South Texas gets Busted

Yeah, one side of the coin says I'm in shit. But the other side says some very exciting & interesting things. I've grown Veg. gardens since I was 8, and love growing. But also, love the intricacies of the Law, like chess & poker. I've got about 10,000 hours studying law- I love it. Getting the shit thrown out will make them want to retaliate, add Civil Suit & filing Criminal Charges, plus demanding my grow shit back, this ups the ante, big time. Now, to grow under these conditions is what's so fucking interesting, like the challenge of cloning, breeding, rejuvenating, etc. Copters, Game Wardens, BS probable cause, all that shit will come down around the mid point of the next grow season. So,... Folks, these are the odds that I face when setting at the poker table. Should I stay or should I go? Everybody growing should have all the Pros & Cons listed on paper before dropping the first seed, to realize what cards may be dealt. Allowing just any cards/odds be dealt to you/me is stupid. I have a few months to plan my actions. My problem now is how do I drain lot's of water into 30 gal. containers quick & fast from water drums in a vehicle? I'll figure it out. I allow myself 3 minutes to refill cammo'ed water containers, that feeds my Babies.
My Family is pulling their hair out cause I ask Santa for some more seeds. I've only got 280 to play with. The bottom line is, being in warm shit will keep you from being cold, and, If you can't hang with the big dogs, stay on the porch, little Puppy. Merry Christmas, People !

bterz said:

South Texas you are the SHIT.
+rep

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fuck dancing around the local cops.. they would love nothing more than to bust your ass after you shove a civil suit up their asses. i would say rather be safe than sorry.. finish this seasons grow up till the point you fuck barney, then move a county away... you dont want them to spend their spare time building a case and sending you away for 10 years just to prove a point..

+rep for knowing your constitutional rights.. if only more people did...

FLo

South Texas said:

Fellow Family Members, it's been over a month and I can now relate the fucked-up news. Yeah, busted.
While studying (Law) Search & Seizure, Probable Cause & Right to Privacy a fews years back, I realized that, as far as I'm concerned, you can grow whatever you want... legally. Meaning that, if there is no Probable Cause, and the Property clearly portrays the desire to remain private, IE; Fenced in, closed entry, posted signs, etc., then you can't get (legally) busted. All legal steps was taken to assure no probable cause, and without, any Law Dog entering the property does so illegally.
So here comes Sgt. Barny Fife, unfastens the entry gate, drives 1/4 mile to my house(I live on 100 plus acres), to "Visit". That's the best excuse I can give, visit, look for donuts, whatever. Sgt. Barney sees 15 or so Ladies around the front door. This point is critical. Had the Officer left, got permission or some stupid ass excuse to enter private property, I would have been fucked. "A cow was out in the road" would have worked- immediate threat to traffic. But Barney calls his Boss, the Sheriff. I was really relieved at this legal blunder.
While acting within official capacity, which is called protection under color of law, I have no defense. However, once the Bitch made the call, from the first step onto private property, any and all actions thereafter is without legal authority. The Sheriff & 2 more Law Dogs showed up, 4 total. Request to enter house was made, Denied. Sheriff had to drive 50 mile round trip to get warrant. I demanded a warrant to document that the Sheriff had 15 plants to observe outside my house, but didn't believe he had probable cause to enter an unlocked house, where as Barny Fife blatantly stated that he could enter private property because the gate wasn't locked, just a spring loaded locking mechanism. I just smiled.
FDD & I started trimming about the same time, I had about 8 Ladies, amber infested, waiting in line in the house to get their hair cut, also about 18 Oz's of trimmed shit.
They called a van to haul off the shit, All my Ladies, pot, 3 to 4 thousand seeds, 1,000 watt HPS lite with track lighting, scales, heating pads, etc. The smell was so strong from the Master Kush, Afghan & Orange Bud, they had to step outside several times. Maybe 5 lbs. total.
All that work.... The Judge is cool, made sure I could make bail. 6 babies pop up in the soil since, and my special 300 seed stash was still in tack, plus two big Ladies "in the field".
Charges, 5 to 50 lbs. Shit won't start until after the new year. I miss my seeds and shit. Planted 10 seeds yesterday, along with the 6 babies. Working on filing Civil Action Suite for several civil rights violations. The shit will be thrown out of court. I'm still in the 09 Monster Grow Comp. I want the civil suit to keep the dogs at bay for next season. I may even re comp. some loses. It sucks, but I'm back in the saddle. Fuck-em.

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Im sorry about the trouble man, but way to keep your head up. Law enforcement officers are just people with badges so I agree, fuck em. Good luck with the season and the case.

