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Kushash

Kushash

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PSUAGRO. said:
The og crew that was here in 2010, before this subforum was created, had to slug it out with the indoor section (hid). Got called all kinds of names and made fun of our Christmas lights. Ha ha, good times. Most moved on due to the trolls anyways, it doesn't matter anymore, LEDs sell themselves now;-)

Not all GMO is bad, golden rice saved millions of people's eyesight in Asia. New breeds that eliminate fungicide/pesticides could literally save the planet..... Corn, soy, with no chemical fertilization, and so on. I welcome it seeing how destructive the industry is, mega farms won't switch to organic/carbon farming till it's too late....

Yeah, just bought some high CBG hemp flower (Oregon cbd genetics)from a farm near me. 350 + hemp licenses for this bumper crop year, lots lost the bet though. Large scale farming is Not Easy! High suicide rates from crop loss due to inexperience. Very sad

We lost a good chunk (25%) to the spotted latern fly invading our state(cut field workers), befenthrin kept them in control, somewhat. Psu, Rutgers, other unis are trying to find a solution (Asian wasps?)...... Hopefully quickly.


Monsanto is a long debate, don't feel like typing it all out. Glyphosate(Roundup) was popular before GMO crops entered the market. Has a median half life of days, better than most other chem alternatives. It's been deeply studied and used for decades. Glyphosate is off patent now, a half dozen companies produce it currently. Yes, it created resistant weeds, like every other pesticide/herbicide ; same thing really, herbicide sounds nicer;-) ...... plenty of cons from it's use, nothing is perfect.
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10 years later the MSG Sphere using inside and outside LED lights.
The sphere in Vegas is supposed to be finished in 2021, another one is going to be built near London.
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bobrown14

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YOu guys and your Christmas lights. lol Yeah I've been running them forever. Gotta say in the beginning they were pretty bad.

Yeah didn't mean to bring up the Monsanto debate really.

I do understand the need for GMO food products (people starving).

My educated guess is that the fields of hemp at some point in the near future will begin to come down with some Viruses (Phytovirus) spread by vector insects (Leaf Hopper is a good one) and problems with low yield due to the virus will prompt Monsanto and others to find a GMO solution.


Cross pollination and copy right infringements could put the hemp farmers in jeopardy just like the family farmers that grew corn across the street from the GMO corn.

Its not so much that GMO is bad (wait, yes it is), its the corporations actions to take over the small farmer. Thats the ugly bad part. A company as large as Monsanto with lawyers, yeah try and steer clear.

They already have the Leaf Hopper on the run with GMO Alfalfa but thats a crop that gets cut 3-4 times a season. Hemp 1x a season. Before the cut, infestation and disease in the seeds. Viruses will be passed along in the seed.

Solution = GMO hemp and cannabis (with THC). I'm not sure I like the solution.

There's a reason why our society (USA) is obese. Over eating isn't the only reason for obesity. Allergies to bacteria in your gut that were genetically changed by GMO products. Food for thought.

The real story isn't being told I don't think.

Has there been a study about GMO corn/wheat/soy etc and its effects on human and or ruminant gut bacteria?? Yes

Yeah so not as bad as we think, maybe. I'll be passing on the GMO corn no thank you very much.

Edit: I got leaf hoppers this year. If you think spider mites are bad, these fvckers will decimate your crop and leave disease in there wake. Long after they are gone, your plants that lived are dying a slow death. I have all my clones of my keeper genetics in quarantine. Its not looking good. 1st round 20% plant death within 3 weeks. Only the strong survive. I put one into flower that seemed to fight off the virus. She's not looking that good in flower. Slow growth very few flowers showing and TBH it would have been a cull but I want to see the outcome. 1 plant does not an experiment make but its a start.
 
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PSUAGRO.

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Are you using a systemic pesticide/insecticide?, same thing really; lol... I'll stop. Yes, leaf Hoppers are destructive.

GMOs have more pros than cons, saving the planet is a big one...... People don't like change, this fixes that for mega farms that create the most damage. Plant seeds and read your crops. Still will be proactive due habits, but reapplications won't be needed by inspections= win. 3-4 generations in on chems, their not going to start rols/ no till anytime soon.

If you look at the Mississippi Delta ” dead zone" , largest ever from ag runoff. When the gulf gets red tide all year and tourism shuts down for good; federal (USDA) matters will finally be taken. Or not

Obesity is about overeating and inactivity . GMOs are used worldwide, we have the highest rates...... Cause we're lazy, broad brush stroke

Monsanto is protecting their seed patents, simple, you sign a service agreement. Don't buy their shit, easy. No one bans Apple, Google, Microsoft products when they Sue for infringements. Toxic polluters way worse , Dow, Exxon, BP, Shell,Scott's, American power, US steel, just a few..... You gonna stop using American cars, for all the crap the automotive industry did to Michigan? Look around, most major companies have questionable business tactics, Monsanto just has a bad PR firm....... Lol

Monocropping doesn't help the photovirus situation? IDK, seen those issues with heirloom, land race growers.... newer Hybrids not so much.
 
bobrown14

bobrown14

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Interesting view.

Yes on systemic pesticides in the form of Bacterias.

