The Art of The Auto

John Mondello said:

Well, thanks for the tip greanmean69

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MEANGREEN69 said:

and by the way its MEANGREEN69....lol

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Nice one JM

and he is right the little bastards will hop a ride right into your auto room and we dont need that.
Neem oil has always been my savior and the soap works well too.

http://urbangardenmagazine.com/2010/11/predators-amblyseius-cucumeris-vs-thrips/


Amblyseius cucumeris is what I ordered... Gardeningzone.com... if anyone needs these as well

a little article on beneficials... and glad to know the neem works, I'll be applying that in a few mintues as I keep it on hand for shit like this and in my commercial garden too... Love that stuff!

sorry bout the name mix-up MEANGREEN69...lol
can we call you MG69 for short?

Nice one JM

and he is right the little bastards will hop a ride right into your auto room and we dont need that.
Neem oil has always been my savior and the soap works well too.

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well, they're already there I see... smaller quatities than on top chamber... but the air flow is linked and they def are starting on the bottom... but I'm not using oil this close to harvest (12-17 days) on those... gonna let them ride and introduce the beneficials ASAP.... and then after harvest... I'll neem the ever-living-shit-fuck-ass-piss-hole out of the whole setup... also think I'll be amending neem into my watering regiment (intervals) to help stop development of futre infestations.... this is what I get for bringing in a few plants from the garden.... I F-ing knew btter!




AG-revated...
J

I wouldn't kick myself to much if I were you JM the little fuckers will find a way in some how. I have started using the neem oil today for my nasty little fungus gnat bastards.

yeah i can go with "MG69". were all those seeds planted at the same time? and are they the same strain? cause if your into breeding you can tell which are resistant to trips.

just by the pics i can see the ones that were resistant and the ones that were weak.

teflondummy said:

I wouldn't kick myself to much if I were you JM the little fuckers will find a way in some how. I have started using the neem oil today for my nasty little fungus gnat bastards.

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Exactly JM, its all part of the game bro. Its not gonna be an ideal grow every time. This grow I have delt with worms coming out of my blood meal that was a f*cking treat, and just balanced off a Mg issue too (i think, will know tomorrow)

John Mondello said:

only taking clones for light derpivation (force male flowers) cuz all i have is femmed... and I wanna cross more fem seeds... so thats all they're for... not trying to increase yields from one seed... doesn't sound like that reals feasible... although at some point I may try it for hahas!

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Ooooh ok, that makes more sense

Well since this thread moves like lightning, and were on the cal/mag subject is that what you guys believe i have aswell. A cple pgs back thanks. And if so hitman suggested 1tsp of epson should i feed with anything else at the same time? . i have FF TB and BB.. or should i just feed the epson, and only the one time/?

I wouldn't kick myself to much if I were you JM the little fuckers will find a way in some how. I have started using the neem oil today for my nasty little fungus gnat bastards.

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Glad to hear you are kicking your problem to the curb as well!

yeah i can go with "MG69". were all those seeds planted at the same time? and are they the same strain? cause if your into breeding you can tell which are resistant to trips.
just by the pics i can see the ones that were resistant and the ones that were weak.

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I hadn't really noticed yet, but then I'm just becoming aware of my thrip infestation... so still processing... I think I could reasoably deduct which were better off... but I'm never one to turn down advice... so please enlighten me....

Strains are: AutoBerry (Feminized) (7)
Auto widow (Feminized) (7)
Low Ryder #2 (Feminized) (7)

although most of my infestation is with my clones which are primarily SSH (Super silver Haze) and a few (irreplaceable) Kona Mist (a personal favorite) the SSH and KM are both Photo-type plants

Exactly JM, its all part of the game bro. Its not gonna be an ideal grow every time. This grow I have delt with worms coming out of my blood meal that was a f*cking treat, and just balanced off a Mg issue too (i think, will know tomorrow)

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Oh, I know.. dammnit... but I was hoping for ONE ideal grow THIS time.. lol what? not realistic? lol
I'll control them just like everything else that tries to kill my plants... I actually kinda thrive off the challenge! Tommorrow morning: its Thrips and milk with a little honey for breakfast! lol

Well since this thread moves like lightning, and were on the cal/mag subject is that what you guys believe i have aswell. A cple pgs back thanks. And if so hitman suggested 1tsp of epson should i feed with anything else at the same time? . i have FF TB and BB.. or should i just feed the epson, and only the one time/?

