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DUDE!

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hey guys sry its been awhile. good news bad news. im down to 4 plants. but it is my first grow and 4 is easy for me to make sure i give each plant enought attention topping super croppin watering ect. im so scared theyre all going to be males tho. and ive been looking trying to tell, even tho mine are only in almost 3 weeks veg at each node the the spike things at where the branch meets i can see a itttttyyy bittty thing raising up! is that seeds, meaning its male! well and i no longer have internet on my phone so i wont be able to upload pics for about 2 weeks. but they are MUCHHHHHH bigger since those last pictures, 2 ive topped, one i did twice. the other 2 im leaving alone. they are about 3 feet tall..lights r about10 inches away....its been working up til now i get scared to move it too close cuz one time a light fell right onw one plant and completly burned it up! i about cried. and i can NOT afford to lose another plnt. yes holes in bottom. and i have a fan. ph i have NOOO IDEA!!! and i know thats terrible, but i dnt get it, i dnt have money to buy ne thing! ive just been using water this whole time but theyve obviously turned out amazing!!! so if any of you all have any suggestions, id love to hear them!
Laurenash1088 THERE SHOULDNT BE ANY SEX SHOWING YET UNLESS YOU HAVE TURNED THE LIGHTS TO 12/12 PREFLOWERS SHOULDNT BE THERE. IT IS PROB NEW GROWTH. HOW TALL ARE THEY NOW? PH IS IMPORTANT. I CHECK MINE VERY SELDOM( SHAME ON ME )B/C I HAVE THE TOOLS, BUT MINES ALWAYS PRETTY GOOD. YOU CAN PICK UP A KIT AT WALMART FOR 3 OR 4 BUCKS. GOOD LUCK
 

EpyxN

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hey guys sry its been awhile. good news bad news. im down to 4 plants. but it is my first grow and 4 is easy for me to make sure i give each plant enought attention topping super croppin watering ect. im so scared theyre all going to be males tho. and ive been looking trying to tell, even tho mine are only in almost 3 weeks veg at each node the the spike things at where the branch meets i can see a itttttyyy bittty thing raising up! is that seeds, meaning its male! well and i no longer have internet on my phone so i wont be able to upload pics for about 2 weeks. but they are MUCHHHHHH bigger since those last pictures, 2 ive topped, one i did twice. the other 2 im leaving alone. they are about 3 feet tall..lights r about10 inches away....its been working up til now i get scared to move it too close cuz one time a light fell right onw one plant and completly burned it up! i about cried. and i can NOT afford to lose another plnt. yes holes in bottom. and i have a fan. ph i have NOOO IDEA!!! and i know thats terrible, but i dnt get it, i dnt have money to buy ne thing! ive just been using water this whole time but theyve obviously turned out amazing!!! so if any of you all have any suggestions, id love to hear them!
Heres a pic so that when the day comes you don't go through being sure & unsure lol. Also until you have gotten good at telling the sex early on never dismiss a plant as a male until you can really see the sack starting to push away from the stem a little. (a lot of people mis sex there plant when the first signs of pre-flowers show thinking that because they see the preflower but no hairs that its male. Hairs tend to take longer to show than the initial preflower so give it time.) :)



If you look at the illustration below you can see how a very early female preflower that has not shown its hairs yet could lead someone to beleive its a male. (very initial fem Calyx that have not shown there hairs yet are very close in resemblance to a Male preflower that has not pushed away from the stem at all yet)

 
my plants are about 3 feet tall. i moved all my lights closer. i water about every 3 days. mist twice..sometimes more..under leaves.ok now ive topped all of them instead of 2 and 2. since reading for hours and everyone says u get more from toppping.my first born, spoiled. she has 7 colas growing big and strong! idk how i managed to do it but i freaking did!i do tricks with my little scissors! gosh i wish this was a real time- full time job!!!! itd b the bestever. i mean is everybody good at growing mr bush!? i mean i tend to b good at alot of things i do but i feel like this is my calling!!! well gunna go smoke a morning bowl haha pls more and more info i can never have enough!!!!!
 

DUDE!

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GOOD WITH SISSORS. GOOD AT GROWIN BUSH. AND TEND 2 B GOOD AT ALOT OF THINGS. SOUNDS DIRTY AND DANGEROUS:shock: JK!! THE TOPPING THING?? GOOD OR BAD??MORE OR LESS?? YOU NEVER KNOW. IT IS UP TO THE STRAIN. I BELIEVE SOME DO BETTER TOPPED SOME DONT. IM DOING A TEST OUT NOW WITH MY GROW. LOOK AT IT IN MY SIG. I HAVE 2 TOPPED 1 NOT. GOING TO SEE WHICH ONES YEILD MORE. AND 3 FT TALL WOW!! HAVE YOU GONE TO 12/12 YET?? THOSE GIRLS ARE GOING TO GET BIG!! WHAT NODE DID YOU TOP THEM AT??
 
oh gosh i topped them because i didnt want them to get reallllll big. i topped at 5th or 6 node. they were about 8 inches tall when i topped them. no i still have them n veg. ive had lights on 24-7 since the very first day. but i think theyll need atleast another 3 wks n veg...theyre not ready i wnt um a little bigger and more leaves so ill b patient, its worth it.
 

