The truth about minimum wage and income inequality

UncleBuck

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pretending that government does ANYTHING real by their own labour or capital is as ridiculous as claiming the corporate board of directors of GM actually makes cars.
considering that the people consent to taxation by signing forms voluntarily, i would say that makes it their money/capital at that point.

well ok, not you maybe, but the rest of us.
it's funny because my taxes are the most documented of anyone on this board.
 

Dr Kynes

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considering that the people consent to taxation by signing forms voluntarily, i would say that makes it their money/capital at that point.
yes. we consent, based on the assumption that they will use the resources we give them wisely, but they RECEIVE those monies, they do not earn those monies, nor do they create anything without OUR capital to pay US to do the work.

your claims may make sense when i see charlie rangel or harry reid up on a scaffold with a welding torch, or hanging drywall.



it's funny because my taxes are the most documented of anyone on this board.
but do you declare the monies you earn selling weed? which is of course a noble profession.

the IRS is pretty adamant that you must declare and be taxed on every dime you receive, even through illegal enterprises.
 

Canna Sylvan

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You posted an edited single pay stub, now all of a sudden it's tax documentation.

Whatever you say Jesus, I don't have Caesar cock sucking syndrome. And please remember to mention I'm not to be forgiven when you ask.
 

Canna Sylvan

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yes. we consent, based on the assumption that they will use the resources we give them wisely, but they RECEIVE those monies, they do not earn those monies, nor do they create anything without OUR capital to pay US to do the work.

your claims may make sense when i see charlie rangel or harry reid up on a scaffold with a welding torch, or hanging drywall.





but do you declare the monies you earn selling weed? which is of course a noble profession.

the IRS is pretty adamant that you must declare and be taxed on every dime you receive, even through illegal enterprises.
He's a Rasta priest. That way he can declare himself a 501(c). His members have confidence their donations to his religion are tax deductible. In exchange he mustn't express any views which go against current political policy.
 

UncleBuck

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yes. we consent, based on the assumption that they will use the resources we give them wisely, but they RECEIVE those monies, they do not earn those monies, nor do they create anything without OUR capital to pay US to do the work.

your claims may make sense when i see charlie rangel or harry reid up on a scaffold with a welding torch, or hanging drywall.
the receive the money, so it's their money. their capital.

no private enterprise put down the capital for the hoover dam or the california aqueduct, the government did. no private enterprise had contractors bid on building the hoover dam or the california aqueduct, the government did.

but unless there's a comical image of mitch mcconnell building a turtle trail for himself, no dice according to miss kynes.



but do you declare the monies you earn selling weed? which is of course a noble profession.

the IRS is pretty adamant that you must declare and be taxed on every dime you receive, even through illegal enterprises.
check ORS475. i'm not allowed to make money, just to break even.

do you declare your christmas presents?
 

UncleBuck

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You posted an edited single pay stub, now all of a sudden it's tax documentation.

Whatever you say Jesus, I don't have Caesar cock sucking syndrome. And please remember to mention I'm not to be forgiven when you ask.
i also posted my entire 2011 state return and others as well.

sill racist rabbit.
 

Dr Kynes

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the receive the money, so it's their money. their capital.

no private enterprise put down the capital for the hoover dam or the california aqueduct, the government did. no private enterprise had contractors bid on building the hoover dam or the california aqueduct, the government did.

but unless there's a comical image of mitch mcconnell building a turtle trail for himself, no dice according to miss kynes.
until the government cn take our capital, and do soemthing that at least breaks even, they are consuming our capital. even if the return on a project is not fiscally quantifiable, like the central canal, or the hoover dam, then government has acheived a beneft, but too much of what the government does is pure consumption. you always harp on things which provide benefits, both tangible and otherwise, but what about bridges to nowhere (and i mean REAL ones like the one in the high desert which connects to no roads whatsoever, and never has, racking up maintenance costs at ~$2oo,ooo per annum for 80 years with zero people served, and zero tonnes of cargo crossing it ) or ridiculous rooftop gardens in chicago, or $800k for african scrotum washing seminars, or tol bridges which were to have tolls only until the bonds were paid off, but 60 years later they are still maintained at taxpayers expense, and the tolls are siphoned off to private companies through sweetheart deals, or bombers the pentagon says they dont need, but get built anyway, etc etc etc...

many bridges, dams power plants, sewage systems, aqueducts, docks, ferries, roads, and other things you so glibly ascribe to government are in fact built and maintained by PRIVATE companies, or co-ops with no government help whatsoever.

and in the end even government sponsoed projects arent built or funded by government since they get all their funds from US.
because you see, THEY didnt build that, we did.





