I figured you might mention that as I haven't finished preparing the space. I'm thinking about some other reflective material like AL foil or one of those Space/Rescue Blankets) or do you consider that overkill?
The Art of The Auto
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mossys
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hydrolenny...hey m8...
just seen your posts and I was wondering if the Tric photos you posted were of the Pure JEM...?
or another of your girls..
She is high afghan dom...(this IS the pheno to watch for high smell..)
SO..
if you like an UP or MEDICAL high..take her Early..no more than 5-10% amber.
if you like a Stone..take her as late as possible...
Without a magnifier..as she goes over you will notice a Dulling of the Calyx colour..
that is your trics milky-ing up..going over..
IF you are still Not sure...test her...
do it once a week from 6 weeks..
then you will be able to recognise what "age" best meets your Taste.
I think that you still have a bit time to do a bit of leaf trimming to aid ripening/fattening.
Trim anything that you can see is blocking light penetration...
then give her a sugar feed..if poss...
Beautiful Girls m8...
just seen your posts and I was wondering if the Tric photos you posted were of the Pure JEM...?
or another of your girls..
Your White girl will mature fastest.
She is high afghan dom...(this IS the pheno to watch for high smell..)
SO..
if you like an UP or MEDICAL high..take her Early..no more than 5-10% amber.
if you like a Stone..take her as late as possible...
Without a magnifier..as she goes over you will notice a Dulling of the Calyx colour..
that is your trics milky-ing up..going over..
IF you are still Not sure...test her...
do it once a week from 6 weeks..
then you will be able to recognise what "age" best meets your Taste.
I think that you still have a bit time to do a bit of leaf trimming to aid ripening/fattening.
Trim anything that you can see is blocking light penetration...
then give her a sugar feed..if poss...
Beautiful Girls m8...
FullDuplex
Well-Known Member
I would stay away from AL foil, if you are in a complete bind i understand but this will cause hot spots. The mylar emergency blankets work real good too. Its what i have in my cab right now. After this seed run i have to clean the area really really well. I will be adding light insulation to the walls and white board to cover it. White rooms are just bright. I noticed this when i replaced the floor in my cab, after every grow i place new white plastic on the floor. It lit the place up.
43Hitman
Active Member
Thanks for the info FD, I'm going to the Hydro store today to get a more reliable ph meter. I've just been testing the water going in with General Hydroponics pH test indicator and I used to test the run-off as well, but I used a dose of molasses one time, and the plant hasn't been right since. Seems to have stained the soil or something cause my run-off now usually has a slight orange tint which really throws off the test. Maybe this helps you pin point my problem maybe not, but I'll be able to give you some accurate numbers this afternoon. If my pH is way off, I'll be flushing for sure.
budolskie
Well-Known Member
mossy heres my blueberry repotted the day since they wernt auto flower and the 12/12 has worked a treat start noticing a differnce and it only been 6 days cant wait for these babys there like 40 inch tallhydrolenny...hey m8...
just seen your posts and I was wondering if the Tric photos you posted were of the Pure JEM...?
or another of your girls..
Your White girl will mature fastest.
She high afghan dom...(this IS the pheno to watch for high smell..)
SO..
if you like an UP or MED high..take her Early..no more than 5-10% amber.
if you like a Stone..take her as late as possible...
Without a magnifier..as she goes over you will notice a Dulling of the Calyx colour..
that is your trics milky-ing up..going over..
IF you are still Not sure...test her...
do it once a week from 6 weeks..
then you will be able to recognise what "age" best meets your Taste.
I think that you still have a bit time to do a bit of leaf trimming to aid ripening/fattening.
Trim anything that you can see is blocking light penetration...
then give her a sugar feed..if poss...
Beautiful Girls m8...
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mossys
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Thought it would m8..things should start moving along now.
Within a couple of weeks she will be driving you mad with bud and smells.
Good width on the mainstalk m8..especialy in relation to the rootball/pot size.
