TGA Agent Orange. Have you smoked/grown it?

ive grown a few strains that were "anti-anxiety" by definition at attitude but none worked how i wanted.


i have bad anxiety and want something to put a smile on my face. a high that doesnt cause me to think in depth or have racy thoughts. ive gotten some street bud back in the day that was perfect for me but unfortunately i had NO IDEA what its called.

but then i got lucky (or so i think)

i tried some bud that someone told me was called "agent orange" that was PERFECT for me. when i smoked it i got this feeling like i was relaxing on a beach in complete solitude. it was nice. im assuming if it was agent orange it was from TGA as its the only agent orange commercially available. if you've grown agent orange help me out with this...

is it anti-anxiety to you? or powerful and racy?

im looking for an all day anti-anxiety strain and dont feel like ordering and waiting 3 months to see what happens without at least getting some confirmation here.

it's basically renamed california orange, possibly bred with something else. if you really want TGAs happiest strain, read up on jillybean here:
https://www.rollitup.org/smoke-reports/451875-uncured-tga-subcool-jillybean-smoke.html
& here
https://www.rollitup.org/smoke-reports/319997-subcool-tga-jillybean-smoke-grow.html

that one was bred specifically for euphoria, a keyword you should use if you want to research other strains. jillybean, like skunk #1 & blueberry is going to be stony with it's euphoria too.

my favorite euphoric strain would be mandala's 8 miles high because it has a totally neutral energy profile that's neither stony nor racy. it's a very "clean" high you can do activities on or chill out. i really liked the precise body control part of it's buzz and how much it liked music and dancing. it has a little bit of psychoactivity though so it might not be right for people that get paranoid easily. if you ever want to try getting high, it's a nice beginner strain.

DNA's lemon skunk is nice too. it's euphoric, but less stony than skunk #1 and not very psychoactive.

if you ever DID want a racy euphoric strain, just try sitting still on kali mist! it's super happy and speedy too.

if you really want to get blissed out, there's always shrooms too. i was given a handful at a concert by a dude i hooked up with 3rd row seats for his friends. it was a really happy experience. i was surprised that there were no sensory effects like trippy weed strains or acid have, but it was an awesome happy feeling like everything in the universe was just right. i walked home in the rain getting soaked and just didn't care. i don't know if that's something anyone should do on a regular basis though or if it could go the other way too. trippy highs can really turn into bummers in bad situations. that was the only shroom trip i've taken, but it WAS really happy in that spiritual way you hear people describe shrooms and peyote

hope something here helps.

oh yeah... if you don't want a skunky strain, agent orange is funky. i wanted to grow it myself until i found that out.

"there's always shrooms too. i was given a handful at a concert by a dude i hooked up with 3rd row seats for his friends. it was a really happy experience. i was surprised that there were no sensory effects like trippy weed strains or acid have, but it was an awesome happy feeling like everything in the universe was just right."

Yeah I eat load of shrooms, they are NOTHING like weed.
I use to eat them every day, you will learn ever shroom ride is different, some good, some down right horrible.

hey man withthe plan i think you had it right to begin with roll with it

the smoke reports seem dead on what im looking for @ hazey grapes.

i'll probably buy a few regs thru pick and mix from attitude on my next order. i guess ill start with jilly bean instead of agent orange. most grow reports ive read over agent orange dont speak to this happiness attribute im looking for so i figure i might as well start with one that DOES seem to have that effect. thanks a bunch hazey

i'm growing one now, grew 10 before this one, its in my top 4 favorite hybrids from tga along with chernobyl, 3D and Vortex.

I've smoked a enjoyed Agent Orange. It smelled just like Cali O, skunky orange. When smoked it had a more lemony flavor like the JTR.

MrMisterz said:

Yeah I eat load of shrooms, they are NOTHING like weed.
I use to eat them every day, you will learn ever shroom ride is different, some good, some down right horrible.

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like eating a 1/4 of blue ringers then watching the people fighting outside turn into orcs from lord of the rings? I was freaking out. Not to mention getting a ride home from some PIGS who picked me up casue I looked like I needed help. Hahahahaha. what an episode.



