The Real Truth about Rootbound and Transplanting

NietzscheKeen

NietzscheKeen

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I just wanted to express my surprise at my recently transplanted plants. I tped them with no problems except for one that was stuck to the pot... presumably from the molasses. I tore the root ball apart pretty well and was expecting some serious shock. A couple of days later and it has hit a growth spurt and out grown all the others by at least two inches on average.

I don't know if anyone recommends breaking up the root mass, but it seemed to do my plant well.
 
Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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I transplant once from the starter pot to a final 3 gallon pot, but the roots in any pot will eventually become root bound. I just give them the largest pot I can early and in the 3 months needed to finish the grow it has never really been a problem for me. That's life in indoor pot growing. (pun intended)
 
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thinn

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dopedeeii said:
Thinn that is a monster bro wats the yeild like off one of those
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Honestly I dont know, she got a little out of hand. She was being kept as a mother for a little over 5 months and just decided to rotate strains. She was planted nov 2nd so shes almost 6months. I was veggung her under 600w digilux halide 24/0 the past 4 weeks and she packed on the foliage, She pretty muched forced the room into flowering cause I couldnt allow her to get any bigger as i knew she would grow into the light.

So as far as yield goes, a plant has a genetic limit to how much flowers she can put out. I did finally stick 1000k watt bulb in when I flipped 2 wks ago. So im hoping to get a decent bit of off her.
 
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AHoleNotherLevel420

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thinn said:
Honestly I dont know, she got a little out of hand. She was being kept as a mother for a little over 5 months and just decided to rotate strains. She was planted nov 2nd so shes almost 6months. I was veggung her under 600w digilux halide 24/0 the past 4 weeks and she packed on the foliage, She pretty muched forced the room into flowering cause I couldnt allow her to get any bigger as i knew she would grow into the light.

So as far as yield goes, a plant has a genetic limit to how much flowers she can put out. I did finally stick 1000k watt bulb in when I flipped 2 wks ago. So im hoping to get a decent bit of off her.
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ummm don't wana be a dick but what do u mean a plant has a genetic limit.. ? id say the soil or pot size.. proper training or plant count .. amount of light and environmental controls and proper feeding are wat yield is !!.. not genetic limits.. theres a limit as to bud size and shit.. but if u veg a plant for 6 months. and train the fuck out of it .. ull get a way bigger yield then if not.
 
Macto

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QUESTION: Will affected yellowed leaves recover?! I put them to sleep, when they woke up 3 leaves had yellowed out of nowhere :(
 
Harrekin

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Macto said:
QUESTION: Will affected yellowed leaves recover?! I put them to sleep, when they woke up 3 leaves had yellowed out of nowhere :(
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No, no they won't.

The best you can do is mitigate further negative effects.

You using a High P low N food?

A balanced fert is far better.
 
Macto

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Thing is I'm waiting for this batch to finish brewing my nutes, only have 1 air pump, I have it ready, but pH is so low I apparently didn't brew it long enough even though shit bubbled like crazy. Using Earth Juice. Everyone says pH doesn't matter when it comes to organics but I still like to make sure I'm in the right range (6.3-6.5). Fuuuuuuu.. It's bad enough I was using FFOF, have mag deficiency everywhere till I corrected it, even then it's a fucking pain. Need to get better dirt next time. Do you have any recommendations by any chance? Something a bit cheaper would be nice, cause I dont think FFOF is worth the price lol.
 
BeastGrow

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Coco coir with gypsum (calcium) or lime, Epsom Salts(magnesium), and a 2 or 3 part fertilizer (grow, bloom, micro).

I like coco coir because it helps the flowers taste sweeter and i also like that it is reusable.

Learn to read the signs of your plant and give them the nutrients as needed otherwise follow nutrient directions.


Composted manure adds a good balance of nutrients... kind of like an all purpose feed. plus its only 2 bucks a cubic foot (whereas some of these soil brands are 10 bucks a cubic foot)
 
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Harrekin

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Macto said:
Thing is I'm waiting for this batch to finish brewing my nutes, only have 1 air pump, I have it ready, but pH is so low I apparently didn't brew it long enough even though shit bubbled like crazy. Using Earth Juice. Everyone says pH doesn't matter when it comes to organics but I still like to make sure I'm in the right range (6.3-6.5). Fuuuuuuu.. It's bad enough I was using FFOF, have mag deficiency everywhere till I corrected it, even then it's a fucking pain. Need to get better dirt next time. Do you have any recommendations by any chance? Something a bit cheaper would be nice, cause I dont think FFOF is worth the price lol.
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If you're one of those "organic heads" I can't help you.

If you want serious ferts, mix Canna Terra Vega and Flores in equal parts.

I use Canna Terra Professional soil, its the shit, enough nutes till veg, perlite and pH balanced.
 
hyroot

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Harrekin said:
No, no they won't.

The best you can do is mitigate further negative effects.

You using a High P low N food?