If you have been on bought bud up to now...
she is gonna wipe the floor with you.
hydrolenny
Member
Mossy - Yes, the tric photo is from that PJ. What are your thoughts? I am expecting a week-ish or so to harvest, but taking advice from the experts out there. Love the plant! My DWC one, although green, has blown up and will give a pretty good harvest, but I love this one and the purple color to it!
budolskie
Well-Known Member
on white rhino from a good sorce which is cream everytime but just 1.7 for your £20If you have been on bought bud up to now...
she is gonna wipe the floor with you.
mossys
Active Member
My Thoughts are...that you just made me Very Happy....thank you...
pure JEM is the only girl I don't have Tric photos of..
(I only had a hand held magnifier at the time)
so seeing them made my day.
Yup..she got my eye straight away..
....Iron Lungs had a very similar pheno..and he loved her..
and your Purple is a dream..she made Me smile.
Well grown m8..delight to see.
Tric close-ups are still very clear...7-10 days..IMO.
What did you capture the trics with..digital mircoscope...?
hydrolenny
Member
I was thinking of harvesting this weekend, so that sounds like I am guessing about right.
Yeah, I picked up a 25x-300x cheap digital scope online ($25 US) which does the trick for the up-close stuff.
I'll snap a newer pic of the DWC girl and post tonight. She is fattening up pretty good, but I love all of the buds on that plant. Should be a good amount to harvest.
BUT, I still prefer my smaller purple Jem. I am not in it for the quantity. I love the small size and purple coloring. I wish I had a PJ male so I could pollinate this one, but these were my first two PJ seeds and both were female. I have a few more seeds to play with, so hopefully I can get a male and another purple Jem to pollinate.
FullDuplex
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Check your PM's
FullDuplex
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Sounds to me that you have a little more luck with the colors than i do. My first JEM was a white pheno that wiped the floor with me and a great yielder. I too am about the quality and med effect rather than the amount. If i can sustain my needs as well as the Mrs i am good to go. I just did a seed run on my PJ's i got lucky in the color department this time though. I had a a male that changed color on the sacs for me so i used him to pollinate with. He had nice tight stamen and the head was nice and square looking. I hoping with the color as well as the stamen i see some nice offspring.
I harvested some of that male pollen as it deff had a color dominate gene in it. Hoping to pass this along for a year to come. Got it in the freezer.
hydrolenny
Member
Mostly luck, although I had done my homework prior to this, so I had a good gameplan going into the grow, not that it had anything to do with getting that purple Jem. My setup is pretty small, so I can only grow about 2 or 3 plants at a time, so pollinating takes some patience (as far as getting the male/female I want to breed).Sounds to me that you have a little more luck with the colors than i do.
I harvested some of that male pollen as it deff had a color dominate gene in it. Hoping to pass this along for a year to come. Got it in the freezer.
I followed your first Jem grow on here and another site, so I remember that white pheno. Still was a nice plant!
I DID have some Lowryder pollen and I tried pollinating a couple low buds on the purple Jem, but that wont, of course, help lock down that purple pheno. Figured I would just get more seeds for the hell of it, but who knows.
FullDuplex
Well-Known Member
Ok Mossy got one to pick your brain with.
I know that most of your med research has been about nerve pain. I briefly touched about my oral pain and there is something else that i am looking to ease other than that.
Yesterday you asked me to keep the results on note from lady D, well she too has a specific issue that i would like to address.
Currently she has to have back injections to ease these "nodules" on her back
They are a lower back issue and Im looking to find something to take the pain
rather than the shots that she is having to deal with.
Right now ALF seems to ease the pain but not all the way
BudWider made her just forget about them but not remove the pain all together.
Is there anything that i need to look for hyb wise to hone in the two of these?
Im thinking about crossing the two to see if this alone may produce the result i am looking for.
I know once i get my hands on that scope i will be able to look closer at the plant for certain kinds
of indications to certain traits. Like the hairs that produce the oils i saw on some of your
close up pics in BH's thread. This will allow me to get scent as well as look and tric formation down to a science
I can tell that the incense pheno does best with the pain from the ALF
and the skunky pheno is out standing on the BW for the mental part
I would like to see what specific tratis these produce to recreate the effect but blend the two.
This way i feel i will be able to breed towards the goal. Any thoughts?
I know that most of your med research has been about nerve pain. I briefly touched about my oral pain and there is something else that i am looking to ease other than that.