check ORS475. i'm not allowed to make money, just to break even.

do you declare your christmas presents?
IRS code does not require declaring of small in kind gifts, minor transactions, or even hobbies that make a gross income under $5k. if you make one dime over the set figure with your horticultural hobby you are required to declare it, but you can exempt any real verifiable expenses, just like any enterprise.

even pimps are expected to declare their income, as are gangsters and dope dealers. the al capone case comes to mind.
 

nontheist

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i also posted my entire 2011 state return and others as well.

sill racist rabbit.
HAHA Look I own Louisiana



It's not like you haven't been caught lying on just about everything you say or anything. I think it's safe to assume why posting blocked out forms doesn't give you any leeway in credibility since you have none.
 

nontheist

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the hoover dam didn't contract itself, nor did the california aqueduct. private industries didn't get together and decide to do it either.


the government created the california aqueduct and the hoover dam, and those projects now mean employment for millions and millions of people.

no, that's what you're trying to do.


if private industry didn't get together and decide we should make the hoover dam, and private citizens didn't*get together and decide we should make the hoover dam, then who did?


oh, i know. THE GOVERNMENT did. the government created the hoover dam. the government made the contracts and paid the dollars.


ditto the california aqueduct. the best part are the signs on the west side of the san joaquin valley calling it a "congress created dust bowl". it's not the fault of congress that they signed up last for the water that the government they bemoan made possible for them in the first place.


back to your normally scheduled indignant miss kynes rant.

racist rabbit swings and misses.


private citizens and businesses did not get together and just decide to build the hoover dam, the government did.


private citizens and businesses did not get together and just decide to build the california aqueduct, the government did.


deal with it, racist rabbit.

Look at him go. Man nothing compares to watching a retard with a mission. OBAMA DEMOCRATS GOOD THEY KINDA FIX WHAT DEY FUK UP WITH BUNCHA U MONEY DEY BUILD LOTS UB JOBS WE HAVE T2 FIRE FROM U LATER. IT NUTTIN LIKE LAST TIM WE SWER! I SELL PLANT TAK ME 14 HR TO TRIM 6OZ I ELITE.

Well at least the government has some support eh? Now if you want to blaze and have a good laugh here are some of jobs our government creates**. Giant mechanical squirrels and millions on morocco pottery.

Warning it's a 200 page PDF just to point out the completely retarded it don't even brush the surface.

http://www.coburn.senate.gov/public//index.cfm?a=Files.Serve&File_id=b7b23f66-2d60-4d5a-8bc5-8522c7e1a40e
 

ChesusRice

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Minimum wage jobs are stepping stones not career choices.
Not by the choice of those paying the salarys

Cheap wage employers want the most value for the minimum amount of capital. They would be more than happy paying a wage and working someone long enough to were they couldnt afford to quit nor have time to find another job. And if all employers in the same industry are paying the same. it means the race to the bottom can start.

Do I hear company town everytime some "libtardarian" talks of removing the minimum wage?

Yes i do
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
Not by the choice of those paying the salarys

Cheap wage employers want the most value for the minimum amount of capital. They would be more than happy paying a wage and working someone long enough to were they couldnt afford to quit nor have time to find another job. And if all employers in the same industry are paying the same. it means the race to the bottom can start.

Do I hear company town everytime some "libtardarian" talks of removing the minimum wage?

Yes i do
You seem to want to have a system where people automatically advance and get raises with no effort. People who put effort into their jobs will never make minimum wage except for a short time. It is obvious you have never been an employer.

The job market is a competitive place and somehow you seem to discount the ability of individuals to exceed and advance on their own without government intervention.
 

UncleBuck

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...the onset of a dept crisus...
dept crisus?

boy, you really just ooze the south out of your every retarded word.

tell me about japan's "dept" to GDP ratio and how it has crippled them.

lol, "dept crisus".

you really are dumber than a bag of clown cocks, kiddo.
 

GOD HERE

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Couldn't find the original thread that Keynes and the other teabaggers were bitching about this in, but just for the record here you go:

 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
You seem to want to have a system where people automatically advance and get raises with no effort. People who put effort into their jobs will never make minimum wage except for a short time. It is obvious you have never been an employer.

The job market is a competitive place and somehow you seem to discount the ability of individuals to exceed and advance on their own without government intervention.
fed had to step in with minimum wage because too many employers were abusing people..sweat shops and the like..so that's where we get FLSA (fair labor standards act) unfortunately, business owner's left to their own devices don't always do the right thing for their employee's..wait! did i just say employers don't always do the right thing for their employees? nah..can't be..rofl
 
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