Superstoner's new 3 rail, 50gal system, 36-40oz every 2 weeks.

superstoner1 · Dec 17, 2015

Buckets get there own nutes. I run no more than 650ppm. 3-6 ounces each, depending on the strain

Mont@n@ · Jan 10, 2016

superstoner1 said:
I would like to point out that I have not cleaned a system in over a year and use no chillers or temperature control for the res's with no root issues at all. The hydroguard and pondzyme work great.

Thanks for the tips and welcome back. I'm glad to hear everything is working out for you on your personal life.

Any changes on your nutrient formula?

AlphaPhase · Jan 10, 2016

superstoner1 said:
Buckets get there own nutes. I run no more than 650ppm. 3-6 ounces each, depending on the strain

Is the 650ppm on a .500 or .700 scale?

extremepsi · Jan 16, 2016

what formula are you using for your buckets?

oceangreen · Mar 23, 2016

greencorn55 said:
Super its your old friend kenny. Looks like you've been gone for a bit, hope all is well and that you are staying safe.

To the haters...While I remain adamant that aero rails in a residential environment are an over complicated waste of time, super is absolutely the best I have ever seen run it. He knows this system better than stink bud himself and if you are looking to run a similar system you would be wise to heed his advice.

Any other old stink forum friends out there send me a holler, its been too long.

kenny!

oceangreen · Mar 23, 2016

It can be

piecemasta said:
Did he ever post any pics/proof of his setup pushing the 36-40oz he claimed?

It can be done. easily in this system 20 can be done. thats still quite good

Caribbean Hippie · Apr 26, 2016

Mont@n@ said:
i add them to each gallon of water using a feeding spreadsheet.(excel)

at the bottom is the spreadsheet for his formula in a zip file.(PBP spreadsheet)
just change strength and gallons(in red).
the mL per gallons are going to be next to the product names in black.(not the grey ones)
in his formula is 1mL of cal mag and tap water(107 ppm). i use 5 and 4mL for my ro water.

Good luck and happy growing
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Voidling · May 10, 2016

superstoner1 said:
Buckets get there own nutes. I run no more than 650ppm. 3-6 ounces each, depending on the strain

Glad you stopped in. Hope all is well

Anton Cherniavski · May 10, 2016

all kinds of shit going on in this thread, but, all in all ,Well done OP.

OGMMJ · May 12, 2016

superstoner1 said:
Tap water. Same cycle. It is aerated by the spraying. I haven't even changed the water in my cloner for three months

This would be amazing, I'm having issues if I don't change it every 3 days haha

batrgrower · Nov 8, 2016

I noticed ss and a couple other people using those strong boxes, but leaving the lids yellow and not painting them as stink suggested. Anyone have any feedback on that?

Budley Doright · Nov 8, 2016

batrgrower said:
I noticed ss and a couple other people using those strong boxes, but leaving the lids yellow and not painting them as stink suggested. Anyone have any feedback on that?

I had to cover mine with silver bubble wrap stuff to keep temps down, got up to 80 in the root zone and major rot. Mine are red though lol.

batrgrower · Nov 8, 2016

Budley Doright said:
I had to cover mine with silver bubble wrap stuff to keep temps down, got up to 80 in the root zone and major rot. Mine are red though lol.

Damn, that sucks. I've got the yellow ones. Planned on painting them as suggested by stinkbud but after seeing ss run them yellow I'm thinking about just rolling with it.

I'm hoping to have my veg and cloner put together in the next couple of days.

jpdnkstr · Nov 8, 2016

batrgrower said:
Damn, that sucks. I've got the yellow ones. Planned on painting them as suggested by stinkbud but after seeing ss run them yellow I'm thinking about just rolling with it.

I'm hoping to have my veg and cloner put together in the next couple of days.

I suggest no paint, just roll with it. I painted mine once and it all flaked off, even with sanding the plastic and using special paint. My veg area is a 27 gallon tough tote with the yellow top, sometimes in the summer I have issues with heat, but once my canopy fills in it's okay. For what it's worth I might try some of the silver bubble wrap I have some laying around but I haven't found it necessary yet. I've been running this yellow tote with sprayers in veg and then move to rails in flower for more than 5 years with great success. I've also run pro mix, coco, RDWC(undercurrent) etc. I keep coming back to the old rails they're my favorite!

I'm editing this to add a picture of the Rails

I know they're a little close together but I'm working on that, this is old-school Style just like stink bud.

batrgrower · Nov 9, 2016

jpdnkstr said:
I've been running this yellow tote with sprayers in veg and then move to rails in flower for more than 5 years with great success. I've also run pro mix, coco, RDWC(undercurrent) etc. I keep coming back to the old rails they're my favorite!

Do you have input in regards to the nute schedule? Do you run ss's suggested nutes or did you stick with stinkbud's recommendations?

jpdnkstr · Nov 9, 2016

batrgrower said:
Do you have input in regards to the nute schedule? Do you run ss's suggested nutes or did you stick with stinkbud's recommendations?

I use General Hydroponics 3 part, almost the full line, minus flora nectar and diamond nectar. I also use a root product, an enzyme product and a few other things, like botanicare cal mag(I use RO water) and MgSO4. The rails were a bit of a learning curve, and a chiller would be nice, but that's something I haven't acquired yet.

batrgrower · Nov 13, 2016

superstoner1 said:
Off the top of my head here it is.

Veg stage
700-750ppm total
PH always 5.6-5.8

Pbp grow 8ml per gallon
Silica blast 3ml per gal
Hydroguard 3ml per gal
Liquid karma 2ml per gal
Vitamino 3ml per gallon
Calmag 1ml per galgal
Half a scoop of pondzyme

I've got questions on adding nutes to the res.

Let's say I've got 20 gallons in my res. Do I just add each nute at 20 times whatever the dose is? If I do it this way and come out below the required ppm number then how do we know which nutrient to add more of? Am I missing something here?

Or can we still mix all of these nutes in a gallon jug, like stinkbud suggests, measured for 20 gallons and then pour until we reach our desired ppm?

rob333 · Nov 13, 2016

superstoner1 said:
Buckets get there own nutes. I run no more than 650ppm. 3-6 ounces each, depending on the strain

still we have not yet got any pictures of these 40 ounces every 2 weeks

Mont@n@ · Nov 13, 2016

batrgrower said:
I've got questions on adding nutes to the res.

Let's say I've got 20 gallons in my res. Do I just add each nute at 20 times whatever the dose is? If I do it this way and come out below the required ppm number then how do we know which nutrient to add more of? Am I missing something here?

Or can we still mix all of these nutes in a gallon jug, like stinkbud suggests, measured for 20 gallons and then pour until we reach our desired ppm?

there is a botanicare PBP nutrient spreedsheet on page 21. you just need microsoft excel on your computer. that spreedsheet will do the math for you.

Mont@n@ · Nov 13, 2016

batrgrower said:
I noticed ss and a couple other people using those strong boxes, but leaving the lids yellow and not painting them as stink suggested. Anyone have any feedback on that?

I use Rubbermaid Brute totes. they are very sturdy, food grade and most important they dont leak. they cost me $25. Here is the part number 20 Gal Brute FG9S3100GRAY

good luck and happy growing.

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