Yesterday you asked me to keep the results on note from lady D, well she too has a specific issue that i would like to address.
Currently she has to have back injections to ease these "nodules" on her back
They are a lower back issue and Im looking to find something to take the pain
rather than the shots that she is having to deal with.
Right now ALF seems to ease the pain but not all the way
BudWider made her just forget about them but not remove the pain all together.
Is there anything that i need to look for hyb wise to hone in the two of these?
Im thinking about crossing the two to see if this alone may produce the result i am looking for.
I know once i get my hands on that scope i will be able to look closer at the plant for certain kinds
of indications to certain traits. Like the hairs that produce the oils i saw on some of your
close up pics in BH's thread. This will allow me to get scent as well as look and tric formation down to a science
I can tell that the incense pheno does best with the pain from the ALF
and the skunky pheno is out standing on the BW for the mental part
I would like to see what specific tratis these produce to recreate the effect but blend the two.
This way i feel i will be able to breed towards the goal. Any thoughts?
FullDuplex
Well-Known Member
I hear ya i have a little more room in my main room to grow out a few plants i could do 8-10 in 2gal pots if i want and if i go down to 1 gal i can squeeze more in there, but right now it was a breeding chamber all the way. I have completed a breeding box so to speak to allow open pollination. This way i dont have to paint the branches in my main box with all the females. Some times even after spraying down the branches some pollen has got loose in the past.
Something i would suggest is a tub style grow. Mossy does a good deal of breeding this way. Even though there is one pot you can have several AF's in one location. Allowing better selection for breeding in the same area. One 20L planter would be awesome.
Thank you sir, and i thought i had seen this name before. She was quite the stunner and surprise for my first AF.
You never know what you are going to get in the off spring at first. You may get some purple to carry over. Mossy has told me that the female seems to dominate some times. This may be a lucky thing for you, as you have a very vibrant purple there so it may carry to the f2's, now if you make f3's from the seeds you'll be in selection heaven.
43Hitman
Active Member
okay so I went out and bought a Milwaukee pH51 today and calibrated it per the instructions. Then I started my flush like you said FD and these are my results:This is classic Magnesium deficiency, as you can see on the leaves the color is changing from outside tips to the middle. The leaf almost looks "highlighted." As it progresses the leaf will die and turn brown as you are seeing in the lower leafs. This happens as a result of a few different things. One its either a pH lock out or the soil has been depleted of this resource. If your pH is out of range then the plant cant get to the Magnesium that it needs in flower, if the soil is out of magnesium then you need to add it.
So what you need to do is first flush. Best thing you can do is get what is in there out, this will allow the pH to balance if its off as well as get all the salts out of your soil. On the first flush test the run off pH if its out of range than you need to get it where it needs to be. If the pH is normal you are going to have to add Magnesium to the soil. The best way to do this is add 1tsb of epsom salt to a gal of plain pH'ed water. Feed it this until you see the problem stop. Now be cautious not to over do it as this IS a salt and cause problems if you use to much. So about every other water till it stops.
Let me know how they are doing and hope all goes well and we get it stopped. Look at the chart below to find the pH range needed. If you have time post up the the numbers you are getting for pH as i am always curious.
g/l
First flush- 6.6 in 6.3 out
2nd flush- 6.6 in 6.3 out
3rd flush- 6.9 in 6.35 out
4th flush- 6.9 in 6.4 out
5th flush- 6.9 in 6.4 out
Total on these flushes equals about 1 1/2 gallons of pH'd distilled water
Round 2
1st flush- 7.0 in 6.5 out
2nd flush- 7.0 in 6.6 out
okay so it seems that I have it stabilized now. So since I don't have any epson salt at the moment would MagiCal work now that I have the pH right? Or should I wait and get some epson salt tomorrow and just use that. Thanks so much for your help in this thread FD.
FarmingNinja
Member
does anyone here have any expierence with the strains from 7 dwarfs? i was looking at colossus and cyclops more specifically but they all seem interesting. hard to just go off their marketing hype though and the price is a little steep to just blindly test it out (for a poor guy like me, anyway) i was thinking of getting an non-fem strain from elswhere to breed with since they only seem to offer femenized.
any expierences/thoughts/opnions are greatly appreciated.