About Agent ORange! no! no Anti-Anxiety at all. maybe the pheno you had was nice, but out of the pack that I grew, 4 of the 4 females had a heavy effect from Jack The Ripper (JTR) which is causes anxiety and paranoia.
Agent Orange is like an orange JTR that isnt as potent. I still found it to cause racy thoughts and had frequent anxiety and paranoia. Friggin awesoe strain, just not what you are looking for IMO.

Honestly, it really is dependent by person and by the strain and the pheno.

My thinking is you should look for an Hybrid-Indica strain that allows you to function during the day. i.e. Bodhis Jabbas Stash or Blue Tara, Subcools Querkle or Qrazy Train, the Flav. etc. mentioned above, there are Hybrid Skunk strains should also help your needs (just not agent orange, i dont recommend you buy a pack if you want antianxiety meds). or Mr. Nice Medicine Man!

My Personal Recommendations: Medicine Man aka White Rhino,Blue Tara, Querkle

find the purple pheno, its the one i'm running now. takes just under 10 weeks to flower, smells like orange ice pop, tastes straight orange and sweet. there are some problems with late flower male stamen, on a few plants, the Orange skunk tosses sterile nanners. had to run through a ten pack and a new 5 pack to get the pheno i wanted but stable enough without going herm week 7-8. not crazy potent but very up and racy(depending on JTR dominance), wake and bake material. this strain shares the Orange skunk mom with Jillybean, and they both display similar Purple-Orange phenotypes, some toss nanners but those that don't are pretty good headstash. its a better high than jillybean, just not as much bag appeal.

i'm growing one now, grew 10 before this one, its in my top 4 favorite hybrids from tga along with chernobyl, 3D and Vortex.

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how's that third dimension? that's the next TGA strain i want to try as i was interestes in his apollo 13 and wanted to get something like JTR but i don't do strains that celebrate the dark side.

if you want a mellower trippy TGA strain, try jack's cleaner 2. normally, i can't stand stony strains and that one has a stony edge, but not a KO stone. it's functional. it balances that "body weight" with a super cool warm & fuzzy kind of euphoria that's touch feely too. i love that effect! it's similar to the way onyx got me playing footsie with myself, only i just got into massaging my arms and chest. it just felt soooo good! i would definitely want to bring some JC2 on a date. it was also the most visual indoor strain i've tried too. i would expect that to be less racy & paranoid than JTR which sounds more old school. i'm getting to the point now where i like hybrids that have a little stone, but that don't put you to sleep. IBLs can get twitchy, especially in social situations.

i can't speak to CH9's jack 33 yet, but it's described as very euphoric too. i really liked their jack when i sampled it last year. it was potent with a middy stone, but functional, and had nice euphoria. i was expecting it to be way stonier as it looked like a straight up indica lowryder with it's fat leaves, but it wasn't skunky or stony. i was very impressed by it, but it was overshadowed by sweet haze & JC2 in the grow, but i bought it again along with jack 33 for further testing. the jack would be greatfor shrinking IBLs without adding skunk or the kind of afghani stone that messes even 75% sativa skunk #1 up. it should be really good for shrinking strains, and is my kinda cash cropping strain. it's when a strain puts you to sleep or gives you body lock that you don't want to even reach for a remote that i get whizzed off. i think the J33 might be even better.

glad to have helped. i bought a single jillybean i was thinking of using as a breeder if i got a male, but it didn't make it as i crammed my humidity dome as tightly as i could with a bunch of pellets that were hard to keep just the right moisture so some plants dried out and other got mold. i might try it again in the future, but third dimension sounds cooler.

mr nice's medicine man is supposed to be awesome. some member here that has tried literally dozens of strains put it in his top 5. the nirvana white rhino knockoff used to be their hottest strain, at least back in '05, but i see a lot of people saying their quality is starting to slip (old genetics waning?) and they've always had a bad rep for their fems and autos. if you just want to get some cheap beans and grow some bud, you should be able to at least do that, but for about the same price, sannie's gear is world class and for just a couple bucks more, mandala is solid too.

MrMisterz said:

Yeah I eat load of shrooms, they are NOTHING like weed.
I use to eat them every day, you will learn ever shroom ride is different, some good, some down right horrible.

