The Junk Drawer

Lucky Luke

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Did you find the argument convincing?
Yes!
I've been learning to sail the last 2 to 3 years for a reason.
But I'm held back by the wife who needs a land base. So ill be selling and downsizing the house in 2 to 3 years when its paid off and buying two or maybe even stretch to three with a bit of luck, a fair breeze and a small mortgage with the proceeds. Use one as our PPR and rent the other/s out for sailing income.
Well that's the plan ATM but subject to change.

Did you?
 
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Lucky Luke

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"Former staff have lashed the US Department of the Interior for failing to predict that a 2017 decision to lift oversight from a $59m trust fund for Pacific Islanders displaced by American nuclear testing would lead to the fund’s exhaustion through mismanagement and alleged fraud. "

"The US government established the fund in the 1980s to support displaced residents of Bikini Atoll, a small reef in the Pacific nation of the Marshall Islands which the US left uninhabitable after it tested 23 nuclear weapons there between 1946 and 1958."
 

HGCC

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Yes!
I've been learning to sail the last 2 to 3 years for a reason.
But I'm held back by the wife who needs a land base. So ill be selling and downsizing the house in 2 to 3 years when its paid off and buying two or maybe even stretch to three with a bit of luck, a fair breeze and a small mortgage with the proceeds. Use one as our PPR and rent the other/s out for sailing income.
Well that's the plan ATM but subject to change.

Did you?
Not that plan, but lol, my dad got that sailing itch and was super into it for a solid 30 years or so until he got a bit too old and had a hard time hopping onto the dock.

None of the points chatgpt made seemed very solid to me. Like...yeah...a boat could be cheaper than a house...but what house? Marinas are expensive, particularly if you want any sort of amenities like a shower or power hookup, would be curious what they are looking at, like yeah a "marina" on a shit lake where you tie up a pontoon boat is cheap but not a place where you would dock a sailboat.

It's a fine plan for retirement, I just didn't think the AI made a good or even remotely convincing argument.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Not that plan, but lol, my dad got that sailing itch and was super into it for a solid 30 years or so until he got a bit too old and had a hard time hopping onto the dock.

None of the points chatgpt made seemed very solid to me. Like...yeah...a boat could be cheaper than a house...but what house? Marinas are expensive, particularly if you want any sort of amenities like a shower or power hookup, would be curious what they are looking at, like yeah a "marina" on a shit lake where you tie up a pontoon boat is cheap but not a place where you would dock a sailboat.

It's a fine plan for retirement, I just didn't think the AI made a good or even remotely convincing argument.
The part that floored me was the machine selling “the need to learn boat maintenance” and other promises of backbreaking work as a feature. Thing’s gonna be selling used cars next.
 

HGCC

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In all fairness to our robot overlords...the prompt it was given was to write up an argument for something. If whatever is a bad idea, the AI is still going to try and write what you asked...but will have bad arguments.

I asked it to convince me covid vaccines were a scam as an example...and these are more convincing than what showed up for living on a boat:


Arguments Against COVID Vaccines

User

Write me a convincing argument against covid vaccines



As an AI language model, I can provide you with an argument against COVID vaccines, but I want to emphasize that this argument does not reflect the scientific consensus or my own views. The overwhelming majority of scientific evidence supports the safety and efficacy of COVID vaccines. Nonetheless, here is a potential argument against COVID vaccines:
  1. Long-term effects: Critics of COVID vaccines argue that since the vaccines were developed and tested in a relatively short period of time, the long-term effects are not yet fully understood. They raise concerns about potential unknown side effects that may emerge after months or years of vaccination.
  2. Vaccine development speed: Another argument against COVID vaccines revolves around the speed of their development. Critics claim that the vaccines were created too quickly, suggesting that proper research and testing may have been compromised, which could undermine their safety and effectiveness.
  3. Limited clinical trials: Skeptics of COVID vaccines may highlight the limited duration and sample size of clinical trials. They argue that the trials might not have been extensive enough to capture rare side effects or thoroughly evaluate the vaccines' effectiveness across diverse populations.
  4. Adverse reactions: Critics often point out the reported cases of adverse reactions to COVID vaccines. While these cases are relatively rare, opponents argue that even a small percentage of severe reactions should be a cause for concern, especially considering the large number of people receiving the vaccine.
  5. Natural immunity: Some individuals argue that natural immunity acquired from previous COVID-19 infection is sufficient protection against the virus, making vaccination unnecessary. They suggest that those who have already recovered from the virus may have stronger and longer-lasting immunity compared to those who receive the vaccine.
It is important to note that these arguments are not supported by scientific consensus or empirical evidence. The overwhelming majority of health experts, scientists, and regulatory authorities worldwide strongly endorse COVID vaccines as safe and effective in preventing severe illness, hospitalization, and death caused by COVID-19. Vaccination remains the most effective strategy to protect oneself and others from the virus and contribute to ending the pandemic.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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In all fairness to our robot overlords...the prompt it was given was to write up an argument for something. If whatever is a bad idea, the AI is still going to try and write what you asked...but will have bad arguments.

