Synthetic vs Organic ..Why do ppl go the synthetic route?

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bguwop420

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calvin.m16 said:
The problem I have is lots of false statements like soil being easier and better at scale, if that were true every commercial grow wouldn't be using soilless. Organics are not cheaper by any means and are more prone to individualized issue and pests due to abundance of living matter.

Why wouldn't you smoke chemical fertilizer grown weed? Plants take up nutrients from the soil or growing medium in the form of ions, regardless of whether those nutrients originated from chemical or organic sources. The plant's metabolism does not differentiate between the sources of nutrients.

Also, weed grown in soil and organic tends to have a much higher heavy metal content in the final product due to it being organic and not being able to be processed and refined, which can actually create a clear argument that organics are not safer or cleaner than synthetic fertilizer.

I don't want to argue with you, just I'm trying to hopefully clear any misunderstandings you may have with the two growing styles.
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Didn't know that about the heavy metals damn
 
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conor c

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bguwop420 said:
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Didn't know that about the heavy metals damn
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For example things like certain fish based stuff or crustaceans based would/could probably test high for heavy metals if we talking organics im not under any illusions everythings perfect id avoid stuff like that for that reason myself
 
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Phytoplankton

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bguwop420 said:
Any difference in taste ?
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The nutrients taken in by the plant in organic AND synthetic grows are EXACTLY the same. The difference is the delivery. In organic grows the nutrients are made available by biological breakdown by soil microbes, in synthetic grows the nutrients are chelated to a salt and when added to water the salt disassociates making the nutrients immediately available to the plant.
 
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PopAndSonGrows

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Phytoplankton said:
The nutrients taken in by the plant in organic AND synthetic grows are EXACTLY the same. The difference is the delivery. In organic grows the nutrients are made available by biological breakdown by soil microbes, in synthetic grows the nutrients are chelated to a salt and when added to water the salt disassociates making the nutrients immediately available to the plant.
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Wellllll yes. But, here's my contention

Organic is a buffet and the plant may or may not overeat its fat face off. . .. Synthetic is the Matrix diet, lil bowls of slime fed at intervals to sustain your body optimally
 
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Phytoplankton

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PopAndSonGrows said:
Wellllll yes. But, here's my contention

Organic is a buffet and the plant may or may not overeat its fat face off. . .. Synthetic is the Matrix diet, lil bowls of slime fed at intervals to sustain your body optimally
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It’s a buffet, if you have all the building blocks already in the soil, and a healthy microbe population, otherwise it’s a starvation diet. With synths the nutrients are available to the plant whenever it needs them. Not saying one is better than the other, although generally, in my experience, you need bigger containers with organic grows, which can be an issue indoors.
 
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calvin.m16

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Common soil vs common chemical fertilizer. Also note Waste-Derived products will have a large variation in the icky numbers.

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snakedope

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The water itself probably all across the world are polluted with heavy metals, much come from the chemtrails but not all, factories contribute to that aswell
If you don't use RO and organic fert such as ewc or compost then your grow is not organic at all
The main difference between organic and synthetic (if you wanna call it like that cuz it really won't matter, a plant don't know and really don't care if an ion came from a banana peel or salts) is that organics has much more elements in them that the plant can use to create different terp and cannabinoids profiles.
plants, like humans, have different requests, each to their own liking, sure, like us, all plants need water, but not all plants will use this substance more then the other and vice versa, again, not talking about the building blocks (NPK) but it's all about expressing the uniqueness of each genetics through unlocking matabolisem procceses within it's dna.
 
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MissinThe90’sStrains

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Organics aren’t inherently toxic or full of heavy metals. Sourcing is incredibly important when it comes to organic amendments. You literally have to know where your shit comes from. Did that crab shell meal come from a third world country where they don’t have pollution control standards? Do they dump wastewater in the fishing grounds? Is your ground-up seedmeal food-grade, or is it a byproduct of a crop grown for industrial use, and possibly grown with contaminated water? What’s the heavy metal content from rock dust mined from a particular deposit? It varies greatly. Think about salt. Some is expensive and sold to yuppies at whole foods, while some is thrown on the roads by the ton to melt ice. There are a lot of different things you have to consider when it comes to cow shit, like what it was before it was cow shit, because those things can still be in there. Don't let people make you think that cow shit is automatically bullshit, because that’s just horseshit :-)
 
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