Thought this was vertical..2000 watt

Thats great that the accidental seeds are doing well. Those plants on the bottom left look like they're getting really heavy. Do you think you're going to have a problem with bud sag? Have you thought about a scrog system for this? I noticed the string, seems like its working well. Just thinking outloud.

Great progress

CallmeTex said:

Thats great that the accidental seeds are doing well. Those plants on the bottom left look like they're getting really heavy. Do you think you're going to have a problem with bud sag? Have you thought about a scrog system for this? I noticed the string, seems like its working well. Just thinking outloud.

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Ya, the one on the bottom left has TONS of bud sites, and they are getting heavy. I have always tied my buds up for support... the one you are talking about in the pic is weird though.. in that pic it looks like it's curling towards the floor, but when you look at it - it hook sideways too like it's growing in a curve around the light..a pig's tail kinda. I just usually tie a slack sling in the nylon cord and then hit it with a couple of staples (usually into the ceiling - now into the tray above it..) but I am not against different ideas.. this is my first round (as I've said before) with vertical.. so I am sure there are a ton of ways to do this better and I'm open to hear about them.
I have thought about a screen.. but it seems like alot more work - and I like to make my set ups as little maintainence as I can - I'm a lazy stoner
I am thinking that the plants in the midlle row are the right size for my set up. They are all looking like 2 ounce plants and they are the perfect height to fill the wall without crouding, and they are growing really strong.. no need to support the weight of the bud (yet).

what is the benefit of vertical growing? i

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what is the benefit of vertical growing? i

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Youtube vertical hydroponics... its good for people with odd shaped rooms or small rooms. Use of less wattage in most cases. I'm in the process of building my room right now and those are the 2 main reason im doing it.

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plark said:

Youtube vertical hydroponics... its good for people with odd shaped rooms or small rooms. Use of less wattage in most cases. I'm in the process of building my room right now and those are the 2 main reason im doing it.

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That's a little misleading plark - It's not less wattage.. You are using the same wattage - but since you are growing around the bulb you have more growing square footage and can add more plants. More plants = more bud. More bud = happy cowell.
You're 2 main reasons for going vertical are because you have an odd shaped room and you want to use less wattage? I'd have to see your room to get what you're meaning I guess.. have a link to your room? - I'd be interested in seeing what you're working with.

cowell you said its hot in there ?? how hot?? im experiencing some higher temps into the hight 80's now. i really dont wanna buy a/c ever.. where i live we wont need it cept maybe 1 week outta the year...

ROCKS!! ABOUT THE HOUSE im jealous... m lady would love to not a have to deal with my shit at our house we live in.. its in order to get blown up eventually when we move, but we gotta move first... lmao

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cowell you said its hot in there ?? how hot?? im experiencing some higher temps into the hight 80's now. i really dont wanna buy a/c ever.. where i live we wont need it cept maybe 1 week outta the year...

ROCKS!! ABOUT THE HOUSE im jealous... m lady would love to not a have to deal with my shit at our house we live in.. its in order to get blown up eventually when we move, but we gotta move first... lmao

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Has gotten up to 105... usually mid 90's though. Only way to get heat into 70's is to open the tent and vent into the main house. Not really an option to have the house stink to high hell. I used to run my lights through a cool tube and the 6" vortex was enough to cool the room and provide decent exhaust... now that I'm going bare bulb, it's totally inadequate for the size I'm doing and the amount of air I should move to properly cool... BUT - I'll dump a zip and buy a new fan/filter combo (8 or 10 is where I'm stuck right now) once I chop in a few weeks.

You're telling me it rocks about the new crib. I have big plans that I can actually do now. That will open a whole new can of playing though. I'll have 4 identical set ups to test shit out with... sounds like it'll get expensive, but then again the wife won't see me bringing in the boxes from the new toys - co2, new tables,new fans, new lights, hydrotron, reses, etc.. So it may be for the best anyway.

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in a nutshell, this:



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congrats on the house, cowell, can't wait to see what all you get up to in your 4 tents..... <3

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in a nutshell, this:

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congrats on the house, cowell, can't wait to see what all you get up to in your 4 tents..... <3

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I like the pic... it really does say a thousand words.

Thank you - BTW... it's really only going to be an apartment I just like to talk the talk....
Something tells me once I get all 4 set ups going there will be 5 tents in the house though

I'll likely do alot more playing once they are dialed in... that may take me a bit. New set up again, constantly upgrading, will be hard to maintain levels... from a BIG girl grower stand point - what are some pieces of equipment I should add to my list of "should have"s?

makes me feel much better about the 70 babies going in this week.. =) i hooked up those other 600's its gonna be rad... but i wont get new pics up till after i take my lady on vacation for her birthday.. i have one from my cell... its not vert.. but itll still grow like a mutha... its now 2200 in a 8x8 room

The thing to remember is that pot will grow under all kinds of conditions... it's a weed. Try and kill it and you won't... lol.
You just want to aim for the "optimum" condtions to maximize your yeild. If it's a little hot - you'll still be ok, just not as good as if the plants were grown in conditions it flourishes in. When I first started growing I thought that "optimum" meant "only way" - I've learned alot since then.

