The Dons' Organic Garden

DonTesla

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Ohh look at Ringo's Gift.
interesting as they have acdc, then cannotonic.
what's this you mentioned about testing, only 7 grams? Here in the Great North?
Yeah only 7 grams to do a test, its my buddies buddies who are labbing it up.. if you need a test I can try get it done for ya.
 

DonTesla

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Ohh look at Ringo's Gift.
interesting as they have acdc, then cannotonic.
Yeah Ringo's Gift is interesting,

I didnt know that SoHum Soils has a SoHum Seeds company,
I see they are the closest thing to our competition up here, but unfortunately for them they have an inferior soil blend which was based on the Revs book, TLO, which we all know, has many flaws, all due respect to the Rev, who is a good guy and friend of my brother, DP.
 
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DonTesla

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Ummm yah x 15

On a run of cannotonnic looking for the acdc

I wasnt aware of available testing facilities.
Yeah we should be testing all our keepers eh, and all those potentials too! I was going to test a bunch before moving but I kept it ALL for personal cause (haha) I knew my garden would be down a couple months

My connect for the testing also moved out west a few weeks after me, so we are both here, but I believe the facility is in ON, I will double check and get back to you, they really really really want the Pink Gravy so I should hit them up, they own an MJ art studio and it would make for some fantastic shots, no doubt!

But back to testing, I will be testing some PG in about a month, all 4 phenos will be available.
They aren't organic, which is what I'm most interested in testing, but it will be good to compare gravies from different styles/growers/gardens, so we can see the differences on the results, I'm stoked!
 
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DonTesla

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Several peeps been asking bout these pests so gonna up post here too, for the Dons' Community to soak up and try some of these solutions out if they like.

So, some of my tips for fighting fungus gnats:
  1. can use Diatomaceous Earth Rocks (not POWDER) i.e. diatomite to create a 2" sharp, life-cycle rock barrier on the topsoil.
  2. can also use thick slices of potato to lure the babies, then discard as they gather. (Be sure to use at least one inch thick slices, if too thin they will dry fast and then the larvae won't stay confident in it as a grounds for growing up)
  3. can dry the top a bit then reinoculate with bacteria dominated tea.
  4. can mist herb waters they don't like.
  5. can set yellow sticky traps (even DIY ones work, they also like blue)
  6. can use Rove Beetles (aka Dolotia Coriaria) as well as Hypoaspis Miles Predators (Strateolaelaps Scimitus)
  7. can also use NEMS for the larva (Latin: Steinernema feltia)
  8. can plant a few organic garlic cloves around the stems
  9. roots of French Marigolds are toxic to bad nematodes and many larvae
  10. pyrethrum companion plants can also aid in fighting various pest pressures
  11. top dress of fresh EWC if in a no till situation / not over 20% of total volume yet
  12. lots of airflow can help them stay grounded and thwart their progress too

If you need tips for other bugs let me know!

Cheers, guys

-Don
 
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thccbdhealth

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Several peeps been asking bout these pests so gonna up post here too, for the Dons' Community to soak up and try some of these solutions out if they like.

So, some of my tips for fighting fungus gnats:
  1. can use Diatomaceous Earth Rocks (not POWDER) i.e. diatomite to create a 2" sharp, life-cycle rock barrier on the topsoil.
  2. can also use thick slices of potato to lure the babies, then discard as they gather. (Be sure to use at least one inch thick slices, if too thin they will dry fast and then the larvae won't stay confident in it as a grounds for growing up)
  3. can dry the top a bit then reinoculate with bacteria dominated tea.
  4. can mist herb waters they don't like.
  5. can set yellow sticky traps (even DIY ones work, they also like blue)
  6. can use Rove Beetles (aka Dolotia Coriaria) as well as Hypoaspis Miles Predators (Strateolaelaps Scimitus)
  7. can also use NEMS for the larva (Latin: Steinernema feltia)
  8. can plant a few organic garlic cloves around the stems
  9. roots of French Marigolds are toxic to bad nematodes and many larvae
  10. pyrethrum companion plants can also aid in fighting various pest pressures
  11. top dress of fresh EWC if in a no till situation / not over 20% of total volume yet
  12. lots of airflow can help them stay grounded and thwart their progress too

If you need tips for other bugs let me know!

Cheers, guys

-Don
I was recently told that a layer of playground sand on top of the soil also works to get rid of them fungas gnats.

I suppose that would only work when watering with bottles nutrients as having the layer of sand would mean consistently moving it every time you top dress.
 

DonBrennon

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Several peeps been asking bout these pests so gonna up post here too, for the Dons' Community to soak up and try some of these solutions out if they like.

