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injinji said:
The video I posted said it cost under $1K, but I saw another that said they had bought extra batteries and it was 1200. Still cheaper than a golf cart.
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Yep the price caught my eye too, I think about $4K is the entry level price for something road worthy and equivalent of a sub compact ICE vehicle. You might be able to get a better, more useable piss pot for $2K though, with a 10KW motor and better battery, less power requirements mean less charging complications from home. If it gets folks to work and does the shopping, that's all many need and with a 3000 LFP battery charging cycle lifetime and simple electric drive train with few moving parts, some of these things could be around for a long time, the battery will last a decade under normal use.
 
Budley Doright said:
Ya I really miss him .......... :o
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The chip shortage is probably going to delay a significant number of these but expect them to be the best selling electric trucks with a support network to back them up. How's that hideous Tesla truck coming along?


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xtsho said:
The chip shortage is probably going to delay a significant number of these but expect them to be the best selling electric trucks with a support network to back them up. How's that hideous Tesla truck coming along?


www.motortrend.com

2022 Ford F-150 Lightning Revealed! The Electric Pickup Has a Shockingly Low Price, Mega Specs

Ford’s all-electric full-size pickup truck is a force of nature plugged into a best-selling lineup.
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2024 Ford F-150 Lightning Review, Pricing, and Specs

If not for its LED unibrow, it would be tough to tell the all-electric 2024 Ford F-150 Lightning pickup from the rest of its gas-powered full-size family.
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I will have to check one of these out. Looks like ford may have a winner...
 
doublejj said:
I will have to check one of these out. Looks like ford may have a winner...
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Charging it at home @220 with the internal charger will give you 13 miles per hour of charging, say 130 miles for a 10 hour overnight charge, that should keep it topped up. A power pig for sure, but if yer hauling shit and doing farm work it should work out fine, many rural trips are under 100 miles. I suppose that 400 pound capacity frunck could hold more batteries for extra range, several of the suitcase sized units I should think.
 
DIY-HP-LED said:
Charging it at home @220 with the internal charger will give you 13 miles per hour of charging, say 130 miles for a 10 hour overnight charge, that should keep it topped up. A power pig for sure, but if yer hauling shit and doing farm work it should work out fine, many rural trips are under 100 miles. I suppose that 400 pound capacity frunck could hold more batteries for extra range, several of the suitcase sized units I should think.
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the "frunk" has a drain hole.....you could fill the whole thing with beer and ice and drive to to the job site....think about it :clap:
 
doublejj said:
the "frunk" has a drain hole.....you could fill the whole thing with beer and ice and drive to to the job site....think about it :clap:
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As long as it's 400 pounds or less. Maybe the could make it the next James Bond truck with twin miniguns in the frunck to fuck the bad guys with.
 
DIY-HP-LED said:
Charging it at home @220 with the internal charger will give you 13 miles per hour of charging, say 130 miles for a 10 hour overnight charge, that should keep it topped up. A power pig for sure, but if yer hauling shit and doing farm work it should work out fine, many rural trips are under 100 miles. I suppose that 400 pound capacity frunck could hold more batteries for extra range, several of the suitcase sized units I should think.
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Car and Driver opines that pulling a 10000 pound trailer (for which it is rated) will drop mileage on a charge into double digits. With the 150 kWh pack. This is not practical for a 5th wheel tow vehicle.
So while it doesn't work as a truck (where are you gonna get 150 kWh at a rate that doesnt harm the battery which just got run down in less than 90 minutes?

Its singular advantage is that it isnt as dog butt ugly as that Tesla "Nike by Picasso" thing.

Wonder how far that thing will tow a fifth wheel on a kingpin.

And whats up with Superchargers? Fast charging is tough on a battery. Id like to see capacity and charge number on a car that has been treated nice vs. regularly Supercharged.
 
CatHedral said:
Car and Driver opines that pulling a 10000 pound trailer (for which it is rated) will drop mileage on a charge into double digits. With the 150 kWh pack. This is not practical for a 5th wheel tow vehicle.
So while it doesn't work as a truck (where are you gonna get 150 kWh at a rate that doesnt harm the battery which just got run down in less than 90 minutes?

Its singular advantage is that it isnt as dog butt ugly as that Tesla "Nike by Picasso" thing.

Wonder how far that thing will tow a fifth wheel on a kingpin.

And whats up with Superchargers? Fast charging is tough on a battery. Id like to see capacity and charge number on a car that has been treated nice vs. regularly Supercharged.
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Battery tech is moving fast and could change before the vehicle life is up, other than the battery and body rusting, EVs should last a long time. I think a connector at the rear near the trailer hitch would be useful for towed extra power on the trailer. I think a fifth wheel equipped vehicle is for heavy often long hauling and an ICE truck might be best for that for awhile, until better batteries and charging infrastructure come along.

13 miles per hour on the internal 220 charger ain't bad and a typical night's charging could give you 130 to 150 miles of range to top up the battery, enough for day to day local driving and work for many folks.
 
DIY-HP-LED said:
Battery tech is moving fast and could change before the vehicle life is up, other than the battery and body rusting, EVs should last a long time. I think a connector at the rear near the trailer hitch would be useful for towed extra power on the trailer. I think a fifth wheel equipped vehicle is for heavy often long hauling and an ICE truck might be best for that for awhile, until better batteries and charging infrastructure come along.

13 miles per hour on the internal 220 charger ain't bad and a typical night's charging could give you 130 to 150 miles of range to top up the battery, enough for day to day local driving and work for many folks.
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I believe it'll hit its figures so long as conditions are ideal: single occupant holding to the speed limit, no load on hitch or in bed, nice flat highway in good weather.

I prefer knowing the range under the worst conditions for which the vehicle is honestly rated. 10 thousand pound trailer, four cornfed pax, half a ton of gear in the bed, rainstorm and big headwind going from Bakersfield to Mt Wilson. I would like THAT figure.

And the fullrecharge time at the campsite that only does 115 volts.At say 3.5 kW available, that's two days to get back 90 minutes of motion.

So far if the truck gets used as a truck, Diesel is the compelling option imo.
 
CatHedral said:
So far if the truck gets used as a truck, Diesel is the compelling option imo
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Right now it's useful for certain specific people, but as battery tech and charging infrastructure improve, so will it's utility for more people. In ten years when they phase out ICE vehicles, EVs will be a completely different animal with ranges that exceed an ICE vehicle and fast charge times comparable to a gas fill up. At some point the government might have to step in to standardize charging points for interoperability, if the industry can't come up with it's own standards.
 
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