DUDE!

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from the time you start 12/12 they will get about 3 times the size they are when you start 12/12 i hope you have a pretty big grow space. if there 3 feet now you can look for them to be at least 6 ft matbe 7 or 8 by the time there ready to harvest. should be some good yeilds there. good luck again
 
ok so i have a question. i just started flowering my biggest plant. 2 biggys, 2 medium. the 2 big ones even tho i JUST started flowering last night i see those little frickin balls! and everybody keeps tellin me wait wait. but i really frickin think theyre male. the 2 smaller plants already have theirs but they point up and i can see teeeeensy little hairs! is it still too soon to tell w the big plants or am i gunna b sad and have to get rid of them!!!!!!!!!! they also look diff from the smaller ones. smaller ones leaves r ALOT darker and just different. does that have ne thing to do w it like differents strains of marijuana takin longer to show signs of what sex? PLEASEEEEEEEEEEE HELLPPPPPPPPPP!
 

DUDE!

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Laurenash1088 IT IS A MUST THAT YOU WAIT.. NOT THAT YOU WONT BE SAD BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT IS WAY TO EARLY TO TELL. THERE HAVE BEEN TIME THAT I JUST KNEW I HAD MALES AND THEY TURN OUT TO BE FEMALES. THE HAIRS ARE THEY YELLOW??? MALES SHOULD SHOW FIRST BUT IF YOUR ONLY A DAYOR SO INTO 12/12 WAITING IS THE KEY OR NOT IN DANGER OF THEM POPPING THERE SACS FOR A WHILE!
 
honestly i dont know theyre light could be white? theyre VERRRYYY little i have to look verry close. but the 2 i think r female u can tell a durastic difference in what it looks like 2 have more like balls, they r more stout, very thick stems lotttts of leavesbut the other 2[females?] r darker leaves which the leaves r actually alot longer then the others more tall sparse and it almost looks more like a tear drop instead of a ball and i swear i can see like 2 little hairs comin out of one. so i dont know what to do! i mean yea it is my first time growing but my instincts about them have been right so far but i really dnt wnt them to b they r my prettiest biggest oness! which makes me verrry sad
 
and could me bein able to tell the sex a little bit sooner have ne thing to do w me keepin them n veg a little while longer then ppl usually do? that could have nothing to do w it, idk just thought i should ask
 

DUDE!

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and could me bein able to tell the sex a little bit sooner have ne thing to do w me keepin them n veg a little while longer then ppl usually do? that could have nothing to do w it, idk just thought i should ask
yes on the in veg longer. you could be seeing preflowers. males are usually a bit bigger your taller than females. the tear drop thing is right or that how i would describe it. the balls will be in clusters. the color i would think is more of a strain deal. sounds as though you are the right track. keep it up
 

DUDE!

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I hate to kill them.. I would wait b/c there not going to hurt anything for a while at lease 10 to 12 days. Plus you get to make sure that they are diff male.
 
ok will do. and im pretty sure the females r sativa. which i read can b very hard to grow. much more difficult then the indica? right? or does it really not make a difference..? what r the pros of growing sativa if any? is there ne thing i should do to them i kno i read they can b lanky and like to stretch i dont want it like that ive been topping them but i want them very dense and compact w lots of leaves like the males i know it might not b possible but i wanna try n get as close to it as i can. help!
 

DUDE!

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The first few grows that i did were just for the learning. I mean the bud was nice and very good but more than anything i just wanted it to turn out good. I didnt top or anything just get from start to finish. I really think i like the lollipop method the best its the easiest to do the harvest is easier. I think the plants are sexier and i do see that there is a big diff in yeild. You will find out and do what you like best though. You have any pics of your plants?? As far as sativa and indica growing diff. I think there about the same
 
yea im gettin alot more pics up soon. longggg story but ne who. yea ive never heard of LOLLIPOP so i will def have to read up. im the same way just wanting them to turn out good. HINTS, why i had them n veg soooo long.
 

DUDE!

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I like to turn the plant pretty fast so i only keep them in veg for 4 to 5 weeks. Idont know why yours started so slow ???? But they sound like there commin on strong.
 

DUDE!

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yes i hope so! So can u lollipop if youve topped or fimed?
no. With a lollipop plant you leave them a single cola plant and you take off the bottom 1/3 of the plant and let it focus on making a very big main cola without many other arms.. The main cola will be about 4 or 5 times as big as the tops of a topped plant..
 
wouldnt it b smarth tho since theyre males to go ahead and get rid of them so i can use the extra lights on the females, they could use it!?
 
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