The "OFFICIAL" cast your VOTE on PROP 19 thread

PROP 19 - tax and regulate cannabis in California

  • YES

    Votes: 152 66.1%

  • NO

    Votes: 78 33.9%
  • Total voters
    230
Dan Kone

Dan Kone

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UncleBuck said:
less than and greater than work different, percentage wise.

16 sq ft is 36% less than 25 sq ft (9/25 = .36)

25 sq ft is 56% greater than 16 sq ft (9/16 = .5625)

as a math major, i won't stand for erroneous math!

but all this is off the point....
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lol. stfu. you know what I was saying. I was a fine arts major. I get a free pass on mathematical phrasing.
 
potroast

potroast

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Ask all of the legal medical users who have been jailed. I'm one, and I'm voting YES.

Here's what DPA says about it, or you can check with NORML, ASA, MPP, and many other groups.


Dear friend,

We need to fight back.

 California's marijuana initiative, Proposition 19, would be the biggest drug law reform in U.S. history. But it's being threatened by opponents who are trotting out the same old drug war misinformation and scare tactics.

Tell the opponents of Proposition 19 that we won’t stand for their lies!

Prop. 19, which would make marijuana legal for adults in California, is a game changer. The special interests that benefit from the drug war know it, and are doing everything they can to scare voters away from reforming the state's failed marijuana laws.

Here are some of the outrageous statements the other side has already made:

 • "It's going to cause crime to go up. There will be more drug babies."
• "It gives inmates in our prisons and county jails the right to both possess and smoke marijuana while incarcerated."
• "Next Health Nightmare If Marijuana Legalization Takes Place? Killer Black Mold."

And unless we call them on their ridiculous claims, they’re just going to ratchet up the rhetoric as Election Day draws near. Let's show our opponents that the whole country is watching – and that their scare tactics aren’t fooling anybody!

Sincerely,

Stephen Gutwillig
State Director, California
Drug Policy Alliance
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Baja Rick

Baja Rick

Member
I've read this thread from the begining, and I'm of the mind that while prop 19 maybe vague and oddly worded in some parts. It is the best chance for marijuana law reforms so far.
Too bad that California gets to be the "decider" I beleave that if this were happening in a more even keel state like Michigan, or one of the other 11 states with MMJ. It would lend a lot more credibility to the whole movement.
I'm sorry but the rest of the country is pretty fed up with the crap that is exported from Cali, I know I am.
 
Dan Kone

Dan Kone

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Baja Rick said:
I've read this thread from the begining, and I'm of the mind that while prop 19 maybe vague and oddly worded in some parts. It is the best chance for marijuana law reforms so far.
Too bad that California gets to be the "decider" I beleave that if this were happening in a more even keel state like Michigan, or one of the other 11 states with MMJ. It would lend a lot more credibility to the whole movement.
I'm sorry but the rest of the country is pretty fed up with the crap that is exported from Cali, I know I am.
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Why you hating on Cali? I doubt any other state would have the votes to end prohibition first.
 
Baja Rick

Baja Rick

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I don't mean to really "hate" on Cali, I just think that many other people oin the nation are over run with news from Cali. Example; The fires lastnight in San Fran were a leading story on the local news station. While I don't mean to minimize the people who were involved, or thier suffering. It isn't a relitive story to me, in my life today.
Then you factor things like The 9th Circus, The Speaker of The House, and the ten dollar millionaires.
Many people are just numb to the name. They hear "Today in California Blah,,, Blah,,,, Blah...
You are probably right about the voters but, then again I think there are more states east of the Missippi with MMJ than west.
It would be intresting to compare the populations of the 12 other states with MMJ to the population of Cali.
I'm thinking the numbers would still favor Cali. I just think it would lend more weight to the issue if it weren't lost with all the other info we get on California
 