I tried Spinosad first on the leaf hoppers they flew (or jumped) thru that like it was shower time.

Obesity could also be from you intestines gut flora out of sink due to food allergies that you didn't think you had because when you ate the non-gmo food it was fine.

Fast forward 20 years and your gut is a mess causing inflamation of your bowels. This is much more common now than it was in the say 60s and 70s - obesity was rare.

Does red to far red light shorten harvest time. I'm thinking yes. A buddy asked me that the other day. I've been harvesting 40-50ish days on plants that I used to harvest 50-60ish days.
 
dabby duck

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When has Gmo ever been touted to feed the worlds supply, I think that is the first misnomer....Borlaugh is rolling in his grave at that kind of suggestion, :)
 
PSUAGRO.

PSUAGRO.

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bobrown14 said:
Interesting view.

Yes on systemic pesticides in the form of Bacterias.

I tried Spinosad first on the leaf hoppers they flew (or jumped) thru that like it was shower time.

Obesity could also be from you intestines gut flora out of sink due to food allergies that you didn't think you had because when you ate the non-gmo food it was fine.

Fast forward 20 years and your gut is a mess causing inflamation of your bowels. This is much more common now than it was in the say 60s and 70s - obesity was rare.

Does red to far red light shorten harvest time. I'm thinking yes. A buddy asked me that the other day. I've been harvesting 40-50ish days on plants that I used to harvest 50-60ish days.
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dabby duck said:
When has Gmo ever been touted to feed the worlds supply, I think that is the first misnomer....Borlaugh is rolling in his grave at that kind of suggestion, :)
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We're talking about the new wave of GMOs , ones that decrease pesticide, fungicide, & chem fertilization use. That is a game changer for the planet....... Go to farming conventions and ask them about changing routines, habits, they freak about yield loss! Can't fix stupid, put the blame game on other industries=== forestry, power, industrial, blah blah blah. Crops that allow you to continue your usual ways without further damaging the environment is big, like I said, it's welcomed by many.


Getting residential plot owners to stop greening up their lawns for fucking "property vanity" with chems would be a great step, good luck with that.....

Spinosad is a weak systemic, try acephate, imidacloprid or disulfoton on leaf hoppers........ Don't know their median half lives?, important on crops you inhale.

I'm not a doctor, not trying to claim I know the answers to the obesity problem......I just look at it as a general calorie intake issue. And lack of activity, fixable, with EFFORT.

Most growers would agree that a pf, pfr trigger, Emerson effect will shorten harvest time.........

Am I a fan of Monsanto? No, but they get a bad rap from overzealous bloggers, inaccurate articles focusing on a specific Target, when the actual issue is far larger industry wide phenomena ....... Imo
 
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PSUAGRO.

PSUAGRO.

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How can it be a vaping nicotine and/or canna issue? When the entire planet is doing it and is only a USA phenomena?

Makes no sense, other than American born stupidity mixed with greed
 
The Dawg

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PSUAGRO.

PSUAGRO.

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The Dawg said:
Educate Yourself And Dont Be A Stupid American :wall:

www.independent.co.uk

Vaping 'linked to 200 health problems in UK including pneumonia'

Expert warns US outbreak of lung disease linked to e-cigarettes may spread to Britain
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
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Way too few, just like here to even be a concern...... Like I said more people die from chocking on hot dogs and other daily shit than vaping nic/canna. 16 deaths since this witch-hunt began, that's a blip compared to other vices.

So how are you using cannabis these days poodle? Minds wanna know
 
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PSUAGRO.

PSUAGRO.

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The Dawg said:
I Be Vappin And A Dabbin :hug: :hump: bongsmilie :weed:
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Don't mind me, just vaping flower everyday...... With my trusty grasshopper
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captainmorgan said:
Here's a curve ball for you, don't kill the messenger lol.

www.usatoday.com

'Something has changed': People have been vaping for years but now they're dying. Could it be the devices?

Government doctors and scientists are racing to uncover the cause of the nation's lung illness outbreak related to vaping.
www.usatoday.com
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IDK, still think it's crappy thickener....... Those chinesium/alloy coils have been around a long time too, not saving money by using lead solder.
 
The Dawg

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IMHO Vitamin E Acetate Is Not The Culprit. Only 38% Of Said Samples Tested Positive. Now I Will Say This Vitamin E Acetate Is Some Nasty Azz Shit To Put In Your Lungs!!! No Thank You bongsmilie

Out of >725 samples they have 304 samples so far. The remaining samples either didn’t get to yet, or they didn’t have enough liquid to test. Some of the carts have only a very small amount of liquid so they are limited in the tests they can run.
Out of the 304 samples tested, 225 had THC and 79 had nic.
Out of the 225 THC containing samples 38% (101 samples) contained vit E acetate.
The THC in the THC samples ranged from 13%-77% with a mean of 41%.
The vit E acetate in the THC samples ranged from 23%-88% with a mean of 50%

@captainmorgan Newspapers Spread Their Own Agenda And Rarely Report The Truth And The Only Use I Can See For A Newspaper Is To Wipe Your Ass When You Run Out Of Charmin :clap:

 
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