The "D" day pool, best guess as to when Trump is out

greg nr

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hope is fucked. per the wolff book, which i have almost completed, bannon has considered her legally fucked for a while. told her a long time ago to get an attorney.
Trump probably has fever dreams about hope in prison rape scenes. He isn't going to lif a finger to help her or anyone else except himself. He probably won't even save ivanka if it means he has to pay for it somehow.

"That's too bad". It's the line he uses all the time. boo-hoo hope. You are on your own in a dangerous world.
 

Sour Wreck

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Trump probably has fever dreams about hope in prison rape scenes. He isn't going to lif a finger to help her or anyone else except himself. He probably won't even save ivanka if it means he has to pay for it somehow.

"That's too bad". It's the line he uses all the time. boo-hoo hope. You are on your own in a dangerous world.
mueller needs to get trump first, so he can't pardon. that would be the icing on the cake.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Trump probably has fever dreams about hope in prison rape scenes. He isn't going to lif a finger to help her or anyone else except himself. He probably won't even save ivanka if it means he has to pay for it somehow.

"That's too bad". It's the line he uses all the time. boo-hoo hope. You are on your own in a dangerous world.
Abandon all Hope ye who enter here! Trump abandons Hope! Could be a headline. Hope he Pardons her, would be another slogan. Or perhaps, Trump destroys Hope.

She is from a wealthy family and doesn't need the job, she must be brainwashed or stupid, perhaps both.
 

Sour Wreck

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Abandon all Hope ye who enter here! Trump abandons Hope! Could be a headline. Hope he Pardons her, would be another slogan. Or perhaps, Trump destroys Hope.

She is from a wealthy family and doesn't need the job, she must be brainwashed or stupid, perhaps both.
the book mentions her family and their concerns about her legal liabilities. she's a dumb bitch.

personally, i would love to see anyone that worked with trump have their career blackballed.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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mueller needs to get trump first, so he can't pardon. that would be the icing on the cake.
The way I understand it, accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt and she can't plead the 5th during testimony, so it's even more dangerous for Trump. Dunno why she is still working in the WH, Trump must be browbeating her constantly, she needs to resign. She might just be the key that unlocks this bullshit theater.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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hope is fucked. per the wolff book, which i have almost completed, bannon has considered her legally fucked for a while. told her a long time ago to get an attorney.
She is gonna be road kill, if she talks her head off, Mueller might go easy, she is more naive than malicious. Charmed by and in the thrall of a snake, Trump won't want to let her get too far away from him, lest he lose control over her. He will resist her resignation, use her to the end before disposal, I figure her parents are freaking out about now.
 

greg nr

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The way I understand it, accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt and she can't plead the 5th during testimony, so it's even more dangerous for Trump. Dunno why she is still working in the WH, Trump must be browbeating her constantly, she needs to resign. She might just be the key that unlocks this bullshit theater.
First off, it seems to be the prevailing opinion within the doj that you cant indict a sitting president. Sure, there are other opinions but only the doj's matters.

So put that fever dteam aside. He will likely be unindicted, but still be named a co-conspirator. It doesnt mean he couldnt be indicted after he leaves office, but that as we saw with nixon may still not happen.

But for a pardon, you dont have to give up your constitutio al rights just because you took one. You can still claim the 5th. In fact, its probably a good idea.

But what you will likely see in the next week is trump firing rosenstein, or sessions, and replacing them with a puppet. End of investigation.

Done. All evidence will be sealed and only the president could clear it.

Over. All except for the whining in congress. But nothing meaningful.
 

Sour Wreck

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First off, it seems to be the prevailing opinion within the doj that you cant indict a sitting president. Sure, there are other opinions but only the doj's matters.

So put that fever dteam aside. He will likely be unindicted, but still be named a co-conspirator. It doesnt mean he couldnt be indicted after he leaves office, but that as we saw with nixon may still not happen.

