Third Grow: Skywalker, OG, and Powerskunk

(11/20)(8:06pm)

The plants are out of control, they are growing so much! Everything is going great, so well in fact that if it wasn't for thanksgiving next week I would probably start flowering them, but I just have to much to do. I decided that I am going to change out all of the neoprene sleeves to bigger ones and remove the white covers. Also, the three Ak-47's have all lost their shells and are above the surface, I'm just giving them just a little plain water when the cubes look dry(about once every 6 hours).

Stats for the day:

24 Clone Setup:
15 gallons of water/25 gallon rez (pump timer is set to 1 minute ON and 5 minutes OFF)
PH- was at 8.5, brought it down to 5.8
Nutrients - 1.1ml per gallon of H&G's Roots Excelurator (for the first 5 weeks), 6.5ml per gallon of H&G's Aqua Flakes A&B (for week 4), 5ml per gallon of Botanicare Cal-Mag plus(every week)
PPM- 857
Temperature - Air 74.8 degrees F, water 73 degrees
RH- 48%

6 Mother Clone Setup:
15 gallons of water/25 gallon rez (pump timer is set to 1 minute ON and 5 minutes OFF)
PH- was at 8.3, brought it down to 5.8
Nutrients - 1.1ml per gallon of H&G's Roots Excelurator (for the first 5 weeks), 6.5ml per gallon of H&G's Aqua Flakes A&B (for week 3)
PPM- 843
Temperature - Air 79.3 degrees F, water 75 degrees
RH- 49%


Pictures:







New Sleeves:











K well that's it for now, I'll update again on saturday.

Hey guys, so I have been reading up on phenotypes and after observing my plants I realized something.

When I took the the 24 clones, I took the skywalker from two different moms. What I didn't notice then is that one of them is much more of a sativa phenotype than the other, judging by the leaf structure. It is much more obvious now, since reading up on phenotypes, that some of the skywalker clones are much more sativa looking compared to the other regular ones. Skywalker is supposed to be a 100% indica, so all around the leaves should all be the same looking with an indica structure, wide pedals that are stuby looking. This is what is interesting, the skywalker should all look the same, but I guess that one seed's genetics (that the sativa pheno clones were from) slipped towards the sativa side with some of its characteristics. All I can see right now is that the leaf structure is definitively different in some of the skywalkers, but I don't really know if I will end up with two different types of skywalker bud, we will just have to wait and see. Thankfully when I took the two clones for the skywalker moms for next time, I happened to grab one sativa phenotype out of the two! I'm really anxious to see the difference in the bud this time around between the two different phenotypes, and am so thankful I ended up with a mom for each phenotype for next time if there ends up being a difference.


Skywalker regular indica leaf structure:

Skywalker sativa phenotype leaf structure:

They are the same strain, skywalker, but as you can see the structure of the second leaf has skinnier/longer pedals (sativa characteristics) compared to the one up above with definitive wider pedals that are short and stuby (indica characteristics). I can't take pictures of every leaf, but the difference is that noticable with all of the leaves. One of the mothers is definitively more sativa looking, and if you didn't know that where the same strain they could almost pass of for being different strains all together. As to how the bud will turn out though, and how much of a difference there is...we will have to wait and see. If there is a difference I hope to be able to tell the difference in the fade but the same blueberry aroma and taste all around, I'm stoked!

Skywalker is a hybrid of a 100% indica blueberry and a 100% indica mazar... Interesting difference though... give it time and see if those widen up... My SFV OG mother is a heavily indica dominant plant, and for some reason it's leaves don't widen up until about a two or three weeks into the development of the leaf.

either way... skywalker is INCREDIBLE.

GrowTech said:

Skywalker is a hybrid of a 100% indica blueberry and a 100% indica mazar... Interesting difference though... give it time and see if those widen up... My SFV OG mother is a heavily indica dominant plant, and for some reason it's leaves don't widen up until about a two or three weeks into the development of the leaf.

either way... skywalker is INCREDIBLE.

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Heh, for sure, but the plants are about 3 months old total, and about 1 month old since I cloned them from the original plants. They are well into the veg cycle and quite large, and like I said this difference between the leaves isn't just with the pair I photographed, it's everywhere. At this point I don't think the leaf structure is going to change much. Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure it has been like this the whole time, I just never thought anything of it because I didn't know anything about phenotypes lol. I mean I knew they were the same strain cause I started them both from seed, so I figured they were the same. And yes the leaf structures only differ by about 15-20%, but it is noticeable. I think we agree on the fact that it might not change how the bud turns out, but I am excited to wait and see if it does.

(11/22)(7:34)


Whats up guys, have a few things to mention with the 24 clones. Yesterday I went to go change out all of the neopreene sleeves to the bigger ones and I noticed that the clones have grown so much that the bottom of the netcups were literally choking them. I am sure this has been affecting their growth and to be honest I never expected this to be a problem, but luckily I caught the problem before it got even worse. I raised the light about 4 inches cause the plants were getting a little too close. I also flipped the lid around so that the bigger plants are towards the front and the smaller ones in back.

