Stuff that doesn't really fit in either "Examples of" thread....

doughper

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https://www.buzzfeed.com/natashajokic1/writers-strike-explained
Here Are The Shows That Will Be Affected By The Writers Strike
"Everything changed with streaming."

If you've heard reports of a writers strike and you're a tad out the loop, you're in the right place. Here are some common questions about what on earth is happening, answered.

In short, around 11,500 film and television writers represented by the Writers Guild of America are striking after failing to reach an agreement with the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers.

Who are the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers?
It's a trade association that represents huge production companies like, as the WGA points out, "Netflix, Amazon, Apple, Disney, Discovery-Warner, NBC Universal, Paramount, and Sony."

Why are they striking?
A few reasons: Some of their demands include higher minimum compensation and addressing the use of "mini rooms" — a practice where streamers will shrink the number of writers that would typically be in a writers room and hire them for short-term work, resulting in lower wages and shorter contracts. “There’s too much work and not enough pay,” one demonstrator told the Associated Press.

Why now?
This isn't out of nowhere: Talks between the WGA and the AMPTP have been breaking down over the course of weeks, and discussions of strikes started around six months ago.
A macro reason is the impact that streaming has had on working conditions for writers. Streamers have essentially eroded residuals, which used to be a significant source of income for writers. AI also factors into this — one of the demands is to, "Regulate use of material produced using artificial intelligence or similar technologies."

What shows will be affected?
Late night shows including Jimmy Kimmel Live!, The Tonight Show With Jimmy Fallon, The Late Show With Stephen Colbert, and Late Night With Seth Meyers have already halted production. SNL has finished its season early, meaning that reruns will air in the remaining three slots.
Soap operas will be the shows to be impacted more drastically next, given how fast their turnaround times are. The fall television season might also end up delayed, as writing typically starts in May or June.
One of the more subtler ways that TV and movies will be impacted is on properties that already have a finished script, but won't have a writer on hand to facilitate any necessary rewrites that may occur on set (we'll discuss this more later). One of such shows is House of the Dragon, which is going ahead on the scripts it already has.
Streamers already have content banked, and Netflix has said that it can fill any gaps with international releases. Movies are less likely to be affected in any immediate ways, given how long the production cycle for feature length projects is.
Also, in case you were wondering: News writers and reality writers are repped by a different union.
I'm a big stephen/kimmel fan, i even like seth meyer's monologues when he isn't trying to do personality impressions. I hate this shit. And note that AI's Chat GPT is gonna take over. Figure, bing's usin' ChatGPT, google says they're not, think ABC/NBC/CBS won't profit seek just like Microsoft? Gone is humanity, woe is me, woe is the entire world. No humanity, just a machine. Will we laugh at the new machine-written scripts? Will they touch that special funny bone we all have that makes us belly laugh? Will anybody even notice when all scripts and even news is all manufactured by a machine? WE ARE DOOMED!
 
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Nugnewbie

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https://www.buzzfeed.com/natashajokic1/writers-strike-explained
I'm a big stephen/kimmel fan, i even like seth meyer's monologues when he isn't trying to do personality impressions. I hate this shit. And note that AI's Chat GPT is gonna take over. Figure, bing's usin' ChatGPT, google says they're not, think ABC/NBC/CBS won't profit seek just like Microsoft? Gone is humanity, woe is me, woe is the entire world. No humanity, just a machine. Will we laugh at the new machine-written scripts? Will they touch that special funny bone we all have that makes us belly laugh? Will anybody even notice when all scripts and even news is all manufactured by a machine? WE ARE DOOMED!
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https://www.buzzfeed.com/natashajokic1/writers-strike-explained
I'm a big stephen/kimmel fan, i even like seth meyer's monologues when he isn't trying to do personality impressions. I hate this shit. And note that AI's Chat GPT is gonna take over. Figure, bing's usin' ChatGPT, google says they're not, think ABC/NBC/CBS won't profit seek just like Microsoft? Gone is humanity, woe is me, woe is the entire world. No humanity, just a machine. Will we laugh at the new machine-written scripts? Will they touch that special funny bone we all have that makes us belly laugh? Will anybody even notice when all scripts and even news is all manufactured by a machine? WE ARE DOOMED!
It seems AI will just create more economic insecurity for more people. More billionaires than ever and corporations hoarding money that don't get taxed sufficiently, lobbying for rules favorable to them. The people are forgotten. The rules need to change, but will they?
 