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i would really worry about becoming a burnout like many deadheads doing harder hallucinogens on a regular basis. i bet a lot depends on just what kind of shrooms you do too. i think the ones i tried were PFtek's original strain. cubensis strains are generally considered safer while panaceus (? sic?) or whatever the more potent type is can be toxic. i remember a classmate telling me shrooms make you really sick, but the ones i had tasted like you could put them on a pizza, and i had nothing but a happy time. dosage probable matters too

where i live we get shrooms aug-sept season 1 then a later second crop around november.

Their ok when your young or a now n then thing as if you have 100 liberty caps today you will need to use 200 tomorrow. or your going to have a dirty trip. Yes dirty farty,sweaty shroomy feeling is not nice. Their stromg shrooms though eat 100 gets you full visuals, eat 50 and your mellowing out like the mildest acid

ah, the liberty caps!!!!
used to hunt those when I lived in Eugene!!
fun, fun

holy crap! 50+ doses! i only had about a dozen whatever caps. that's probably why there weren't any visuals then. itell you though, i REALLY wanted to build on it with some columbian unobtanium.

it's all good. now that i've had the chance to sample some nice weed strains cash crappers refuse to grow, as well as doing it now when there's finally haze & hybrids available with some IBLs here and there, jack's cleaner 2, sweet haze & haze x skunk are all "good enough" as far as trippy goes and each has it's own distinctive personality. i can't wait to try anything better though. sannie's jack f7 ought to be REALLY nice & i liked CH9's extra indy looking jack well enough so jack 33 should be decent and live up to it's euphoria description and the third dimension sounds interesting, especially if i could get a pina colada pheno.

that's the kinda stuff cash crappers would hate to compete against. the better the gear, the less it's "about the money". anything i've blazed that's gotten me high. just about, since 1987 ir so has always been free! kali mist, durban poison, a "mystery gold", & mendocino madness, i think. whoever blazed me out with that kind said it was mendo. i don't care about money either, i just want what the purveyors of depression ain't purveying.

hazey grapes said:

how's that third dimension? that's the next TGA strain i want to try as i was interestes in his apollo 13 and wanted to get something like JTR but i don't do strains that celebrate the dark side.

if you want a mellower trippy TGA strain, try jack's cleaner 2. normally, i can't stand stony strains and that one has a stony edge, but not a KO stone. it's functional. it balances that "body weight" with a super cool warm & fuzzy kind of euphoria that's touch feely too. i love that effect! it's similar to the way onyx got me playing footsie with myself, only i just got into massaging my arms and chest. it just felt soooo good! i would definitely want to bring some JC2 on a date. it was also the most visual indoor strain i've tried too. i would expect that to be less racy & paranoid than JTR which sounds more old school. i'm getting to the point now where i like hybrids that have a little stone, but that don't put you to sleep. IBLs can get twitchy, especially in social situations.

i can't speak to CH9's jack 33 yet, but it's described as very euphoric too. i really liked their jack when i sampled it last year. it was potent with a middy stone, but functional, and had nice euphoria. i was expecting it to be way stonier as it looked like a straight up indica lowryder with it's fat leaves, but it wasn't skunky or stony. i was very impressed by it, but it was overshadowed by sweet haze & JC2 in the grow, but i bought it again along with jack 33 for further testing. the jack would be greatfor shrinking IBLs without adding skunk or the kind of afghani stone that messes even 75% sativa skunk #1 up. it should be really good for shrinking strains, and is my kinda cash cropping strain. it's when a strain puts you to sleep or gives you body lock that you don't want to even reach for a remote that i get whizzed off. i think the J33 might be even better.

glad to have helped. i bought a single jillybean i was thinking of using as a breeder if i got a male, but it didn't make it as i crammed my humidity dome as tightly as i could with a bunch of pellets that were hard to keep just the right moisture so some plants dried out and other got mold. i might try it again in the future, but third dimension sounds cooler.

mr nice's medicine man is supposed to be awesome. some member here that has tried literally dozens of strains put it in his top 5. the nirvana white rhino knockoff used to be their hottest strain, at least back in '05, but i see a lot of people saying their quality is starting to slip (old genetics waning?) and they've always had a bad rep for their fems and autos. if you just want to get some cheap beans and grow some bud, you should be able to at least do that, but for about the same price, sannie's gear is world class and for just a couple bucks more, mandala is solid too.

