The Judge Asks, Where is the OutRage?

purklize

Active Member
does it seem like the past few meaningless US conflicts have been nothing more than giant research and development campaigns? during which technology was used experimentally on friendly and combatant forces, resulting in millions of casualties. then ultimately being brought home and assimilated?


This is likely the real reason for the nukings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki - many have speculated that Japan was a defeated enemy, and they wanted to both intimidate the USSR (by showing they had the will to use such weapons) and to study their real world effects on a city.
 

abe supercro

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It's an intricate chess game. A lot of sacrifices have been made, that we never got the real full story, all in an attempt to stay on-top. The big picture can be terrifying.
 

Beagle

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[h=3]Ban on Arming Domestic Drones: Let’s Draw a Line in the Sand[/h] By Chris Calabrese, Legislative Counsel, ACLU Washington Legislative Office & Jay Stanley, Senior Policy Analyst, ACLU Speech, Privacy and Technology Project at 7:44am
Last week Rep. Rush Holt (D-NJ) and the House of Representatives drew an important line in the sand. Holt offered an amendment to the Department of Homeland Security Appropriations bill to bar any DHS funding for “the purchase, operation, or maintenance of armed unmanned aerial vehicles.” (The amendment was adopted and the bill has passed the House.) While moves to arm domestic drones are widely seen as beyond the pale and have not really been contemplated (with the exception of one sheriff in Texas who mused about mounting less-lethal weapons like rubber bullets on unmanned aircraft), we believe it’s crucial to get ahead of any possible trend.
We have unfortunately sometimes seen our overseas battlefields bleed across our own borders. As part of the debate over the National Defense Authorization Act and indefinite detention, for example, we already witnessed a willingness by Congress to move the battlefield in the war on terror into our own backyards. Importing weaponized drones to the domestic context would be the latest and arguably most extreme example of the militarization of our police. This trend, fueled in part by companies seeking domestic markets for weapons of war, has already led to many tragic abuses.
From their controversial deployment for targeted killings and other uses abroad, we know that armed drones are incredibly powerful and dangerous weapons. When domestic law enforcement officers can use force from a distance, it may become too easy for them to do so. When it becomes easier to do surveillance, surveillance is used more, and when it becomes easier to use force, force will be used more. We have seen this dynamic with “less lethal” weapons such as Tasers; since 2001, over 500 people in the United States have died after being tased, according to Amnesty International, and Tasers are often used in clearly unnecessary situations—for example, in retaliation against nonviolent people who have angered a police officer. Drones may also be more likely to result in harm to innocent bystanders.
As we have documented extensively, the most urgent threat that domestic drones pose at this time is as instruments of mass surveillance and other invasions of privacy. Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) has proposed legislation to address these concerns, and we agree that Fourth Amendment principles must certainly govern any domestic use of drones.
But we believe that support for the Holt Amendment sends a powerful message: armed drones have no place in America. We must not rush into embracing a dangerous new military technology.
Support the Hold Amendment here.
Source: http://www.aclu.org/blog/technology-and-liberty-free-speech-national-security/ban-arming-domestic-drones
 

Murfy

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[h=1]Taliban to ban polio vaccinations for children until US stops drone strikes-[/h]



A Taliban leader in Pakistan said that until the United States stops drone strikes—like the one that killed al-Qaida no. 2 Abu Yahya al-Libi earlier this month—it will ban polio vaccinations of Pakistani children in the region it controls.
"Polio drops will be banned in North Waziristan until the drones strikes are stopped," Taliban commander Hafiz Gul Bahadur said in a statement released Saturday and published Monday by CNN. "Almost every resident of North Waziristan has become a mental patient because of the drone strikes, which are worse than polio. On one hand, the U.S. spends millions of dollars to eliminate polio, while on the other hand it kills hundreds with the help of its slave, Pakistan."
UNICEF had been hoping to launch a drive this week to vaccinate 161,000 children in the region. Bahadur said he consulted with leaders of the Taliban and al-Qaida and with Punjabi leaders before making the decision to ban the vaccinations.
Pakistan's vaccination program came under scrutiny after a Pakistani doctor accused of helping the CIA locate Osama bin Laden in Abbottabad under the guise of the "door-to-door" program was sentenced to 33 years in prison for "acting against the state."
The announcement, the New York Times said, is "a blow to polio vaccination efforts in Pakistan, which is one of just three countries where the disease is still endemic and which accounted for 198 new cases last year—the highest rate in the world."
But it's doubtful that the warning will affect U.S. drone strikes. The White House has increased its drone operations under President Barack Obama. The Pakistani government has objected to the drone strikes, saying they are "a violation of Pakistan's sovereignty."
 

Murfy

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not sure-

maybe in here?

[video=youtube;YthJzHHAH_4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YthJzHHAH_4[/video]
 

ozzrokk

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I say if thats the case then double the drone strikes.....

Sounds like we got alot of them here in the states that could be easily deployed that way....bongsmilie
 

purklize

Active Member
They're going to deploy 30,000 drones inside our borders. For comparison, the USAF currently has about 18,000 aircraft, 7500 of which are drones. There will be one for every 10,000 people, so any major metropolitan area will have hundreds of drones.
 

Murfy

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the drones-

are the one comin HOME, guy.

you'll feel the same way once a few get "whacked" in us cities, under the guise terrorist.
 

FatMarty

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Even Charles Krauthammer is starting to get it - he did a pretty diatribe against about a month or so ago on Fox News political roundtable thing.
He is a hard Rightwing type in my humble; so it's refreshing to see at least some of those talking heads recognizing the dangers of drones watching Americans.

They did a survey the other day and said that Americans support drones in the US skies: as long as they are not used to control speeding!
The single most likely method to die prematurely is via vehicle accident!

We are so fucking brainwashed we collectively think they will only use them how we would like and that everyone but them and their friends are crooks!
I got news for them: I have never met a clean cop. Ever.
I have never met a clean neighbor. Ever.
I have never met a clean politician. Ever.
These dildos are setting themselves up in their zeal to feel safe from US!
US as in everyone but their little inner circle.

When the cops lived across the street at Momies house I watched them drunk drive daily.
The chick cop even shot a hole in my garage trying to get a raccoon when I first moved in here 20 some odd years ago.

The PA lives down the street and almost every weekend has a drunken get together.
Doesn't think I know, and turns away when I go by as if to hide the face.

I've watched pratically every single anti-M pol in OC over the past few years stumble from those drunkfests and drive home alone.
Maybe they won't show their faces because they think I will snitch them off; but it's probably just a manifestation of shame.
Those cocksuckers busted up my home raiding me a couple years before the MMMAct.
I got a videotape of them destroying shit for fun from the alarm system. I told them about it too. They thought cam was a motion sensor.
It is - a motion actived camera!
Now they must know I have a card, and it must eat at them beause they Know I am sick and they can't fuck with me.

When one on the cops creamed himself on the freeway I actually laughed out loud.
Disgusting behavior - I know - but that's what their brand of justice does to an otherwise law-abiding citizen - it becomes the SS Waffen and we become the Jews.
The Nazis were evil: they deserved their fate man.

The MMMAct tells them to back off and not harrass MM patients and their Caregivers:
yet they have spent over 3 years now doing everything they can to thrawt the will of the people they work for.
And these pindicks in OC have been the States most onerous and despicable in the methods they go about it.

And they have done every bit of it with the full knowlege that what they were doing is not only illegal - it is also immoral.
We damn sure don't want to give them the keys to a set of drones...don't be stupid people.
 
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