Stats for today:

24 Clone Setup:
15 gallons of water/25 gallon rez (pump timer is set to 1 minute ON and 5 minutes OFF)
PH- was at 7.3, brought it down to 5.8
Nutrients - 1.1ml per gallon of H&G's Roots Excelurator (for the first 5 weeks), 7ml per gallon of H&G's Aqua Flakes A&B (for week 2 of veg), 7ml per gallon of Botanicare Cal-Mag plus(every week)
PPM- 894
Temperature - Air 71.2 degrees F, water 73 degrees
RH- 48%

6 Mother Clone Setup:
15 gallons of water/25 gallon rez (pump timer is set to 1 minute ON and 5 minutes OFF)
PH- was at 7.4, brought it down to 5.8
Nutrients - 1.1ml per gallon of H&G's Roots Excelurator (for the first 5 weeks), 7ml per gallon of H&G's Aqua Flakes A&B (for week 2 of veg)
PPM- 823
Temperature - Air 75.4 degrees F, water 73 degrees
RH- 52%

Pictures:

i see stretched out seedlings,get yr light closer

floydfanx6 said:

i see stretched out seedlings,get yr light closer

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Yes I would agree, the light was around 2 feet away at first, then I moved it closer as seen in the pics. I just transplanted them into cups yesterday and burried the stock so it's just the tip popping out. I plan on doing it when I transplant them into the 2.5 gallon buckets later too. Also I put the light as close as it could go yesterday too, if I were to put the light any closer they would burn (using a 100watt), so this will have to do. All the seeds I have started start like this I think maybe I should get a few smaller watt bulbs so that I could put them closer, less heat and all, instead of one big one.

I ended up taking the Ak-47's out of soil and built a sort of bubbleponics system today, just doesn't have airstones yet because the roots aren't going to reach the water for a while. With everything going on this next week I just won't be able to water them every day if they were to be in soil. This should make it easier all around anyways, so I'm happy with the change.

Pictures:



Sorry this one is so bright, but the camera died right after I took it heh...



Yeah....I know....this pictures blows lol. I will try and get some better ones with the log I post tomorrow. Talk to you guys then.

Just pop by to say hi =P

been a while since last update, hows you ladies doing?

PSKY said:

Just pop by to say hi =P

been a while since last update, hows you ladies doing?

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Really well actually, almost a week into flowering. I will post some pics tonight, and will show the harvest later on, but I don't think I'm going to continue with the journal because I just have to much stuff going on. If anyone ever wants an update though, just say so and I will try and post some progress.

Damios said:

Really well actually, almost a week into flowering. I will post some pics tonight, and will show the harvest later on, but I don't think I'm going to continue with the journal because I just have to much stuff going on. If anyone ever wants an update though, just say so and I will try and post some progress.

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Great looking grow! Please keep giving us *some* type of update. A picture here and there maybe. I'm getting ready to build the Stinkbud system so I'm especially interested in the mods you make here and there.

Thanks.

Hey guys, here is sort of an update.

I moved the 24 plants to the flowering room, got rid of 4 so i only had 15 Skywalker, 3 OG, and 2 Powerskunk. I took 24 new clones from the mom's to make up 17 OGs, 4 Skywalker, and 3 Powerskunk. I am currently just giving the new clones 1.1ml of the Root Excelurator and setting the PH to 5.8. The plants in flowering are getting 9ml per gl of Aqua flakes A+B, 3.8ml per gl of Multizyme, 15ml per gl of Sweet, and 7ml per gl of Cal-Mag plus. This brings the ppm to around 1460 or so. Going to be flowering for 9 weeks and it is currently the start of the second week today.

Pictures:

2 1000watt hps lights w/ sun system cooled reflectors used with a 454cfm fan, 20 site aeroponic system with a 25 gallon rez. A 20lb Co2 tank set to 4 times on during the light cycle for 30 minutes each at a .5cfm flow rate. Temps are kept between 77 to 82 degrees, the smaller margin of temperature during the day and the closer together your nodes will be, using a 800watt portable air-conditioner. The ballasts are also sitting on a wooden table with two fans on them to keep them from getting too hot, it works great they never get over 80 degrees.





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The temps in the flowering rez can get a little high some times so I putting an extra rez in the closet where it is cooler and I'm going to hook it up to be the refill water for when the flowering rez gets low. I got a few things that will help me regulate the PH and the water level. First off I noticed that my PH goes over 7.0 (from 5. in just over two hours so unless I were to go in there every two hours and adjust the PH then otherwise I need a PH controller/doser. So I purchased this:



SH doesn't have good products, the only thing I really need is the PH controller, I will probably scrap the shitty bucket (get a better one) and other stuff, I might keep that diffuser thing though. I just need the controller to turn on a pump when ever my PH is getting too high to return more PH down liquid to the rez.

Then I got this to turn on a pump in the extra rez to return water to my flowering rez when it gets low.

So its day 10 of flowering and the plants are doing very well. All of them have their first noticable bud formation. The PH is 5.6 and the ppms are around 1270. I will update again in a few days when my new stuff gets all hooked up.

Pictures:

The tall one is powerskunk with its sister on the opposite side from her, 8 skywalkers in the back and 7 in the front, then the Ogs are in the middle in between the front skywalkers and the powerskunk.




These pictures are of two of the skywalkers, they all took really well to the FIM technique. Though 2 or 3 of them reverted back to normal after branching out for a week or so, either way it helped cut down on height and definitely will increase the yield for this strain.

Looking good! Some fancy controllers there too.

how was skywalker. its pretty expensive and i am curious. thank you

haha i thought the grow was done.

Kief Chief said:

haha i thought the grow was done.

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lol.........I WISH.

your setup makes me dr00l

getwrecked said:

your setup makes me dr00l

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Haha thanks...don't drool on your keyboard...