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fdd2blk

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Baja Rick said:
I don't mean to really "hate" on Cali, I just think that many other people oin the nation are over run with news from Cali. Example; The fires lastnight in San Fran were a leading story on the local news station. While I don't mean to minimize the people who were involved, or thier suffering. It isn't a relitive story to me, in my life today.
Then you factor things like The 9th Circus, The Speaker of The House, and the ten dollar millionaires.
Many people are just numb to the name. They hear "Today in California Blah,,, Blah,,,, Blah...
You are probably right about the voters but, then again I think there are more states east of the Missippi with MMJ than west.
It would be intresting to compare the populations of the 12 other states with MMJ to the population of Cali.
I'm thinking the numbers would still favor Cali. I just think it would lend more weight to the issue if it weren't lost with all the other info we get on California
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if i hear one more story about "trapped miners", ..... :wall:
 
medicineman

medicineman

New Member
fdd2blk said:
if i hear one more story about "trapped miners", ..... :wall:
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Or the stupid preacher set to burn the Koran. How much more non-news can we absorb before shooting our TVs? How about some real news, like how the repukes want to give the millionaires/billionaires a continued tax break that will set the deficit back a trillion bucks while ranting about the deficit, Oh the hypocracy. I could go on for hours about the repuke hypocracy but, that is boring shit anyway as nothing will change. The rich already have made up their minds, fuck the people, they want their tax breaks to continue, fuck the deficit, oh, unless they are deriding the dems about the deficit, then it's game on.
 
The Ruiner

The Ruiner

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I am voting "no" to keep our communities safer... because I don't trust the elements behind 19 at all, they are dangerous...
 
Dan Kone

Dan Kone

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Baja Rick said:
I don't mean to really "hate" on Cali, I just think that many other people oin the nation are over run with news from Cali. Example; The fires lastnight in San Fran were a leading story on the local news station. While I don't mean to minimize the people who were involved, or thier suffering. It isn't a relitive story to me, in my life today.
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That's just bad news. The news is usually bad, regardless of the location they are covering. CNN is based in ATL. Fox is in NYC. Can't blame Cali for that.

Then you factor things like The 9th Circus, The Speaker of The House, and the ten dollar millionaires.
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Nancy isn't so bad. She gets bad press, but the press is pretty bad it self.

You are probably right about the voters but, then again I think there are more states east of the Missippi with MMJ than west.
It would be intresting to compare the populations of the 12 other states with MMJ to the population of Cali.
I'm thinking the numbers would still favor Cali. I just think it would lend more weight to the issue if it weren't lost with all the other info we get on California
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Sure, but it's not about total population. It's about polling. Legalization polls higher in Cali than anywhere else as far as I know.
 
Baja Rick

Baja Rick

Member
I found this on the web. I only posted it because it seemed to reflect the same information this poll is reflecting on numbers against and numbers in favor
http://people-press.org/report/602/marijuana
I wish it would show a break down of states and how the people polled answered by state.
Are the legalization polls in Cali higher than 73%?
 
Hayduke

Hayduke

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rucca

rucca

Active Member
Maybe I'm paranoid, but I don't trust Prop 19 either - seems like everyone in Cali that really wants/needs medical status gets it. So you are straight as is without the risk of a shady legalization prop
 
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fdd2blk

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medicineman said:
Or the stupid preacher set to burn the Koran. How much more non-news can we absorb before shooting our TVs? How about some real news, like how the repukes want to give the millionaires/billionaires a continued tax break that will set the deficit back a trillion bucks while ranting about the deficit, Oh the hypocracy. I could go on for hours about the repuke hypocracy but, that is boring shit anyway as nothing will change. The rich already have made up their minds, fuck the people, they want their tax breaks to continue, fuck the deficit, oh, unless they are deriding the dems about the deficit, then it's game on.
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at least lindsay got out of rehab. ;)
 
Baja Rick

Baja Rick

Member
The tax cuts will be renewed, All this hoopla is just noise. The President can't afford allow them to expire.
I agree that the The rich will benifit the most, but when was the last time you got a job from a guy who was broke?
My point here is this, People who have no money management skills, will not have money very long. That is why you see so many people win the lottery, then 3 years later they're broke again.
Here's a challenge, Name ten people off the top of your head who have a net worth over 10 million who are not involved in sports or entertainment.
 
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