I can't wait to see your garden all lit up - take your girl out already and throw up some pics

im taking her to cambria for a couple days to get away, maybe go to hearst castle, i spread my gpas ashes up off 101 a couple years ago, gonna stop by that spot and put one up.. yeah i know the plants will handle more i guess im really glad that i am where am temperature wise.. i had borrowed a buddies lights one time and they put my temps up into the hundreds, my girl took care of them cause i was in jail for 45 days.. and literally she only watered them...lol still had some smoke... but it was homeswag though lol its cool tho i gave her mad props for even doing it...i have a 6 inch vortex too and that thing kicks ass im sorta suprised its pulling thru the 3 hoods and carbon filter i really need to get in there and clean my hoods the new to me ones i got for christmas were hella dusty..

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I like the pic... it really does say a thousand words.

Thank you - BTW... it's really only going to be an apartment I just like to talk the talk....
Something tells me once I get all 4 set ups going there will be 5 tents in the house though

I'll likely do alot more playing once they are dialed in... that may take me a bit. New set up again, constantly upgrading, will be hard to maintain levels... from a BIG girl grower stand point - what are some pieces of equipment I should add to my list of "should have"s?

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what do you already have on your list of "should have"s?
if you're already having heat issues, you may want to look into an a/c.....

and are you planning on running a similar vert scrog in your new place, or did you have something else in mind?

owwwww - Hearst Castle... swank (had to google it - not from Cali - but swank non the less).

The only thing I have found with higher temps is your bud is a little more fluffy... but I am playing with the flowering hours and dropping to 10/14 is supposed to make your buds more resinous, finish faster, and your nugs will be alot more dense. This is coming from a RIU buddy - who's got a few houses going - that I go to for advice from time to time. I'll see if I can get him to chime in on what the change in hours does, in case there's more people following this thread than I know.

So far I am getting bigger than normal, frosty buds. I attest this to the bare bulbs for now.. but will be checking trichs tonight (for week 6 update) but by his estimation I should be seeing moslty milky, with a few amber and a few clear. I'll update that tonight.

My vortex is really good too - totally did the job in the last set up.. even now, I have neg pressure and no smell problems.. just not moving enough air to keep things cool as they should be. And while I don't get too worked up about stuff that isn't perfect - I do upgrade when I can afford to.

I'll see if I can get that guy to chime in about the hours of light so you can get it from the source....

that's 10light/14dark, right? makes sense. i really want to try that now. i just so happen to have an empty veg area i could stick a couple of girls in for the time being.
brilliant.

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what do you already have on your list of "should have"s?
if you're already having heat issues, you may want to look into an a/c.....

and are you planning on running a similar vert scrog in your new place, or did you have something else in mind?

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Only thing I have my heart set on other than bigger exhaust fans- is c02. Likely need a control unit for it too....
RO water
and a flip flop box.
Other than that, I haven't really came across too much I NEED.

Like I said, I think the heat issue is related to the exhaust fan I have. But if I need AC I'll pick it up for sure.

I was thinking more in terms of brands of controllers that you can count on, or something I may not be forseeing... like rain barrels.. just thought of that now, for holding water and stuff.

I am going to go with something very similar to this at the new place... I think I will close in all 4 walls and work from the rear... lol.. nevermind.. too early for jokes.
I will likely go this route for a bit until I can get myself into a house thats my own, and may set up larger plants with vert bulb (more like your set up).. but I really like this for now.

our controller is by grozone, thermostat by..... i wanna say canarm? i think grozone actually makes a "climate control" unit that does both. we have both green air and blueox co2 gens.... i think blue ox are more common and therefore easier to gets parts/service. (at least that's proved true in our experience.)

and yes. rain barrels are good. i like the 35gals for smaller spaces.

yeah, don't mind me, i have a phobia of excessive heat because of the bug factor around here. <--next to a forest, in an agri-zone. not a good combo with 80+ temps, might as well be providing superpests with a breeding ground fuckers.

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that's 10light/14dark, right? makes sense. i really want to try that now. i just so happen to have an empty veg area i could stick a couple of girls in for the time being.
brilliant.

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Yup you got it. Last 3 weeks are when he suggested dropping the light hours. He claimed it will knock a week off harvest time. like I said, I'll check my trichs tonight, and if they area mostly cloudy with a few ambers.. I'll hit it with final flush and chop next week.. if they are mostly clear with a few milky ones.. I'll wait the 8.

allright cowl here is what I have expierenced with the 10/ 14 of light. I finish quicker meaning my trichs are cloudy and amber a week or more sooner. thats really the only reason why I do it cause I finish quicker. and I yielded more not sure why wbut I did. I think the trick is not to cut the lights back to early and to late will do nothing. I like to do it for about 3 weeks. and yeah I have been staying out of trouble im looking for a job before i start another grow op just got my 5 mothers going.

Thanks for chiming in man....

You are getting 10 hours of light in late October early November in my neck of the woods.. we all know Mj is a photoperiod plant.. possibly the reduced hours are forcing the plant to finish flowering faster. Quite possible.. 3 weeks of photocycle change is enough to dictate the plants phase I would think. I'd be interested to know more on if that's what's happening.
3 weeks 24/0 and you can have a plant that is re-vegging. 3 weeks 12/12 and you have bud forming and the initial stretch done. maybe 3 weeks 10/14 force the bud into it's final phase of life before turning hermie. Makes sence to me - if my reasoning is accurate... but I'm a week into it now and don't see any harm from it. As I said, my buds are the biggest they have ever been.. if it's just from the bare bulb and vertical set up, then I'm still saving a few hours hydro a night - but if they do finish quicker for me, I'm getting an extra harvest a year.. well worth the risk on one crop to try it out on your say-so alone if you ask me.

EDIT: check trichs and have mostly milky, a few clear, no amber so far.