Southern Hemisphere Sanity Check : Are your plants starting to flower ?

Grower Greetz from Cape Town, South Africa.

Any other locals or other Southern Hemisphere growers starting to see more pistils appearing ?

The reason I'm asking is that I've just finished sexing the last of my seedlings, and I seem to have gone into an overlap mode between:

• pre-flowers in my seedlings
• and the beginning of actual flower bud growth in my potted plants

That's why I'm calling for a sanity check from other outdoorsy folks.


I have a few stunted or 'retarded' little slow growers in 4 litre / 1 gallon black planter bags:

• they are around 20 cm / 8 inches tall
• and just now showing their first pistils or boy balls

That's compared to my already sexed females who were transplanted into 25 litre / 6 gallon super organic living soil anything up to 8 weeks ago:

• those girls are over a metre / yard tall
• and I'm noticing 3 / 4 / 5 pistils springing out of many future bud sites

It does seem a little early in the theoretical 12/12 which is 20 March in Cape Town ...
... but then I do live in the shadow of the truly majestic Table Mountain.

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I'll post some pics in an hour ... stilly lazy tablet tap typing in bed now.

TaoRich said:

Grower Greetz from Cape Town, South Africa.

Any other locals or other Southern Hemisphere growers starting to see more pistils appearing ?

The reason I'm asking is that I've just finished sexing the last of my seedlings, and I seem to have gone into an overlap mode between:

• pre-flowers in my seedlings
• and the beginning of actual flower bud growth in my potted plants

That's why I'm calling for a sanity check from other outdoorsy folks.


I have a few stunted or 'retarded' little slow growers in 4 litre / 1 gallon black planter bags:

• they are around 20 cm / 8 inches tall
• and just now showing their first pistils or boy balls

That's compared to my already sexed females who were transplanted into 25 litre / 6 gallon super organic living soil anything up to 8 weeks ago:

• those girls are over a metre / yard tall
• and I'm noticing 3 / 4 / 5 pistils springing out of many future bud sites

It does seem a little early in the theoretical 12/12 which is 20 March in Cape Town ...
... but then I do live in the shadow of the truly majestic Table Mountain.

- - -

I'll post some pics in an hour ... stilly lazy tablet tap typing in bed now.

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So you’re at the same point as we’d be in early August in North America — seems like a reasonable time for flowering to begin in earnest, certainly for earlier varieties.

Mrs. Weedstein said:

So you’re at the same point as we’d be in early August in North America — seems like a reasonable time for flowering to begin in earnest, certainly for earlier varieties.

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True dat - good call

Other factors can also induce flowering beside lighting (anything under 14 hours will trigger many variety) but to me it sounds maybe you have the calyx simply showing maturity as female plant but not really flowering yet.

pics are worth 1,000 threads

Mrs. Weedstein said:

So you’re at the same point as we’d be in early August in North America — seems like a reasonable time for flowering to begin in earnest, certainly for earlier varieties.

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Thanks.


I may have some Autoflower varieties ... can't be 100% sure since I started off with seeds mostly from grower mates with unidentified strains ...

... and also I harvested seeds from some odd little tasty plants I discovered outdoors that flowered here in October - well out of our local expected light cycle photoperiod season

So I suspect some Ruderalis genetics could be in my mixed up lucky dip gene pool.

Pics soon so that I can do a proper evaluation.

This all kinda snuck up on me, and I only noticed the additional pistil proliferation yesterday.

TaoRich said:

... and also I harvested seeds from some odd little tasty plants I discovered outdoors that flowered here in October -

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was it kush?

I moved three lost coast lemons from veg tent to the greenhouse a week ago and no signs of flowering just yet here in Johannesburg. I will have some Bodhi Sakura's joining them soon so hopefully early march they should all be flowering.

mistergrafik said:

was it kush?

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No idea what they were. I discovered them out back in our communal yard.