So, some of my tips for fighting fungus gnats:
  1. can use Diatomaceous Earth Rocks (not POWDER) i.e. diatomite to create a 2" sharp, life-cycle rock barrier on the topsoil.
  2. can also use thick slices of potato to lure the babies, then discard as they gather. (Be sure to use at least one inch thick slices, if too thin they will dry fast and then the larvae won't stay confident in it as a grounds for growing up)
  3. can dry the top a bit then reinoculate with bacteria dominated tea.
  4. can mist herb waters they don't like.
  5. can set yellow sticky traps (even DIY ones work, they also like blue)
  6. can use Rove Beetles (aka Dolotia Coriaria) as well as Hypoaspis Miles Predators (Strateolaelaps Scimitus)
  7. can also use NEMS for the larva (Latin: Steinernema feltia)
  8. can plant a few organic garlic cloves around the stems
  9. roots of French Marigolds are toxic to bad nematodes and many larvae
  10. pyrethrum companion plants can also aid in fighting various pest pressures
  11. top dress of fresh EWC if in a no till situation / not over 20% of total volume yet
  12. lots of airflow can help them stay grounded and thwart their progress too

If you need tips for other bugs let me know!

Cheers, guys

-Don
What do you know/think about BTI Don? I've tried most of the available options you've listed to no avail. If I could buy the nematodes in smaller doses I'd go that route, but my last drench of nems' was costly and didn't work, they need multiple applications IMO. I used to use gnatoff, which is basically bti, when I ran into problems in coco, worked a treat but is totally banned over here now. I've been able to source some, but I'm worried about them killing all my benny's along with the fungus gnat.
 

DonTesla

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oh yah, BTI, that's one more the folks, thanks DB! Bacillus thuringiensis (subspecies) Israelensis, thats completely natural. There's a product called Microbe Lift, thats what it is.

its good for the larvae, and kills mosquito larvae too which might be good in summer especially if collecting rain water.

But yeah NEMs do need multiple apps hey, I kinda found that too, we just used a spoonful every second day, in conjunction with potato traps and DE Rock Pebbles, and pretty much everything else on the list, at the same, time, and they were gone! aha.

I think people can get larvae with just leaving their worm farm out to collect in the open, thats why I always chuck good scraps in the freezer right away now.
 

Buba Blend

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Several peeps been asking bout these pests so gonna up post here too, for the Dons' Community to soak up and try some of these solutions out if they like.

So, some of my tips for fighting fungus gnats:
  1. can use Diatomaceous Earth Rocks (not POWDER) i.e. diatomite to create a 2" sharp, life-cycle rock barrier on the topsoil.
  2. can also use thick slices of potato to lure the babies, then discard as they gather. (Be sure to use at least one inch thick slices, if too thin they will dry fast and then the larvae won't stay confident in it as a grounds for growing up)
  3. can dry the top a bit then reinoculate with bacteria dominated tea.
  4. can mist herb waters they don't like.
  5. can set yellow sticky traps (even DIY ones work, they also like blue)
  6. can use Rove Beetles (aka Dolotia Coriaria) as well as Hypoaspis Miles Predators (Strateolaelaps Scimitus)
  7. can also use NEMS for the larva (Latin: Steinernema feltia)
  8. can plant a few organic garlic cloves around the stems
  9. roots of French Marigolds are toxic to bad nematodes and many larvae
  10. pyrethrum companion plants can also aid in fighting various pest pressures
  11. top dress of fresh EWC if in a no till situation / not over 20% of total volume yet
  12. lots of airflow can help them stay grounded and thwart their progress too

If you need tips for other bugs let me know!

Cheers, guys

-Don
Hi Don!
I did not see you mention H202 for fungus gnat larvae. I was wondering what your opinion is on using it?
 

DonTesla

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Hi Don!
I did not see you mention H202 for fungus gnat larvae. I was wondering what your opinion is on using it?
I just posted my own personal top 10 ways, bud, and kinda figured that was plenty / a nice round number..

.. but yeah, I have used hydrogen peroxide diluted with 10 parts water, for ridding of sinus infection, along with Vitamin A and E fish oils. Its an antibiotic replacement, apparently, according to some old research I did, so I played with that since I've had tonsillitis so many times. The reason I say this, is that my fav garden methods usually are those that I wouldn't be afraid to try/use on myself, crazy as that may sound. So I wouldn't be opposed to it, especially in non organic applications in inert mediums. As for my precious organic soil, which is my fav asset other than the DIY cob lights, I would try the other methods first, probably, to be honest.

But..

If you have some positive experiences with it, especially in living soil, then please, do tell, mate.

Appreciate the chiming in
 

DonTesla

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Ima be; Prayin' For Bitch's
LOL
I am praying for ya too bud. 100% FEMALES for you.. program your water as feminine and cll em girls, see what happens.

I also hear that deeper pots promote more females. Just according to a friend of mine who's done some reading.
 

thccbdhealth

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So there is Some reasoning for us to connect, behind starting seeds in red solo cups v.s. rapid rooters, jiffy pucks, or shot glasses.
 

DonTesla

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So there is Some reasoning for us to connect, behind starting seeds in red solo cups v.s. rapid rooters, jiffy pucks, or shot glasses.
I like the deep one gallon pots best,

they are only ~4 inches wide, so you can fit ~9 in every square foot, but they are deep enough to be 1 gallon.

I tried a super rapid up pot schedule with small as possible / shallow as possible set up, but I found my female count dropped from 90 % to 50%

that said I also stopped programming the water so .. who knows really. But I will try again soon and let chy'all know
 
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