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I'm going to go back and look at your pics... not sure yet... but if you do have a cal/mag defficiency... epsoms will clear it up real quick... "TIP- It's how I grow KICKASS peppers every year" they require very high cal/mag

also, in the future you can add a little Dolomite lime into your soil mix to fic this... but not too much as it will tweak your soil PH up over time.... usually reacts very slow... whereas Epsom Salts is FAST!

ok... checked ur pics... and have one of the others double-check my diagnosis... but... I believe its just a cal / mag issue... or possibly thats related to PH... whats ur ph running at?

as far as epsom salts... you could probably do it once every 2 weeks if you water till runoff (and you should as that washes away excess salt buildups and ph lockout issues as a result)
1 tsp per gallon should do it... and definetly do it either way provided your ph is on target... as this will eliminate my sneaking other suspicion.... which is you MAY have the thrips also... although I dont see few key things there like the silvery spotty shit... so I tend to think ph or cal/mag.

J

ps - couple pages back! lol! it was like 6 or 8...lol
Autoflowers- hearts like lions - threads like lighting!

Ok thanks JM and Hitman. its watering day tom she will get the epson treatman. My water ph is about 6.2 no higher than 6.5 no lower than 6.0. BTW wasnt doubting you hitman was just looking for a second opnion rep to both of you's... ive heard great things about the dolomite but its like impossible to find around here i seem to only be able to find just lawn lime... oh and LOL sorry it WAS acouple pgs back haha

ok... def try the epsom... then see what happens in the next week or so... meanwhile, if you have the extra cash.. get some straight neem oil... and be ready to fire!

J

John Mondello said:

I hadn't really noticed yet, but then I'm just becoming aware of my thrip infestation... so still processing... I think I could reasoably deduct which were better off... but I'm never one to turn down advice... so please enlighten me....

Strains are: AutoBerry (Feminized) (7)
Auto widow (Feminized) (7)
Low Ryder #2 (Feminized) (7)

although most of my infestation is with my clones which are primarily SSH (Super silver Haze) and a few (irreplaceable) Kona Mist (a personal favorite) the SSH and KM are both Photo-type plants

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sucks about your konamist hope one makes it..i used to get bad infestations of trips all the time. if i grew out seeds i whould let the trips have there way with the seedlings. in a few weeks some whould be messed up others whould be growing fine. use those to breed. with trips look for plants that keep putting out new growth and dont have highly damaged leafs...ONLY THE STRONG!!!!

yup... thats about what I was expecting... sweet... thanks... I will def include that in my breeding techniques..

yeah, my KM is one of my fav photos... its tasy and medicinal and a nice combo of sativa /indica buzz... cant wait to get it crossed into an autoflower!



J

FullDuplex said:

This is why i think that she is root bound.

If you take a look at the bud sets in this pic

You can see that she has started to flower but her buds are not set. Take a look at the crown/ head formation
it is not fully developed and has not lifted. When my buds are coming in at this phase there is still a bit of stretch
in flower until the crown bud forms. Seems that once that happens the rest start to fill in its almost like a trigger.
IF this plant is pot bound there was no room for the roots to develop as she finished her last bit of stretch heading
into full flower. As they are entering flower, they still produce roots, actually i dont really think that they stop.
If there is no room for this than the bud development will slow as well leaving the plant in a hibernated state.
When you go to transplant take a pic of the roots i want to see them if you dont mind.

But i bet once you get her in a new home and she settles i bet she grows a little more and then starts filling out

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Thats just what I was seeing...but was wondering about the new things im tryin if it was something else, Hope she does fill out correctly after.. and take her dose of AK N P Jem juice ..and give some good seeds.and I will def get some piks of the roots 4 ya.

I'd like to see those pics too... starting to think we have an ideal ratio between root depth and width.. would love to find what the best combo is.... besides the obvious.. HUGE and outdoor in the SUN! lol

Ahh yeah in da sun would be nice I still have to try a auto here..I have no idea on how they would do on 12/12..i did put some PJ beans in a field but havent went to see if they popped up.

Yeah, cant wait for the climate to co-operate again... 20 degrees here ATM and over a foot of snow on the ground... a little tough... under 9 hrs 30 mins sunlight ATM as well...
So much easier to use an existing friendly environment than to create an artificial one in a naturally unfriendly one... lol

Morning m8's....

Cheers for all the karma..I'm feeling the rosy glow.
Should know by this afternoon if a trip is needed and if so..only one of us is going..

Lean cloer to the screen m8's..gotta whisper this one coz I don't want to jinx it...
BUT...
I Think....
This is a black developing.....aggghhhh........

In fact....lean a bit closer....
I Think I have 2.......







I Think the other coloured bud on the left is starting to show signs too......

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...........Fingers Crossed.......

well where the hecks the wiggle, mossy?
sexy ladies they are my friend!

they sure look similar huh?

Morning JM...
I'm building up to it.....

just don't wanna jinx it...plants are the only thinks I get supersticious about......

sexy ladies they are my friend!

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Gotta say that anything with DC in floats my boat...
obviously DC is my "Type"...