A balanced fert is far better.
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I disagree. I've seen yellow leaves turn green hundreds of times over the years. I just had one with iron defs in veg. .all top leaves were yellowing from the base of the leaf. After a few days and 2 folliar sprays of kelp. Every leaf became dark green. You don't want high p low n. You want low n, low p, slightly higher k. And balanced minerals of everything else. You want the same balance of nutes in veg and flower. Pk boosters are marketing hype. No on goes into the woods and gives plants more phos.
 
Harrekin

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hyroot said:
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I disagree. I've seen yellow leaves turn green hundreds of times over the years. I just had one with iron defs in veg. .all top leaves were yellowing from the base of the leaf. After a few days and 2 folliar sprays of kelp. Every leaf became dark green. You don't want high p low n. You want low n, low p, slightly higher k. And balanced minerals of everything else. You want the same balance of nutes in veg and flower. Pk boosters are marketing hype. No on goes into the woods and gives plants more phos.
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B=================D ~~~~~~~~~~~

Dont contradict me with your hippy crap, I know how to grow herb, Iv been doing it years.

My leaves dont yellow in the first place, so I dont need to correct it, but any that yellow from the bottom typically die regardless of corrective action.

Iron deficiencies in veg? And you claim to fert in a balanced way?
 
hyroot

hyroot

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Harrekin said:
B=================D ~~~~~~~~~~~

Dont contradict me with your hippy crap, I know how to grow herb, Iv been doing it years.

My leaves dont yellow in the first place, so I dont need to correct it, but any that yellow from the bottom typically die regardless of corrective action.

Iron deficiencies in veg? And you claim to fert in a balanced way?
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don't be mad because your wrong.
 
ibsippin

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Dude... I don't mean to shit on anyone but this guy was totally right... I have a plant that's 55 days old and only 8 inches tall. it was displaying that same exact sides affects that were explained in the thread. The curling leaves, the yellowish leaves even with proper watering and feeding schedule all that, so I checked for rootbound (new to growing, first time hearing of rootbound) and I had a shitload of roots sticking out from the bottom of the pot. I transplanted and a week later I can't stop this bitch from growing, it's out of control. I mean I could be wrong like I said I'm new to this. I haven't changed anything, the watering schedule is the same and so Is the food (1/4 recommended dose of general organics go box). Anyways I was starting to lose hope but this fixed the shit out of her so thanks.
 
Yodaweed

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Those plants you showed a picture of aren't root bound they look overwatered, I transplant out of cups that are way more root bound than that with no problems , its your growing techniques not root bound plants bro.
 
natro.hydro

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Yodaweed said:
Those plants you showed a picture of aren't root bound they look overwatered, I transplant out of cups that are way more root bound than that with no problems , its your growing techniques not root bound plants bro.
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If you are talking about the op, I bet the dude didn't even put in drainage holes in the milk gallon because I agree I have seen plants worse than that not displaying any of these symptoms. He doesn't even have roots spun around the side of the container, just a bunch of brown nasty roots... Having now grown a plant in a 16 oz. cup its whole life to harvest I know what a rootbound plant looks like, it isnt pretty but it wont die.
 
Yodaweed

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natro.hydro said:
If you are talking about the op, I bet the dude didn't even put in drainage holes in the milk gallon because I agree I have seen plants worse than that not displaying any of these symptoms. He doesn't even have roots spun around the side of the container, just a bunch of brown nasty roots... Having now grown a plant in a 16 oz. cup its whole life to harvest I know what a rootbound plant looks like, it isnt pretty but it wont die.
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Yup it just needs to be watered and given fertilizers more frequently.
 
TheChemist77

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just a question as i dont grow in soil, all hydro. but ive grown 3-4 ft plants in 4x4x2.5 inch rock wool cubes on ebb n flow tables, even 3x3 cubes, and roots dont come out cubes because the light would hit them...why doesnt a plant get rootbound in a 4x4 or 3x3 rock wool cube? im not talking dwc or any thing, just a cube no rocks or anything around it for root growth..had a 4x4 ebb n flow table w 25 4x4 cubes no rocks r anything else, grown start to finish..why dont plants get rootbound in rock wool cubes??
 
hyroot

hyroot

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TheChemist77 said:
just a question as i dont grow in soil, all hydro. but ive grown 3-4 ft plants in 4x4x2.5 inch rock wool cubes on ebb n flow tables, even 3x3 cubes, and roots dont come out cubes because the light would hit them...why doesnt a plant get rootbound in a 4x4 or 3x3 rock wool cube? im not talking dwc or any thing, just a cube no rocks or anything around it for root growth..had a 4x4 ebb n flow table w 25 4x4 cubes no rocks r anything else, grown start to finish..why dont plants get rootbound in rock wool cubes??
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a rockwool cube isn't bound by plastic or something not permeable. Like plants in fabric pots don't get root bound. As long the roots are exposed directly to air they will get air pruned and never become root bound.
 
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