Flaming Pie
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Bernie would be excellent on foreign relations. I dont agree with everything he wants but i would trust him on foreign policy.
The official Hillary Clinton will be our next president thread
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Flaming Pie
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Im not in denial about anything.
I am saying it is negligent and cruel for us to pull out when the common man had no means of defense for themselves.
You cant just say, we never should of been there!!!
Wrong or right, we WERE there. We DID destabalize the region by taking out sadaam and we DID screw the people over by leaving them defenseless.
Elwood Diggler
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ttystikk
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I keep seeing massive crowds for Mr Sanders, and no such equivalents for Mrs Clinton. The only sources telling us the race is over are those who are owned by interests vested in the outcome. There are indeed many of them.
ttystikk
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ChesusRice
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Clinton is saving her money for the general. She is attacking Trump Sanders is attacking her.
You want to Bern down the world and we will end up with Trump
4 in 10 Sanders voters in Kentucky plan on voting for Trump in the general
Thanks Naderista
ChesusRice
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Many of those Democrats, however, behave like Republicans, which helps explain why Donald Trump voters played a key role in putting Sanders over the top Tuesday.
A third of those who voted in West Virginia's Democratic primary say they plan to back Trump in November, according to NBC News exit polls. Sanders won those voters by a wide margin.
Related: NBC News Exit Poll Results Show White Evangelicals Voted for Trump
In fact, 39 percent of Sanders voters said they would vote for Trump over Sanders in the fall. For Clinton, nine percent of her voters say they plan to come out for Trump in the general election.
A third of those who voted in West Virginia's Democratic primary say they plan to back Trump in November, according to NBC News exit polls. Sanders won those voters by a wide margin.
Related: NBC News Exit Poll Results Show White Evangelicals Voted for Trump
In fact, 39 percent of Sanders voters said they would vote for Trump over Sanders in the fall. For Clinton, nine percent of her voters say they plan to come out for Trump in the general election.
Padawanbater2
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You don't get to blame Sanders supporters for a Trump presidency, you get to blame Hillary Clinton for being such a shitty candidate, she couldn't even get progressives in the supposedly progressive party to vote for her
ttystikk
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It's 'Sandernista'; I'm old enough to remember Ralph and he wasn't the right guy or the right time.
Times have changed and Mr Sanders has far more political experience than a lawyer who got famous by writing about used cars.
@Padawanbater2 has it exactly right; Shillary is a DINOsaur; Democrat In Name Only- with the reptilian ethics to match. You've yet to give an actual reason to vote FOR her, and no, BOOGEYMAN BOOGEYMAN CHUMP! isn't a reason; it's an attempt to use fear. You go be scared, I've got bigger fish to fry.
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Padawanbater2
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ttystikk
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Golly, why doesn't that sound like a ringing progressive endorsement?
BWAHAHAHA!
Flaming Pie
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Can you refute my post? Did i say anything false in it?
ttystikk
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If the situation could have been resolved by force of arms, it would have been long ago.
The only way to keep such quagmires from happening with suspicious regularity is to remove those responsible for these crimes from positions in power and influence, by the vote and by law.
Time to GTFO, and in the process bring our military industrial complex to heel.
Flaming Pie
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When we destroyed germany the first world war, if the allies had helped the civilians back on their feet, do you think hitler would of been able to gain sympathy?
We left germany to starve basically.
We left iraq defenseless with threats all around her. When we pulled out, isis came in and wrecked them so hard.
Isis rising to the level it did is our fault.
ttystikk
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She isn't speaking to you, pauper.
That's not an insult; she's very aware of her intended audience and what THEY want to hear. Since you don't provide enough money to help lubricate her political machine, you aren't part of her audience.
If that pisses you off, you're getting the picture!
Kasuti
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I hate to say it but the M.I.C. will never be made to do business like the rest of corporate America.
the other 6 are hoping everyone else will vote for them...
ttystikk
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They keep gaining adherents from around the world in large part BECAUSE of what the US politico-military establishment does in our name;
Blowback is unintended consequences of acovert operation that are suffered by the aggressor. To the civilians suffering the blowback of covert operations, the effect typically manifests itself as “random” acts ofpolitical violence without a discernible, direct cause; because the public—in whose name the intelligence agency acted—are unaware of the effected secret attacks that provoked revenge (counter-attack) against them.[1]
Google's peculiarly political version;
'the unintended adverse results of a political action or situation.
"this is the blowback from all those aggressive public health campaigns"'
Flaming Pie
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I understand we shouldnt of done it.
Problem is we did and we should clean up our messes.
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