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Two reasons why I suspect possible Autoflower:

1. Odd daylight timing for spontaneous budding - October in Southern Hemisphere
2. The stone which I described in the original thread as

The smoking buzz was what I can only call medicinal ... the closest similar experience would be in the opiate line.

Neither an indica knock you over smackdown ...
... nor a speedy trippy sativa stimulant

More like an Opium "Simply Do Not Give a F--- about Anything" lucid state of mellow calmness that started at the shoulders and spread into a full-body-stone feeling of bliss ...

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On reflection, and reading up on ...

1. how Ruderalis genes are crossed into Sativa/Indica to produce autoflower
2. and how Ruderalis is way higher in CBD rather than THC

... I suspect that's where the lucid calm mellow clear head stone comes from.

TaoRich said:

No idea what they were. I discovered them out back in our communal yard.

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Thoughts on Indoor vs Outdoor Quality

I ve smoked some outdoor and it seemed it was a better high than indoor but indoor maked me more stoned I’ll agree with that depending on the type of smoker you are, me personally I prefer the choke after every hit and zombie mode that comes right after some high quality indoor

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Two reasons why I suspect possible Autoflower:

1. Odd daylight timing for spontaneous budding - October in Southern Hemisphere
2. The stone which I described in the original thread as

On reflection, and reading up on ...

1. how Ruderalis genes are crossed into Sativa/Indica to produce autoflower
2. and how Ruderalis is way higher in CBD rather than THC

... I suspect that's where the lucid calm mellow clear head stone comes from.

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Interesting my friend -

Photos

Little Miss Laggard : Alone & Close up

She just started showing her pre-flowers this past week.



Little Miss Laggard : With her Big Sisters for Scale

The big ladies were potted starting December

They were germinated only about 4 weeks before the little laggard.

So it's not an age thing ... she was very slow out the starting blocks.

Little Miss Laggard : With her Big Sisters for Scale



Flower Power

Please correct me if I am wrong ... but this is more than pre-flower ?
My pre-flower beginning December sexing was observing one little pistil per node site.

Now the clumps are starting in earnest.
Looks to me like early bud ?

I don't think this pre-flowerrs but someone else can verify 100%

Like I said in my first posting I think just maturity

TaoRich said:

No idea what they were. I discovered them out back in our communal yard.

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Oh ... and oddly enough ...
... this experience taught me something else

They looked very different ...

... both in the same cramped pot in the same shitty sandy soil

... but the taste and smoke was identical

So I came to the conclusion that they were sibling seeds from an unstabilised hybrid.

Same genotype

Different phenotype

Two things influence the structural formation of any given cannabis plant: genetics and environment. The plant’s genetic makeup, also called a genotype, acts as a blueprint for growth: it allows a spectrum of physical possibilities, but it is up to the environment to induce these characteristics. The physical expression of a genotype is referred to as a phenotype, which is simply defined as the traits that the environment pulls out from the plant’s genetic code. Everything from color, shape, smell, and resin production are affected by the environment.

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That's why I love this shit man ... learning through experience ...
... often by 'accident' or circumstances
... discovering answers to questions I never even knew I had



I have one daughter of each of those mothers busy maturing now ...
... and I gave 14 seedlings away from the same mothers

And the folks I gave them to are the people who smoke partially to modulate their anxiety ...
... so I am dead keen to see if the Opiate/CBD stone carries though the genetic line

Normal for plants to start flowering this time of year mate. Atleast it is in Australia.. You don't have autos.

@BurnzAU

Thanks for the confirmation ...

BurnzAU said:

Normal for plants to start flowering this time of year mate

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I may have one or two autoflowers in the mix ... but for the majority ... it's just their time to shine.

I caught up with a few mates at the pub yesterday that I haven't seen since we emerged from lockdown last week ...
... and they're all seeing pistils appearing this past week.

Cheers

Southern Hemisphere outdoor grower here (kinda-sorta Melbourne Australia....ish....).

