The journalistic obligation to fact

CatHedral

CatHedral

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One thing has me scratching my head.

We have several press organizations that have wholly embraced the pack of lies at the base of everything MAGA. They are knowingly and willingly propagating lies that are a clear and present danger to the integrity of the republic. They have over a hundred million people hanging onto their feed of poison. I believe (but have no legal education to say) that these activities are beyond the domain of the First Amendment.

it is my unqualified opinion that they are engaged in sustained and systematic treason, giving air to the lively insurrection state movement.

If these organizations are indeed operating beyond the law, why are they not being charged with Federal conspiracy? What am I missing? Our government should have both the capacity and the mandate to stop them and then fine them into the next century.

Im confused.
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nuskool89

nuskool89

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I always wonder why defamation suits arnt more common.

I take issue with “reporters” who knowingly publish false information, especially when they use “anonymous sources” which can literally spew anything. Once the article comes out and the headline is published, the damage is already done even if they come back with a correction later. As so many consume news via headlines and form their entire worldview based off the first paragraph.

There are four elements a person must establish in order to prove he or she has been defamed:
  • Publication,
  • Identification,
  • Harm and
  • Fault
 
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schuylaar

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CatHedral said:
One thing has me scratching my head.

We have several press organizations that have wholly embraced the pack of lies at the base of everything MAGA. They are knowingly and willingly propagating lies that are a clear and present danger to the integrity of the republic. They have over a hundred million people hanging onto their feed of poison. I believe (but have no legal education to say) that these activities are beyond the domain of the First Amendment.

it is my unqualified opinion that they are engaged in sustained and systematic treason, giving air to the lively insurrection state movement.

If these organizations are indeed operating beyond the law, why are they not being charged with Federal conspiracy? What am I missing? Our government should have both the capacity and the mandate to stop them and then fine them into the next century.

Im confused.
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we all are.
 
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Hiddengems

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I remember when a guy would sit down at a desk and tell me 5 people were killed in an explosion in Dublin, the ira has claimed responsibility.

That's news. Trying to prove the bombing would not have happened if (insert random us policy) was being done, is just someone pushing an agenda with news as a backdrop.
 
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waktoo

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Political opinion programming shows aren't subject to the legal ramifications
CatHedral said:
One thing has me scratching my head.

We have several press organizations that have wholly embraced the pack of lies at the base of everything MAGA. They are knowingly and willingly propagating lies that are a clear and present danger to the integrity of the republic. They have over a hundred million people hanging onto their feed of poison. I believe (but have no legal education to say) that these activities are beyond the domain of the First Amendment.

it is my unqualified opinion that they are engaged in sustained and systematic treason, giving air to the lively insurrection state movement.

If these organizations are indeed operating beyond the law, why are they not being charged with Federal conspiracy? What am I missing? Our government should have both the capacity and the mandate to stop them and then fine them into the next century.

Im confused.
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Apparently, political opinion programming shows aren't subject to the legal ramifications that arise from violating journalistic integrity (lying).

"No reasonable viewer"...

www.npr.org

You Literally Can't Believe The Facts Tucker Carlson Tells You. So Say Fox's Lawyers

Fox News viewers don't expect facts from Tucker Carlson, according to network lawyers who defended their star in a slander lawsuit filed by a woman who said she had an affair with President Trump.
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Fox and the like are not "news" organizations.
 
CatHedral

CatHedral

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waktoo said:
Political opinion programming shows aren't subject to the legal ramifications


Apparently, political opinion programming shows aren't subject to the legal ramifications that arise from violating journalistic integrity (lying).

"No reasonable viewer"...

www.npr.org

You Literally Can't Believe The Facts Tucker Carlson Tells You. So Say Fox's Lawyers

Fox News viewers don't expect facts from Tucker Carlson, according to network lawyers who defended their star in a slander lawsuit filed by a woman who said she had an affair with President Trump.
www.npr.org www.npr.org
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They call themselves news services. It isn’t Fox Opinion, One America Opinion Network or Opinionmax. So that’s beside the point.
 
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mooray

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Gotta have nameless sources. Too many people willing to use violence to oppress language.

The biggest fault lies with the person that is willing to believe anything, and then act on it.
 
CatHedral

CatHedral

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nuskool89 said:
Cable News Network is full of political opinion programming. Every major television network has opinion pieces full of half truths and nameless sources.
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So? Every network and newspaper has opinions and editorials, but they are marked as such. For content not plainly so disclaimed, it is there that the lever is to be applied.
 
nuskool89

nuskool89

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CatHedral said:
So? Every network and newspaper has opinions and editorials, but they are marked as such. For content not plainly so disclaimed, it is there that the lever is to be applied.
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You just left them off your list of culprits and I was pointing that out. Left leaning news broadcasts like CNN and MSNBC are just as guilty of stoking the flames of division with opinion pieces disguised as news, as Right leaning networks like Fox.

The entire industry is wrought with opinion and hearsay conveyed as fact.
 
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