The Holy Bible

Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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Nevaeh420 said:
Thats a good question.

Some of the Christians will defend the Bible to the death. The Christians believe the Bible with their heart, soul, and mind. Its their belief, and they have a right to believe in anything they want, like the Atheists can too.

Personally, I am in between being a Theist and an Atheist, Im Agnostic. I dont claim to know the ultimate question- is God real?

I am content not knowing, dont get Me wrong, I would love to know, but the fact is that no one knows besides the Gnostics, allegedly.

~PEACE~
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There is nothing between atheist and theist. We've been over this, let's all use the language we've agreed upon.

When asked the question "Do you believe in god?", any answer but 'yes' makes you an atheist.

Agnosticism or gnosticism is a response to the question "Do you know for certain god does or doesn't exist?".

Stop being dumb, we've already been over this.

Saying you're in between atheist and theist is like saying you're in between being pregnant, and not pregnant. Your belief in god either exists, or it does not exist. You are either atheist or theist. No other options are available, INCLUDING AGNOSTICISM.

SHADDAP A YO FACE.

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Murphyball

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midgetaus said:
The bible is not the be all and end all of religious doctrine and to believe in a book with so many factual inaccuracies and "fairy tales" is something most people grow out of when they are children... it is the equivalent of still believing Santa arrived with Rudolph at the helm of his sleigh
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That is a false statement.. The great majority of believers do not "grow out of" their beliefs.. they simply reorganize and reinterpret them in such a way as to make sense to their adult brain.. The basic tenants of the belief system are stronger than ever. People believe in religion for one of three reasons: Indoctrination - exposure at an early age.. This is why catechism exists. Religious parents, church every Sunday, religious phrases such as "oh my god".. "Bless you" when someone sneezes, etc etc. Education - Or should I say lack of science education to be more precise. The NSF (National Science Foundation) just did a study in which they found 25% of Americans still don't understand that the Earth orbits the Sun.. It's pathetic. Popularity - People who pretend to believe to gain popularity.. I'm even guilty of this one myself when I was a teenager.. I needed to get into this chicks panties and I said anything I had to say to make it happen.. her big thing was church and so I went and sang the gospel just to get her out of her panties. Those are the three causes of religion in our modern world. I've been tempted to add a fourth cause "Fear" but haven't done it yet because I still believe it falls under indoctrination.... But I've been debating it with myself for a few years now.
 
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fr3d12

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Murphyball said:
That is a false statement.. The great majority of believers do not "grow out of" their beliefs.. they simply reorganize and reinterpret them in such a way as to make sense to their adult brain.. The basic tenants of the belief system are stronger than ever. People believe in religion for one of three reasons: Indoctrination - exposure at an early age.. This is why catechism exists. Religious parents, church every Sunday, religious phrases such as "oh my god".. "Bless you" when someone sneezes, etc etc. Education - Or should I say lack of science education to be more precise. The NSF (National Science Foundation) just did a study in which they found 25% of Americans still don't understand that the Earth orbits the Sun.. It's pathetic. Popularity - People who pretend to believe to gain popularity.. I'm even guilty of this one myself when I was a teenager.. I needed to get into this chicks panties and I said anything I had to say to make it happen.. her big thing was church and so I went and sang the gospel just to get her out of her panties. Those are the three causes of religion in our modern world. I've been tempted to add a fourth cause "Fear" but haven't done it yet because I still believe it falls under indoctrination.... But I've been debating it with myself for a few years now.
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Did you get the panties off after all that?
 
midgetaus

midgetaus

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Murphyball said:
That is a false statement.. The great majority of believers do not "grow out of" their beliefs.. they simply reorganize and reinterpret them in such a way as to make sense to their adult brain.. The basic tenants of the belief system are stronger than ever. People believe in religion for one of three reasons: Indoctrination - exposure at an early age.. This is why catechism exists. Religious parents, church every Sunday, religious phrases such as "oh my god".. "Bless you" when someone sneezes, etc etc. Education - Or should I say lack of science education to be more precise. The NSF (National Science Foundation) just did a study in which they found 25% of Americans still don't understand that the Earth orbits the Sun.. It's pathetic. Popularity - People who pretend to believe to gain popularity.. I'm even guilty of this one myself when I was a teenager.. I needed to get into this chicks panties and I said anything I had to say to make it happen.. her big thing was church and so I went and sang the gospel just to get her out of her panties. Those are the three causes of religion in our modern world. I've been tempted to add a fourth cause "Fear" but haven't done it yet because I still believe it falls under indoctrination.... But I've been debating it with myself for a few years now.
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Thanks for stating the obvious.. that believers dont grow out of their beliefs? Isnt that why they are believers in the first place... due to beliefs? SMH


You have misinterpreted my point.