i would really worry about becoming a burnout like many deadheads doing harder hallucinogens on a regular basis. i bet a lot depends on just what kind of shrooms you do too. i think the ones i tried were PFtek's original strain. cubensis strains are generally considered safer while panaceus (? sic?) or whatever the more potent type is can be toxic. i remember a classmate telling me shrooms make you really sick, but the ones i had tasted like you could put them on a pizza, and i had nothing but a happy time. dosage probable matters too

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ive grown the jack 33 from ch9. i was super let down because i got a bad seed. i mean dont get me wrong it grew...but it was ugly looking and from jump street it had nothing bud problems even though the rest of my plants were perfectly happy. the p.h. was right...everything...so idk i figure i got a bad seed through pick and mix. hopefully you have better results. i bought it because of how everyone describes jillybean....a happy high. happy high strains are always so hard for me to find because not many have that effect on me. lol

ill give jack 33 another go around soon.

sorry to hear you got a bum jack 33. was it a UFO? that might have been where i got my 1st one. UFOs might be how some breeders unload their old stock before it becomes useless. i know BOTH pack of durban skunk i got from gypsy were 0% and then there's that super lemon i wasn't impressed with either.

i didn't get my jack 33 to grow either, but attribute it more to a bad start from me cramming my humidity down with peat pellets that are really hard to keep the right moisture. you forget to water one day, they dry out, if that doesn't happen, beansthat take too long to pop suffer from mold.

i've had TERRIBLE luck with barney's laughing buddha too. the 1st time i tried it, it didn't pop, but that was before i had my heating mat & dome and had problems with EVERYTHING, but the 2nd time i tried it, it got caught up in the hole i dropped the seed in and snapped itself in 2. just going by the name and description, that should be a euphoric strain too. i wish i could verify for everyone. if i were paranoid, i'd say someone was sabotaging my grows. LOL

i'll report on jack 33 by winter hopefully unless something else goes wrong. it's always something. the CH9 jack was euphoric enough though.

hazey grapes said:

sorry to hear you got a bum jack 33. was it a UFO? that might have been where i got my 1st one. UFOs might be how some breeders unload their old stock before it becomes useless. i know BOTH pack of durban skunk i got from gypsy were 0% and then there's that super lemon i wasn't impressed with either.

i didn't get my jack 33 to grow either, but attribute it more to a bad start from me cramming my humidity down with peat pellets that are really hard to keep the right moisture. you forget to water one day, they dry out, if that doesn't happen, beansthat take too long to pop suffer from mold.

i've had TERRIBLE luck with barney's laughing buddha too. the 1st time i tried it, it didn't pop, but that was before i had my heating mat & dome and had problems with EVERYTHING, but the 2nd time i tried it, it got caught up in the hole i dropped the seed in and snapped itself in 2. just going by the name and description, that should be a euphoric strain too. i wish i could verify for everyone. if i were paranoid, i'd say someone was sabotaging my grows. LOL

i'll report on jack 33 by winter hopefully unless something else goes wrong. it's always something. the CH9 jack was euphoric enough though.

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my jack 33 wasnt a ufo i bought 1 through pick & mix @ attitude. it pop'd fine and everything but once it got its first set of leaves it was issue after issue and i couldnt figure it out for the life of me. i saw it through to harvest for the hell of it but i cant really judge the smoke since it didnt come out right. buds were ultra fluff (from it having so many issues the whole way through) and it obviously wasnt too potent since it suffered so much.

i'd like to give it another spin though. its the first and only thing ive grown from ch9 but im curious to try more.

ive never use a dome/pellets i just go ghetto and get a plate...take 2 sheets of a paper towel and fold them over (to look like one) and put it on the plate...spray it so it gets wet...put the seed in the middle...take another 2 sheets and fold it over so it looks like one sheet then put it on top and mist the whole thing till i have a small puddle of water.

then i put it in a grocery bag and wrap it up and put it in a drawer and check twice a day and mist as needed.