I asked it to convince me covid vaccines were a scam as an example...and these are more convincing than what showed up for living on a boat:


Arguments Against COVID Vaccines
User

Write me a convincing argument against covid vaccines



As an AI language model, I can provide you with an argument against COVID vaccines, but I want to emphasize that this argument does not reflect the scientific consensus or my own views. The overwhelming majority of scientific evidence supports the safety and efficacy of COVID vaccines. Nonetheless, here is a potential argument against COVID vaccines:
  1. Long-term effects: Critics of COVID vaccines argue that since the vaccines were developed and tested in a relatively short period of time, the long-term effects are not yet fully understood. They raise concerns about potential unknown side effects that may emerge after months or years of vaccination.
  2. Vaccine development speed: Another argument against COVID vaccines revolves around the speed of their development. Critics claim that the vaccines were created too quickly, suggesting that proper research and testing may have been compromised, which could undermine their safety and effectiveness.
  3. Limited clinical trials: Skeptics of COVID vaccines may highlight the limited duration and sample size of clinical trials. They argue that the trials might not have been extensive enough to capture rare side effects or thoroughly evaluate the vaccines' effectiveness across diverse populations.
  4. Adverse reactions: Critics often point out the reported cases of adverse reactions to COVID vaccines. While these cases are relatively rare, opponents argue that even a small percentage of severe reactions should be a cause for concern, especially considering the large number of people receiving the vaccine.
  5. Natural immunity: Some individuals argue that natural immunity acquired from previous COVID-19 infection is sufficient protection against the virus, making vaccination unnecessary. They suggest that those who have already recovered from the virus may have stronger and longer-lasting immunity compared to those who receive the vaccine.
It is important to note that these arguments are not supported by scientific consensus or empirical evidence. The overwhelming majority of health experts, scientists, and regulatory authorities worldwide strongly endorse COVID vaccines as safe and effective in preventing severe illness, hospitalization, and death caused by COVID-19. Vaccination remains the most effective strategy to protect oneself and others from the virus and contribute to ending the pandemic.
That's not a very impressive list of reasons, every bullet point starts with "critics say" or "skeptics of covid may" ...Not one starts with "this study proves" or "experts agree" or "Evidence shows..."
 

Lucky Luke

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Not that plan, but lol, my dad got that sailing itch and was super into it for a solid 30 years or so until he got a bit too old and had a hard time hopping onto the dock.

None of the points chatgpt made seemed very solid to me. Like...yeah...a boat could be cheaper than a house...but what house? Marinas are expensive, particularly if you want any sort of amenities like a shower or power hookup, would be curious what they are looking at, like yeah a "marina" on a shit lake where you tie up a pontoon boat is cheap but not a place where you would dock a sailboat.

It's a fine plan for retirement, I just didn't think the AI made a good or even remotely convincing argument.
i agree that boats are expensive but most houses are cheaper than most boats and things are always braking on boats. I'm a skipper for two boats at the moment and I'm down at the club every few days doing something. We have a mild flood warning issued so ill be going down today to check ones secure and moving the other from a mooring ball to the dock- all in the rain! Marina prices vary widely my clubs one is fairly inexpensive and the mooring balls are dirt cheap at $25 a week, You can buy a mooring for around the $3k mark and get away with no rental fee. Anchoring is free of course. Even the visitor dock fees are not bad at $30 a night including power and water and showers and the laundry room are included. We don't have liveaboards here apart from one guy living on his boat on the hard as he slowly, very slowly fixes the old girl back up. Living on the hard is costing him $10 a day including power, water and showers.
If travelling on a boat then marina stays should be limited IMO. They are a bit like Caravan (trailer) parks otherwise with everyone living way to close together. I love being down the marinas though and walking the docks- so relaxing.
I'm much more into the salt water sailing than lake stuff.
Guess you need the sailing bug for it to convince you. You didn't get the bug sailing with your old man?

Something like this would do me fine. But maybe with a hard dodger.. https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/1992-catalina-34-8887519/.

I was booked as crew on one of these for an Ocean race late last year but the race was cancelled due to the port at the finish line being shut due to floods. Beautiful, luxuries boats, have a squiz at the interior.


 
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sicpuppy

Active Member
Did you ever feel like sharing something interesting, but you felt it wasn't worthy of a thread of its own or didn't fit the other threads?

I know I do, like every day actually
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So, I thought this could fit the ticket/work, a "Junk Drawer", a thread to toss stuff in that you think is cool/has merit.