AS far as the bible and its stories, many of them are akin to the ridiculous fantasies associated with the falsities and unrealistic notions that are found in most fairy tales...Children stop believing in fairy tales at a young age as they realise that it could never bee true... Unfortunately, parents instill in their children the notion that what occurred in the bible did in fact happen and if you dont believe then you will be forever damned to a life in hell... believing will give you salvation. Having a system of beliefs that instills this fear is much the same as saying if you dont believe in the 7 dwarfs you will rot in hell... As there is no consequence for not believing children grow out of it using rationalisation and their parents/guardians dont reinforce the need to believe in it due to it serving no purpose.... Christianity on the other hand relies on this fear for people to maintain their beliefs despite the absurdity of the notions and stories being told...
 
Nevaeh420

Nevaeh420

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midgetaus said:
So your conclusion that their is another Jesus comes from where exactly?
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I believe Im Christ, not Jesus, because My Name is actually George Manuel Oliveira, not Jesus. Jesus is a fictional character from the Bible.

Im a factual Person; I was born in Brockton, Massachusetts, in August of 1985. Im the real Christ and I have My proof.

believing in such a deity would require some form of proof no doubt. otherwise its merely a wishful idea that something does exist...
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I laid out most of My evidence in My signature. My signature isnt going to show up because Im on My smartphone; but you can get to My signature by clicking on My name "Nevaeh420". You just need to find My signature by clicking on My name where the avatar would be.

I will show you videos of Myself, My prophecies for the future, the Biblical stories I fulfilled, My belifs, some conspiracy theories, and more good stuff.

But you have to click on "Nevaeh420" in My avatar to get to My signature. Thats My evidence that Im Christ.

Enjoy the journey.

~PEACE~
 
Nevaeh420

Nevaeh420

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dannyboy602 said:
you must first spread some reputation around before giving it to the Lord thy God again.
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Lol, youre funny ;-)

I dont think Im anyones Lord yet, I can be Lord after I die and My Testament is complete. From what Ive heard, a person needs to DIE in order for it to be an "official" Testament. But I do have a pretty good (online) autobiography.

And Im not God, Im too much of a dolt to be God. I believe I am a god, but we are all gods, even the Atheists.

After I die, I can be Lord to My witnesses, but I can never be God.

God is above all, I am below all. God is the Greatest, I am the Least. God is all mighty, I am (all) needy. God is the Spirit, I am the Flesh. God is the Creator of the universe(s), I havent even terraformed a world yet. God is the Solution, I have many problems. God is all powerful, I cant carry weight. God is all knowing, I have ADD. God is everywhere, and no one really knows about Me yet.

God is God, I am George Manuel Oliveira, a Man CLAIMING to be Christ.

But a major difference between Me and God is that I can be proven to be a FACT, even to the Atheists, God is the biggest Mystery.

You can PROVE Me and what I have said, can the same be said about God Himself?

~PEACE~
 
dannyboy602

dannyboy602

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you must first spread some truth about your previous post because i said THE LORD THY GOD not Nevaeh420 who only thinks he's the son of God but who in reality is some lowly psych patient whose lobotomy didn't take. jezushchrist.
 
Finshaggy

Finshaggy

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Have you guys heard people say that the "Bible" stands for "Basic Information Before Leaving Earth".

And one day I heard someone on TV or something say "You can't find the word 'Bible' in the Bible, does that bother you?"
 
Nevaeh420

Nevaeh420

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dannyboy602 said:
you must first spread some truth about your previous post because i said THE LORD THY GOD not Nevaeh420 who only thinks he's the son of God but who in reality is some lowly psych patient whose lobotomy didn't take. jezushchrist.
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Lol, My bad... thats too funny, I thought you were referring to Me.

