The Day Is Finally Here! 4x4 Setup (tips?)

DrDukePHD

DrDukePHD

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Today is day 1 of setup. A cancer diagnosis, followed by weeks of research, dozens of posts, 100 websites, 3 hydroponic store visits & all of your amazing help here at RIU have culminated in...a AC Infinity 4x4 tent, T6 inline fan with Controller 69 & a FC4800 light.

Now, should I follow the instructions in the tent box OR go by a youtube video?

Any quick tips/tricks you can share to help make this go smoothly?

I'm only setting up the tent, exhaust & light today. Still waiting on other parts. Wish me luck, I've never been camping or setup a tent of any kind :p #excited
 
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Jjgrow420

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Setting up the tent is easy. Just follow the directions on the paper to build the frame. Once you build the frame maybe get the wife or a friend to help drape the material over and around as it can be a little bit annoying. Usually, to do a smaller tent, I'll find the bottom, then set the 'skeleton' in it and start zipping. It's really easy. Don't force anything and don't put weight on it until the material is over it. Kinda like steel stud the strength comes when the material clats it.
For the fan, I like to use ratchet straps to hold it up in the ceiling. I know they won't let go and can hold 1000x more than what the combo weighs. You'll actually get better suction if you put a small run of ducting between your filter and fan, then duct it out of the tent. Good luck bud!
 
DrDukePHD

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Jjgrow420 said:
Setting up the tent is easy. Just follow the directions on the paper to build the frame. Once you build the frame maybe get the wife or a friend to help drape the material over and around as it can be a little bit annoying. Usually, to do a smaller tent, I'll find the bottom, then set the 'skeleton' in it and start zipping. It's really easy. Don't force anything and don't put weight on it until the material is over it. Kinda like steel stud the strength comes when the material clats it.
For the fan, I like to use ratchet straps to hold it up in the ceiling. I know they won't let go and can hold 1000x more than what the combo weighs. You'll actually get better suction if you put a small run of ducting between your filter and fan, then duct it out of the tent. Good luck bud!
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got it up.... phewww
 
calvin.m16

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My advice would be keep the grow as simple as possible until you figure out what works and what doesn't. I would suggest investing in another tent for clones so you can copy Photoperiod plants that you like. Autoflowers you never know what you're going to get really. Every seed is different..

What do you plan to grow the plants in?
 
DrDukePHD

DrDukePHD

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calvin.m16 said:
My advice would be keep the grow as simple as possible until you figure out what works and what doesn't. I would suggest investing in another tent for clones so you can copy Photoperiod plants that you like. Autoflowers you never know what you're going to get really. Every seed is different..

What do you plan to grow the plants in?
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I got 10 regular (non-fem) photo seeds from a reputable vendor, a stack of red solo cups, four 5-gallon fabric pots & 2 bags of FF Ocean Forest.
 
MICHI-CAN

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DrDukePHD said:
I got 10 regular (non-fem) photo seeds from a reputable vendor, a stack of red solo cups, four 5-gallon fabric pots & 2 bags of FF Ocean Forest.
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Now you need a good organic starter mix and coco-coire. Don't germ seeds in FFOF. Or use straight.

You will want to take a couple clones from your plants to hold until sex is determined. Calvin M-6 is wrong on another tent needed.
 
DrDukePHD

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MICHI-CAN said:
Now you need a good organic starter mix and coco-coire. Don't germ seeds in FFOF. Or use straight.

You will want to take a couple clones from your plants to hold until sex is determined. Calvin M-6 is wrong on another tent needed.
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Ok, the grow shop guy insisted i could put a germed seed straight into OF. And transplant from a solo-cup straight to a 5-gallon.

What do you suggest for starter mix, i can head back to grow shop, they carry most of the popular brands.
 
PopAndSonGrows

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I've found the best way for me to start seeds, is in a solo cup full of coco coir. I use a sandwich baggie as a dome on the cup, until they sprout. I've found this to be best because there's no nutrients to burn the seedling, everything stays not too wet/not too dry, and the coco can easily transplant into a soil container if you're gona grow in Ocean Forest, for example. I usually leave em in the cups for 3 to 4 weeks.
 
MICHI-CAN

MICHI-CAN

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DrDukePHD said:
Ok, the grow shop guy insisted i could put a germed seed straight into OF. And transplant from a solo-cup straight to a 5-gallon.

What do you suggest for starter mix, i can head back to grow shop, they carry most of the popular brands.
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I use "Dairy Doo" Seed starter 101 mixed 50/50 with coco-coire for starters. Any organic, quality seed starter mix will substitute. FFOF tends to be too hot.

The starter mixes are usually plenty light and moderately fertilized. And still lack moisture retention. Why I add the coco.

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Jjgrow420

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Billy the Mountain said:
I'm not sure I follow the logic.
The longer the length between the fan and filter, the more static pressure, the less airflow.
More ducting = less flow
Maybe I'm not visualizing it correctly
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I was talking to a filter rep. He told me that if the fan is too close to the filter, it won't draw as much air but if there's a small run in between there's enough room behind the blades to get a full draw. I duno. I changed mine and it seemed to have a better flow.
I think it's kinda the same idea like if your fan is too close to the wall in your tent it won't blow as much air because there's not enough room behind it
 
MICHI-CAN

MICHI-CAN

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Jjgrow420 said:
I was talking to a filter rep. He told me that if the fan is too close to the filter, it won't draw as much air but if there's a small run in between there's enough room behind the blades to get a full draw. I duno. I changed mine and it seemed to have a better flow.
I think it's kinda the same idea like if your fan is too close to the wall in your tent it won't blow as much air because there's not enough room behind it
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It is called cavitation. When the blades of a prop pass through their own turbulence and loose drag co efficiency. LOL.
 
Billy the Mountain

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Jjgrow420 said:
I was talking to a filter rep. He told me that if the fan is too close to the filter, it won't draw as much air but if there's a small run in between there's enough room behind the blades to get a full draw. I duno. I changed mine and it seemed to have a better flow.
I think it's kinda the same idea like if your fan is too close to the wall in your tent it won't blow as much air because there's not enough room behind it
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I understand the principle of say, a box fan too close to a wall would lose efficiency but I don't think that applies to an inline fan which already has a flange present.

I'm 99.9% sure the filter rep is wrong.

It would be easy enough to test: If he's correct, there will be more airflow with the small run connected
 
Jjgrow420

Jjgrow420

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Billy the Mountain said:
I understand the principle of say, a box fan too close to a wall would lose efficiency but I don't think that applies to an inline fan which already has a flange present.

I'm 99.9% sure the filter rep is wrong.

It would be easy enough to test: If he's correct, there will be more airflow with the small run connected
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Ya I duno. I'm no fan-ologist or anything and I don't have a way of measuring the output other than it seems to suck the sides of the tent in more now. In theory, it made sense to me. I make my own active intakes as well and noticed if I make that space between the filter and the duct fan it blows harder inside and doesn't sound like a vacuum. Food for thought I guess
 
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