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Suicide

shimmer

shimmer

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Zekedogg said:
You people are nuts..........suicide is for the weak..........to even consider it is for the weak.........It not only affects you but think of the people around you........It's ignorant and selfish
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zeekeyzekeyzekeyzekeydiggetydidiggetttydawgdog. Thought you said you weren't comin' back? Y'know everybody's here ta like y'know chill on the suicide thread wow y'know. Either augment your point or fuck off.
 
tampicos

tampicos

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Johnnyorganic said:
My friend was always seen as eccentric when he was successful. But a personal tragedy pushed him over the edge and completely overwhelmed him. I understand now that he was dealing with his mental illness as best he could when times were good. When his life was turned upside down, he lost everything, including his precious grasp on sanity.

That was in 2001. He has never recovered. He lost a prestigious position shortly thereafter and bounces from job to job, assuming he can get one now. He has basically given up and is waiting to die. He does not wish to die, but sees no other alternative.

He tried to kill himself in 2001. Not too long ago, we were talking and he said to me, "John, I'm already dead. My body just hasn't figured it out.'

Do you really expect me to respond with, 'Have courage!", or '"Everybody gets the blues. Shake it off!"?
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this guy you couldn't help like that. at this point i'm suprised since he knows he's dead inside... doesn't his greatest weakness then become his greatest strength? at this point he can admit hes dead, he doesn't have to follow through with it though. be reborn...
 
Johnnyorganic

Johnnyorganic

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tampicos said:
this guy you couldn't help like that. at this point i'm suprised since he knows he's dead inside... doesn't his greatest weakness then become his greatest strength? at this point he can admit hes dead, he doesn't have to follow through with it though. be reborn...
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Good suggestion, thanks.

All I did was nod my head with a grim look on my face. I had nothing to say in response.

It is such a sad situation. To see an old, good friend deteriorate before my eyes until he became the wreck who spoke those words to me. It's heartbreaking.
 
sarah22

sarah22

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i know how it feels to be dead mentally but alive physically. i live like that every minute of everyday. it sucks. and chuck...its not cowardly or selfish to choose to die. i think its selfish of the "happy people" to say that we will be hurting all these people if we do it...its selfish to keep someone alive when they just want to die. and you're right...no mentally stable person should kill themselves. people who are severely mentally ill are so far from stable. if you went thru a rough time and you were able to pull thru...then good for you...its great that u were able to do so. but if you were able to "see a brighter day" and get better...then you were not suffering from severe mental illness. i will never be "all better". i take meds and i go to therapy to learn to cope with my disorder and emotions and all that...but i will always be mentally ill. there is no cure...there is no full recovery. and knowing that is even more depressing. for people who have not personally experienced a severe mental illness...they have no idea what its like, and no place to make judgements. not only that...but all my suicide attempts happen during a psychotic episode...in which case im not thinking at all...just reacting. im not making any choices...im just freaking right out...and i often dont remember the majority of the episode. so no chuck...im not selfish for wanting to die...other people are selfish for wanting me to stay alive even tho they know how much im hurting and how dark my mental state is.
 
Zekedogg

Zekedogg

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sarah22 said:
i know how it feels to be dead mentally but alive physically. i live like that every minute of everyday. it sucks. and chuck...its not cowardly or selfish to choose to die. i think its selfish of the "happy people" to say that we will be hurting all these people if we do it...its selfish to keep someone alive when they just want to die. and you're right...no mentally stable person should kill themselves. people who are severely mentally ill are so far from stable. if you went thru a rough time and you were able to pull thru...then good for you...its great that u were able to do so. but if you were able to "see a brighter day" and get better...then you were not suffering from severe mental illness. i will never be "all better". i take meds and i go to therapy to learn to cope with my disorder and emotions and all that...but i will always be mentally ill. there is no cure...there is no full recovery. and knowing that is even more depressing. for people who have not personally experienced a severe mental illness...they have no idea what its like, and no place to make judgements. not only that...but all my suicide attempts happen during a psychotic episode...in which case im not thinking at all...just reacting. im not making any choices...im just freaking right out...and i often dont remember the majority of the episode. so no chuck...im not selfish for wanting to die...other people are selfish for wanting me to stay alive even tho they know how much im hurting and how dark my mental state is.
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There is a cure........his name is JESUS:peace:
 
tsdriles06

tsdriles06

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sence im Christian for me its like this. Only God can give life and only God can take life away. So if you commit suicide you go against God. If you commit suicide you go to Hell. Thats what i think
 
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