Unclebaldrick
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Just from this thread alone...
So Tty, are you making new friends? Are you organizizing them? Are they going to follow you in a glorious revolution?
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The 'humanitarian crisis' in Venezuela... or not
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So Tty, are you making new friends? Are you organizizing them? Are they going to follow you in a glorious revolution?
Fogdog
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You can't substantiate that, Blaze.
Just STFU already That claim is not relevant to the current crisis. It's also not been reported from reliable sources. You right wingers get it wrong even when you could have made a valid point.
ttystikk
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Burning aid trucks exposed as false flag operation.
You're a closet Trump supporter.
ttystikk
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So do you.It's a witch hunt Hoax!
He sounds just like trump.
ttystikk
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What America has been doing to Venezuela is not okay but somehow you keep trying to justify American imperial war crimes.
ttystikk
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Again, you bring nothing to the conversation.
UncleBuck
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according to the same sites that you got your 6,000 step military protocols from, your false flag sarin attack, and your false flag russian attacks in london?
you are nothing but a joke anymore, flaming tty.
Unclebaldrick
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Unclebaldrick
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Fogdog
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An oil-rich country with a brutal authoritarian military dictator is destabilizing the region by making conditions so bad in the country that 3 million people have fled into Brazil and Columbia. How is it not in our interests to see Maduro off and Guaido, the legitimate leader of Venezuela hold office legitimate elections are held? Not saying US should invade, just saying work with the Lima Group to pressure Maduro to step down. The Lima Group should take leadership in this, not the US. They support non-military, non-violent measures. I do too.
Chavez was the revolutionary leader, Maduro was his driver and never held elected office before Chavez handed control of the country to him. Chavez appointed Maduro, who has become the kind of authoritarian, fascist leader that often arrives later in the revolutionary cycle.
Maduro has been suppressing newspapers and news media from reporting what is going on. Why would he do that?
Unclebaldrick
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hotrodharley
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The "humanitarian crisis" cry by the administration that arms Israel and watches them murder Palestinians is a fucking laugh. How about the humanitarian aid for them?
Further where is the concern?
Further where is the concern?
Fogdog
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From that post:
These were the nihilistic masked youth who form the shock troops of the right-wing opposition, and who placed Caracas under siege with violent barricade protests, known as guarimbas, at several points between 2014 and 2017.
If that were true, then why is Maduro preventing reporters from going wherever they want to tell the story?
hotrodharley
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Maduro needs to go. No question. When enough Venezuelans decide likewise it will happen. Or at least start. Then is the time it's appropriate to intervene.
Fogdog
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I have concern about both the Venezuelan refugees and the Palestinians who are practically imprisoned in Gaza.
Agree that Trump doesn't care about anybody. Still, the US is providing medical and food assistance to the Venezuelan refugees and I can't disagree with that even though I disagree with Trump.
Fogdog
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I can't argue with your sentiment. I just wonder how. Modern day military police states are difficult to displace by any means and nearly impossible to replace peacefully.
How do you think the people of Venezuela would accomplish this? Can you point out a country where this was accomplished?
hotrodharley
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The United States. With a lot of help from France at the appropriate time. Arms, money and even ships in support.
Fogdog
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Yes, although the colonies were hardly a modern police state. We were pretty lucky in our leaders too.
hotrodharley
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Frigging British soldiers garrisoned in people's homes? Seizing food supplies? Riding herd on the King's loyal subjects? We rebelled for a lot of reasons. Remember the Boston Massacre? Police state.
Fogdog
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Dude, I have a lot of respect for you. So I'll just say again. The colonies were hardly a modern police state. Something in the past hundred years would do. Would the uprising in Egypt a few years ago be a good example? Or perhaps Tunisia? I think those might be examples of how it can be done.