwards. But that's just part of growing in such a small space I guess? It'll work, it's just going to need constant supervision and a whole lot more work than what a normal grow would.
 
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