Yeah, I've got a few things on the go, but I'll have to wait until tomorrow arvo in decent sunlight to get photo's of the girls.

Pretty-much all of them are going into flower right now. Multiple strains are going a different rates, but that's the way things go.....

These are my Wonder Woman from a week ago & are much advanced since then....



I've also got Incredible Bulk, Durban Poison, TNR & Green Crack in-play. All of them going into flower right now. some of them in the background of this photo.

I play...I fuck-up...I learn........rinse & repeat each year.......

Rewerb said:

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Nice little cabbage patch you got going there.
All the leaves look pristine and green and healthy.

Rewerb said:

Multiple strains are going a different rates, but that's the way things go.....

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Indeed.
I had a closer look at my selection and range yesterday, and some of the girls are just transitioning between:
- that single pre-flower pistil ticked behind the stipule
- to the clump of pistils that start at a proper bud site

Some have made the transition ... and some are just starting.

Rewerb said:

I've also got ... Durban Poison

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That's my home town where I grew up.

Durban Poison ... lovely deadly stuff that.

I'd say it's between Durban Poison and Malawi Cob to win the trophy for trippiest strains I have ever smoked.

Very close at times to LSD or Shrooms ... wildly energetic brain ... buzzed with a high speed train of thought locked onto a roller coaster track.

Rewerb said:

I play...I fuck-up...I learn........rinse & repeat each year.......

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That's the story of life ... innit ?

We could summarise all the Big Black Books with a few words.

Play ...
Fuck-up ...
Learn ...
... rinse & repeat

&

be
here
now

That just about covers it ... for growing weed and all the rest of life.

No you aren’t imagining it I’m scratching my head also asking the same question so early to begin flower still usually 4 weeks left of veg usually here too but well on there way too flower could cloudy days do it ?????? No idea but it’s real global warming maybe

Not usually where I’m yeah tips appear mid late feb but not solid bud forming

TaoRich said:

Grower Greetz from Cape Town, South Africa.

Any other locals or other Southern Hemisphere growers starting to see more pistils appearing ?

The reason I'm asking is that I've just finished sexing the last of my seedlings, and I seem to have gone into an overlap mode between:

• pre-flowers in my seedlings
• and the beginning of actual flower bud growth in my potted plants

That's why I'm calling for a sanity check from other outdoorsy folks.


I have a few stunted or 'retarded' little slow growers in 4 litre / 1 gallon black planter bags:

• they are around 20 cm / 8 inches tall
• and just now showing their first pistils or boy balls

That's compared to my already sexed females who were transplanted into 25 litre / 6 gallon super organic living soil anything up to 8 weeks ago:

• those girls are over a metre / yard tall
• and I'm noticing 3 / 4 / 5 pistils springing out of many future bud sites

It does seem a little early in the theoretical 12/12 which is 20 March in Cape Town ...
... but then I do live in the shadow of the truly majestic Table Mountain.

- - -

I'll post some pics in an hour ... stilly lazy tablet tap typing in bed now.

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I am having the same experience in Southern Aus ... plants have been flowering heavily for several weeks ... must be the very cool and mixed up weather we are having on the East coast

RIP my biggest Durban Poison a couple of days ago:

She went hermie on me & I couldn't keep on top of it, so it's been chopped...

'Still have plenty of other stuff on the go, so whilst I'm disappointed in this one, it's not a total loss. All the other DP's are doing fine, just not as
impressive.

Impromptu Wonder Woman Hydro scrog:

Still a few weeks to go...



TNR is definitely going to get another run next year. She's had a hard life & the only one left from the 6 that I popped, but I really like her...


Incredible Bulk clone that I've had going for a couple of years is showing some serious bulk:


3 Clones of IB in a large pot are enjoying their sunshine:

Very very nice ...
... and very very healthy.

Good variety.
Great density.

You're going to have a great 2021 harvest by the looks of things.