I guess I was assuming things again.

My bad. But thats what I would have said if you were referring to Me.

EDIT- Whos "THE LORD THY GOD" anyways?

~PEACE~
 
midgetaus

midgetaus

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Nevaeh420 said:
I believe Im Christ, not Jesus, because My Name is actually George Manuel Oliveira, not Jesus. Jesus is a fictional character from the Bible.

Im a factual Person; I was born in Brockton, Massachusetts, in August of 1985. Im the real Christ and I have My proof.



I laid out most of My evidence in My signature. My signature isnt going to show up because Im on My smartphone; but you can get to My signature by clicking on My name "Nevaeh420". You just need to find My signature by clicking on My name where the avatar would be.

I will show you videos of Myself, My prophecies for the future, the Biblical stories I fulfilled, My belifs, some conspiracy theories, and more good stuff.

But you have to click on "Nevaeh420" in My avatar to get to My signature. Thats My evidence that Im Christ.

Enjoy the journey.

~PEACE~
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Jesus of Nazareth did in fact exist... there is no fiction there...
 
dr.gonzo1

dr.gonzo1

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Finshaggy said:
People say "If you put a million monkeys in a room with typewriters, eventually they will write Hamlet" But I really think that that is a COMPLETE over statement
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Fuckin hell fin. That statement is about time being infinite, not whether what they wrote will be intelligible or not. You are completely missing the point.

You constantly state "I'm writing this for some young stoner kid" in my opinion, what you write is not going to be of benefit to these kids. More a hindrance. Maybe you should think about consuming more content, rather than trying to re interoperate the content you do consume.
 
Nevaeh420

Nevaeh420

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midgetaus said:
Jesus of Nazareth did in fact exist... there is no fiction there...
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Can you emperically PROVE Jesus of Nazareth?

I dont think you can emperically PROVE Jesus of Nazareth!

No one can prove Jesus.

But to be fair, I agree that there could have been a Jesus that lived in Nazareth about 2,000 years ago; but I cant PROVE Jesus, so this is nothing more then speculation, assumption, and conjecture.

But I can be emperically PROVEN!

EDIT- In that respect, I am greater then Jesus.

~PEACE~
 
dr.gonzo1

dr.gonzo1

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Nevaeh420 said:
Can you emperically PROVE Jesus of Nazareth?

I dont think you can emperically PROVE Jesus of Nazareth!

No one can prove Jesus.

But to be fair, I agree that there could have been a Jesus that lived in Nazareth about 2,000 years ago; but I cant PROVE Jesus, so this is nothing more then speculation, assumption, and conjecture.

But I can be emperically PROVEN!

EDIT- In that respect, I am greater then Jesus.

~PEACE~
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Like the cut of your jib. Interesting, well thought out posts.
 
Finshaggy

Finshaggy

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I guess we are both right actually, the quote is about how random the universe is even though it seems orderly. But that is because we only live to be about 100 years old, and the universe is so much older (like the monkeys in the room).
 
midgetaus

midgetaus

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Nevaeh420 said:
Can you emperically PROVE Jesus of Nazareth?

I dont think you can emperically PROVE Jesus of Nazareth!

No one can prove Jesus.

But to be fair, I agree that there could have been a Jesus that lived in Nazareth about 2,000 years ago; but I cant PROVE Jesus, so this is nothing more then speculation, assumption, and conjecture.

But I can be emperically PROVEN!

EDIT- In that respect, I am greater then Jesus.

~PEACE~
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Nothing outside of our lifetime can be empirically proven... that doesn't mean it or they didn't exist...
 
dr.gonzo1

dr.gonzo1

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Finshaggy said:
I guess we are both right actually, the quote is about how random the universe is even though it seems orderly. But that is because we only live to be about 100 years old, and the universe is so much older (like the monkeys in the room).
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No fin, The monkeys quote is about time being infinite. It has nothing to do with "how random.the universe is" Obviously monkeys can't write Shakespeare but because time is infinite in this example, then they would write every book by Shakespeare, Infact they would write every word, in every order ever written. Does that make sense? It's about time not randomness. You've misunderstood the meaning. Which you tend to do often.
 
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