But for a pardon, you dont have to give up your constitutio al rights just because you took one. You can still claim the 5th. In fact, its probably a good idea.

But what you will likely see in the next week is trump firing rosenstein, or sessions, and replacing them with a puppet. End of investigation.

Done. All evidence will be sealed and only the president could clear it.

Over. All except for the whining in congress. But nothing meaningful.

there will be riots in the streets
 

DIY-HP-LED

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First off, it seems to be the prevailing opinion within the doj that you cant indict a sitting president. Sure, there are other opinions but only the doj's matters.

So put that fever dteam aside. He will likely be unindicted, but still be named a co-conspirator. It doesnt mean he couldnt be indicted after he leaves office, but that as we saw with nixon may still not happen.

But for a pardon, you dont have to give up your constitutio al rights just because you took one. You can still claim the 5th. In fact, its probably a good idea.

But what you will likely see in the next week is trump firing rosenstein, or sessions, and replacing them with a puppet. End of investigation.

Done. All evidence will be sealed and only the president could clear it.

Over. All except for the whining in congress. But nothing meaningful.
Shit Greg, yer a pessimist! If half of what you say is true then Trump shouldn't be worried at all!

I'm pretty sure about the 5th amendment, heard it from enough lawyers who are experts in that area of the law.

As for indictments against Trump, Mueller has Jeff Sessions by the balls and they might just throw the dice and toss it to the supremes, they watch the news too.

The open cases and all the ones that will be filed before Mueller is fired will be very awkward too! Mueller can also sue for his job and get a court order to keep it until a hearing. He will take Jeff Sessions with him if Rosenstein is fired, Jeff will have to howl for Mueller or howl for his cellmate, Trump will have to fire Sessions as well. Then there's the question of confirming a replacement and finding someone stupid enough to fire Mueller. Any volunteers for jail? Maybe Paul Ryan will take the job of AG to replace Sessions, or Nunes perhaps...

I ain't ready to roll over for these cocksuckers and neither are most Americans, there's lot's that can be done and will be done. The GOP is in for one Helluva ride to extinction.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Thats what they are hoping for.
Hard to riot with the mayor and cops on your side, I think they are called peaceful protests and ya get huge turnouts too. No need to riot, yer not there yet, not by a long shot, the closer to november ya get the more worried the GOP is gonna get. If Trump is still president in november the GOP is done bigly and so is Trump. Don't underestimate the electrifying effect that a "real and present danger" can have on the electorate, a majority of folks are very worried about Trump's competence and fitness for office. A lot more will be known about Russia and Trump by then too and it will also strip away GOP support.

I don't think anybody could have done a number on the GOP like Trump, by the time he's done dragging them through shit their "brand" won't be worth shit. If anybody can break them Donald will, he has near total power over the GOP now, let's see what happens to them...
 

Fogdog

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First off, it seems to be the prevailing opinion within the doj that you cant indict a sitting president. Sure, there are other opinions but only the doj's matters.

So put that fever dteam aside. He will likely be unindicted, but still be named a co-conspirator. It doesnt mean he couldnt be indicted after he leaves office, but that as we saw with nixon may still not happen.

But for a pardon, you dont have to give up your constitutio al rights just because you took one. You can still claim the 5th. In fact, its probably a good idea.

But what you will likely see in the next week is trump firing rosenstein, or sessions, and replacing them with a puppet. End of investigation.

Done. All evidence will be sealed and only the president could clear it.

Over. All except for the whining in congress. But nothing meaningful.
I don't think we know what Mueller has uncovered. We can speculate and I'm not saying your scenario is unlikely, I'm just saying that we don't know.
 

Sour Wreck

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I don't think we know what Mueller has uncovered. We can speculate and I'm not saying your scenario is unlikely, I'm just saying that we don't know.
for example, corallo is just sharing the bit about hope hicks and the jr emails. did mueller already know this?
 
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