Political stuff is nice but not absolutely necessary :)

So, until the mods pull it (I hope not :) ) just toss in some ideas, interesting news articles of any kind, good books/bad movies/music, etc

Basically anything your luvly hearts/corrupt minds desires :)

This is my 1st piece of junk.

It's very good but rather long, but I broke it up when I watched it.


They make good points as to why the Dems are getting shredded not only in the South but throughout the Midwestern states.
These communities feel/felt forgotten/abandoned by mostly everyone, especially the Dems & except for Donald J Trump they were alone.
And unfortunately, they were.
He heard them alright and brought his Carnival act with him to his rallies throughout the country.

And they loved it :)

What more can one ask for?

NOTHING!!!!

Corn dogs/fried butter/popcorn & a few Longhorns or PBA's & Trump, live & in person!

Heaven has come to Bum-Fuck :)

Believe it or not, they bonded with that Motherfucker from Queens, NY.

Figure that the fuck out.

Conman that he is, he saw the suckers flaying they're arms screaming Help Me & he answered & now we exist in this pile of shit left by Trump.

And that will be another legacy of Trump & that is turning the rural voter Republican

Fuck the Oath Keepers/Proud Boys. as far as a danger is concerned

They ain't shit, but millions of disaffected Dems in those Red states are/could be a problem

Combined with those Republican Trump freaks, they definitely are a force that badly needs attention

It's on the horizon & I'm glad it's being noticed now

I hope it's not too late.
i can never fully understand the American 2 party system, but i suppose uk is little different always conservative and labour, smaller party's win a few seats but that's it, i live in n Ireland again 2 party's dup and sin Fein funny that, its all money , money money money
 

Lucky Luke

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i can never fully understand the American 2 party system, but i suppose uk is little different always conservative and labour, smaller party's win a few seats but that's it, i live in n Ireland again 2 party's dup and sin Fein funny that, its all money , money money money
The difference is in the parties themselves. America doesn't have a left leaning party like the UK has. Its never had working mans parties like Labour.
 

Lucky Luke

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The former intelligence official David Grusch, who led analysis of unexplained anomalous phenomena (UAP) within a US Department of Defense agency, has alleged that the US has craft of non-human origin.

Information on these vehicles is being illegally withheld from Congress, Grusch told the Debrief. Grusch said when he turned over classified information about the vehicles to Congress he suffered retaliation from government officials. He left the government in April after a 14-year career in US intelligence.

Jonathan Grey, a current US intelligence official at the National Air and Space Intelligence Center (Nasic), confirmed the existence of “exotic materials” to the Debrief, adding: “We are not alone.”
 

Roger A. Shrubber

Well-Known Member
i can never fully understand the American 2 party system, but i suppose uk is little different always conservative and labour, smaller party's win a few seats but that's it, i live in n Ireland again 2 party's dup and sin Fein funny that, its all money , money money money
It is an odd situation here, there used to be more parties, but the two major ones coalesced way back in the 1790s, and have endured pretty unchanged ever since, with minor parties coming and going...but going more than coming.
We still have them today, but they barely got 2% of the vote between all of them in the last elections.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_the_United_States
 

sicpuppy

Active Member
I really believe it dose not matter who's in power, its always the lower working class pay, don't think it matters what country your in, human rights in n Ireland were really bad right up till 1990's even now minimum wage is only 10.50 per hour below living standard. now covid and food problems and fuel problems stemming from Ukraine are really straining things, but could be worse, could be in Ukraine, really really feel for the good people of Ukraine, have really thought of volunteering, actually have emailed there embassy to offer my services, am a builder, and I know they will need help rebuilding when they win, more than happy to help
 

Lucky Luke

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I really believe it dose not matter who's in power, its always the lower working class pay, don't think it matters what country your in, human rights in n Ireland were really bad right up till 1990's even now minimum wage is only 10.50 per hour below living standard. now covid and food problems and fuel problems stemming from Ukraine are really straining things, but could be worse, could be in Ukraine, really really feel for the good people of Ukraine, have really thought of volunteering, actually have emailed there embassy to offer my services, am a builder, and I know they will need help rebuilding when they win, more than happy to help
Will be a lot of money to be made in Ukraine when the wars over. Big, big money. If you know a few trades people I'd suggest forming a company and having your passports ready. Will be like the rebuilding of Germany and Japan all over again. You could work 3 to 5 years and retire a wealthy person.
 

sicpuppy

Active Member
Will be a lot of money to be made in Ukraine when the wars over. Big, big money. If you know a few trades people I'd suggest forming a company and having your passports ready. Will be like the rebuilding of Germany and Japan all over again. You could work 3 to 5 years and retire a wealthy person.
yip think your right, mate was out in saudi , for 5 years and smashed it semi retired now, he was a bricky,
 
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