Colossus was created by crossing Lowryder 2 with Maxi Gom. The result is a monstrous automatic, producing resin all over its huge main cola. Colossus impresses with a sweet pineapple aroma and exotic taste. Easy to grow and although slightly taller than our other strains.
Colossus can be grown alongside any of our 7 Dwarfs.
Name: Collosus
Sex: 100% Female
Type: Autoflowering Dwarf
Flowering period: 9 weeks from seed
Yield: 55 grams plus per plant
Characteristics: Huge yields on a single cola
Developed from the original Lowryder and a truly exceptional AK-47, Cyclops may well be our favourite strain. It is certainly our most potent. Impressing with its vigorous growth, huge yields, fierce aroma and a crushing high, Cyclops is a plant that has to be seen to be believed. During flowering, pistols appear in their thousands, when approaching maturity Cyclops explodes with crystals.
If you're looking for a high yield autoflowering plant with a powerful high then Cyclops has to be a contender.
Cyclops can be grown alongside any of our 7 Dwarf range.
Name: Cyclops
Sex: 100% Female
Type: Autoflowering Dwarf
Flowering period: 9 weeks from seed
Yield: 50 grams plus per plan
Characteristics: Bushy resin-encrusted buds
any expierences/thoughts/opnions are greatly appreciated.
Colossus was created by crossing Lowryder 2 with Maxi Gom. The result is a monstrous automatic, producing resin all over its huge main cola. Colossus impresses with a sweet pineapple aroma and exotic taste. Easy to grow and although slightly taller than our other strains.
Colossus can be grown alongside any of our 7 Dwarfs.
Name: Collosus
Sex: 100% Female
Type: Autoflowering Dwarf
Flowering period: 9 weeks from seed
Yield: 55 grams plus per plant
Characteristics: Huge yields on a single cola
Developed from the original Lowryder and a truly exceptional AK-47, Cyclops may well be our favourite strain. It is certainly our most potent. Impressing with its vigorous growth, huge yields, fierce aroma and a crushing high, Cyclops is a plant that has to be seen to be believed. During flowering, pistols appear in their thousands, when approaching maturity Cyclops explodes with crystals.
If you're looking for a high yield autoflowering plant with a powerful high then Cyclops has to be a contender.
Cyclops can be grown alongside any of our 7 Dwarf range.
Name: Cyclops
Sex: 100% Female
Type: Autoflowering Dwarf
Flowering period: 9 weeks from seed
Yield: 50 grams plus per plan
Characteristics: Bushy resin-encrusted buds
SmokeyDeHerb
Member
hey all.
Not been able to post for a while as i dropped my laptop and have only just repaired it
, not had mch to report on really anyway apart from ALOT of bushy growth. Then today have finally spotted a few little pistles 
Her are some pics. Do you think i need to thin her out a bit, or should i wait a while yet?
Got on to nirvana about her not auto flowering and they're sending me some short rider beans by way of compensation, now that's customer service
BTW, glad that arse guitarjon seems to have disapeared. He obviously knew a fair bit, but man that guy was a dick, way to crash the party and make everyone hate you
Good to see you guys were civil towards him anyway, no need to stoop to his level
Not been able to post for a while as i dropped my laptop and have only just repaired it
, not had mch to report on really anyway apart from ALOT of bushy growth. Then today have finally spotted a few little pistles Her are some pics. Do you think i need to thin her out a bit, or should i wait a while yet?
Got on to nirvana about her not auto flowering and they're sending me some short rider beans by way of compensation, now that's customer service
BTW, glad that arse guitarjon seems to have disapeared. He obviously knew a fair bit, but man that guy was a dick, way to crash the party and make everyone hate you
Good to see you guys were civil towards him anyway, no need to stoop to his level
This is a great thread. I am currently growing 2 fem white dwarf as they are currently 15 days old and doing quite well considering this is my first grow. Quite surprised as they are already showing pistils. Some folks just dont have the means for a huge setup and this is the kind of information us auto growers need, especially noobs! Keep up the good work guys as I am tuned in.