Nugnewbie

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Explain to me, please don't just say no. If I am misunderstanding, tell me why. I started my post with, "It seems", so I don't necessarily believe wholeheartedly that my statement is end all be all, so I would like to hear your opinion, and others too.

Besides, not sure if you simply mean things will never change. :confused:
 
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Roger A. Shrubber

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Explain to me, please don't just say no. If I am misunderstanding, tell me why. I started my post with, "It seems", so I don't necessarily believe wholeheartedly that my statement is end all be all, so I would like to hear your opinion, and others too.
here's the most succinct explanation i can make...
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Companies like apple and meta and twitter don't give one single fuck if what they do is good for people in specific or society in general, they're in it for the money. They may have once been firebrands, lighting up the skies with new tech...but they never policed that tech, they never set themselves any reasonable rules...Now they do as they will, and who the fuck is going to stop them?
the government? they haven't done fuck all so far except bitch a couple of times, which is basically a message to these people that they need to be harder to catch when they do something shitty.
Name me one time that one major tech company cancelled a plan because they thought it might be harmful to people or society in some way? Cause i can't find one instance of that...Any programs they have cancelled have been because they weren't as profitable as they were hoping they would be.
 

Nugnewbie

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here's the most succinct explanation i can make...
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Companies like apple and meta and twitter don't give one single fuck if what they do is good for people in specific or society in general, they're in it for the money. They may have once been firebrands, lighting up the skies with new tech...but they never policed that tech, they never set themselves any reasonable rules...Now they do as they will, and who the fuck is going to stop them?
the government? they haven't done fuck all so far except bitch a couple of times, which is basically a message to these people that they need to be harder to catch when they do something shitty.
Name me one time that one major tech company cancelled a plan because they thought it might be harmful to people or society in some way? Cause i can't find one instance of that...Any programs they have cancelled have been because they weren't as profitable as they were hoping they would be.
Ok, was the latter. Things won't change. I get what you are saying and agree. Sad truth.
 

Fogdog

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Let's talk about the value of reaching out to the other side....
He's not talking about reaching out to hard core MAGA. He's talking about people who can't stomach MAGA AT ALL but aren't able to accept Democratic Party policies either. They are in a hard spot. Only so much can be done to "reach out" to them. I'm willing to talk but they have to do some heavy lifting if they have been living in a Republican world where they believe Democrats are Communists.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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He's not talking about reaching out to hard core MAGA. He's talking about people who can't stomach MAGA AT ALL but aren't able to accept Democratic Party policies either. They are in a hard spot. Only so much can be done to "reach out" to them. I'm willing to talk but they have to do some heavy lifting if they have been living in a Republican world where they believe Democrats are Communists.
Most people are independents and most of them are former republicans, reaching out to them is fine, but the republicans are doing the most to persuade them. Dishonesty, J6 and Trump himself should have convinced them the most, a values driven person should have dropped them like a hot potato long ago. However, take what you can get and don't demand perfection, from them or Joe, but a lot of compromise is off the table these days, America will be one or the other as Lincoln once said.
 

buckaclark

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Most people are independents and most of them are former republicans, reaching out to them is fine, but the republicans are doing the most to persuade them. Dishonesty, J6 and Trump himself should have convinced them the most, a values driven person should have dropped them like a hot potato long ago. However, take what you can get and don't demand perfection, from them or Joe, but a lot of compromise is off the table these days, America will be one or the other as Lincoln once said.
When you come to a fork in the road take it!
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Legally they are all traitors and could be put in the tower of London and hung for treason! It is kinda like J6 for the Brits, Charles is the legal head of state and to say otherwise is treason, he is in effect the state, not merely it's head. However, those days are past, but it is in the not the too distant past and the basic law and constitution remains the same. I dunno what these people will be charged with, probably disturbing the peace or some other minor thing.

 

Fogdog

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Legally they are all traitors and could be put in the tower of London and hung for treason! It is kinda like J6 for the Brits, Charles is the legal head of state and to say otherwise is treason, he is in effect the state, not merely it's head. However, those days are past, but it is in the not the too distant past and the basic law and constitution remains the same. I dunno what these people will be charged with, probably disturbing the peace or some other minor thing.

That's quite the contrast with what happened when I attended counter protests to Trump rallies in Portland between 2017 - 2020.
 
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