thats as sophisticated as my germination process goes. for awhile i was just tossing seeds in soil and keeping the middle slightly moist until germination. i surprisingly had 10-12 germ successfully in a row using that method before one didnt lol. with the paper towel i have even better luck.

i always wanted to try laughing buddha too! for the looks in the pics you see on seedbank websites and for the fact it supposed to be happy weed. the ultimate happy weed is my goal for right now personally.

there's a TON of euphoric strains for sure. if you REALLY want the "ultimate euphoric strain", nothing i've blazed is as happy as kali mist! just try and sit still on it though! it's also the most energetic, but not paranoid as it's buzz has virtually no psychoactivity. i was actually a little pissed when i was given a gram as i'd already heard of of and as soon as the name was dropped, i took my dick out and started wagging. LOL it was the original KM too... it had a delicious crushed red pepper flavor that's now a fruity spicy flavor with the same buzz though. i wanted to trip out on tunes, but it didn't have any visual or auditory trippy effects and was too racy on top of it. i ended up cleaning my apartment on it humming don't worry, be happy. i begged and pleaded to score some weight the next time i saw my sister's BF and gave up bidding at $120 for an eighth. as speedy as it's freakin' buzz is, it sure takes it's time getting there though at 17 weeks +, but good things come to those who wait. C99 is similar, though not as intense and takes no more than 45 days. i like both buzzes, but a little more CBD to keep you functioning at least at normal speed with some sensory effects that make everything just a little funner is better. i'd go for mellower apollo 11 (or 13 from TGA) before C99 again, but cindy and kali are awesome work strains. you can keep busy and happy on those without being confused and stupid or paranoid & jumpy.

ive never use a dome/pellets i just go ghetto and get a plate...take 2 sheets of a paper towel and fold them over (to look like one) and put it on the plate...spray it so it gets wet...put the seed in the middle...take another 2 sheets and fold it over so it looks like one sheet then put it on top and mist the whole thing till i have a small puddle of water.

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i'm not a fan of the paper towel method. it's too easy to get mold with that. i've always liked the 2 day soak method where you just get a cup of water, labelled if you're doing more than one strain, soak your beans 24 hours, then tap the ones that will sink to the bottom and then put them in pellets or even 16oz cups after another 24 hours. cups are ideal as you give your beans a nice moisture buffer, but they eat up space if you have a dome. i won't pop beans without a humidity dome anymore as i've found cold rooms seriously stunt beans so some won't even pop. did you grow the jack 33 in winter? that could have been part of the problem, it got a sickly start. it wouldn't surprise me to know that the cold that was keeping a lot of beans from popping the year before last was also the reason my super cali haze didn't fully root.

when i've done bagseed grows especially with old stock that's barely viable anymore, i always liked filling a bowl with soil, spreading the seeds out on the surface... too close, and you get mold spreading quickly, and just covering them with a thin layer of dirt after a 2 day soak. i'm not sure, but i think when i originally read that tech, the writer i learned it from mentioned putting a drop of bleach in the water too, but don't quote me on that. i'm not a fan of puddles of water. that's when i get mold in pellets the most.. totally soaked pellets. going back to cups should solve the drying AND mold problems. oh yeah... i actually use a 2 cup method with the inner one having drainage holes punched in the bottom to prevent carpet staining. it wouldn't be an issue in a dome though and would offer better root circulation too.

once i asked a shop owner about cold stunting, he verified and the $30 - $40 i spent on a dome and heating mat was one of the best investments i ever made after $15 or so for a moisture meter. my results turned back to nearly 100% though cups would have fixed the mold/dry out issues from cramming too many plants at once in just pellets. i'm going to buy another one and go back to direct to cups planting and stagger my starts by a week at a time as needed to use cups. it's a little extra money, but worth it making happy little sprouts.

Themanwiththeplan..... I've grown and smoked plenty of Agent Orange over the years, and it's a decent smoke, but not an anti-anxiety smoke.
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For truly mellow / chill weed, with no eyelid dropping action, go with Cantaloupe Skunk. You can read the strain description, plus a few grow & smoke reports about it, on Breedbay.
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my Agent orange is now week 5 into flower, smells like sour cream and Tangerines... took 5 clones, pretty late into flower but i definitely going to try it indoors with my creamcicle pheno.