Good luck and happy trails my friend

I applaud you for standing up for your rights. More Americans need to not be scared to fight back. Once you ethically challenge the system, instead of simply paying your way to community service or safe route, you see the system is flawed and the people do have some swing left. Props to you- I do suggest that if you keep growing, find some local cancer/aids/MS patients that need this medicine to have in your corner if you encounter any future legal battles. This year is a legislative year, and a Medical Marijuana as viable Defense will be hitting the floor again- so get some patients on your side as to avoid "thug dealer" reputation that they will inevitably attach and at least be able to say you are improving quality of life for possibly terminal patients.

but now that they found your grow, that will give them reasonable cause for the next time they decide to pay you a visit..

i often wondered what i would do in a simular situation, i meen if i got busted! i have already writen down my statements. and they are plenty full of religious, medical, constitutional reasons i would like to never use my staements but if i got busted i would not play nice. i would like to congrat you for knowing your legal rights. but sometimes the laws doesnt give two shits about your rights( beleive me the constitution is for references only according to the law!) ive fought for years to legalize ska5teboarding in my state and lost alot of money in the process! well to make it short heres an example of what the law thinks of your rights
so i was skating to work, just using my board as a mode of transportation! not doing any property damage or any thing. "woop woop" oh shit its the 5/0 (and being that i was involved in trying to change a law) i stoped. well after multiple atempts to take my board the pig takes a swing "pop" right in my face(and i was tring to avoid physical contact)!!! damn pig was tough too!!! so i did what i think any one being asaulted by a cop would do, i fucking kicked him in his fucking balls and ran!! well i got thrown in jail and am still paying fines and restitutuion!!!!!!! wtf
so the moral of the story goes "there going to fuck u in the ass if they want"

To expand the cloth, do what you done. Read that 15 times... To play Chess, Poker, law, first, know the rules. If I thew poker chips as a move on the Chess Board, I would look as ignorant as I am. Don't go to a fucked-up gun fight with a knife. This was your mistake. Chose your battles. These people are like Wolves, they seek & smell ignorance, which is their unofficial power. Ignorance is not an insult, my trust in the justice system & ignorance is what "They" set back & laughed about, while fucking me.
For you, there is 7 steps to due process, was there prior notice of restrictions, etc. If you are wrong, deal with it. Learn to play Chess, it's awesome. Bad Company Rules.

good luck with all your legal shit man i hope everything goes well for you. even though you have a strong case with them violating your rights i recommend getting a good lawyer to make sure they dont try to slip some pig bullshit through a loophole that they magically run across

haaha it's like we think the same.

sorry for the hijack;
but:
It's 21st century gold,
where the climates got a fever,
enjoy it while you can,
is the motto of the man,
where it's illegal to grow,
the queen of plants,
but it's all right to pay 3 grand for designer pants,
aristocratic black cats,
pawing at the cash in your pockets,
they are allowed cause the land is capitalist,
they can detain you and make you not exist,
for speaking out,
against outsourcing slavery,
poverty,
it's all right if we all get paid,
get laid,
sip back on something politically okay,
but if we speak out of role,
a motherfucker in a blue suit,
green suit,
black suit,
is going to have your ass,
and fill with with a hole,
or stick you in one to live like a mole,
you get more time for possession,
than murder,
you can kiss her,
but if you hurt her,
we click the converter,
fast-forward 25 years out of the cell,
I never asked to be born in hell,
I'd rather live and shit in a tree,
cause I consider that to be free,
instead of a hairless monkey,
who attacks me with his invisible rules,
cause he has a magic wand,
a pen,
and some paper,
he's an instigator?
private investigator?
cause he wears a suit,
a dog dressed up is still a dog,
doesn't make things resolute,
or revolve,
except around him,
kingpin,
got a badge so he's better than me,
same goes to you niggas,
that think your top shit cause you have something fancy,
and a maid named Nancy,
with three kids and no job,
cleans your house,
cause your a snob,
I ain't cleaning shit for no job,
cash money in my hand for all the shit I rob,
if I did rob,
I prefer to just roll,
and smoke it,
pass and toke it,
instead of being a gadget,
a tool,
a fool,
for some man on top,
who's never even heard hip-hop,
still my gun can make his heart stop,
why fear another man,
if he'll bleed like I bleed,
and he has the power that I need,
cause my role is to be in control and let everybody roll,
with it, or roll without it,
I ain't going to be a gear,
or gear head,
buzzer sounding cause of the malfunction,
conjunction and loss of function,
in the machine,
cause one gear spin backwards,
and keeps the other spinning,
the wrong way,
to them,
the right way to be,
to me,
is to spin it like a spinner,
sin it like a sinner,
fight back and make you all mad,
cause I be the winner,
chief nigger,
2012,
straight up from here,
to dere,
and I'm in the clear.
free pass like a bus pass,
but I didn't pay I was born this way,
like I born in the modern day.

Good statement. Legally speaking, the Probable Cause burden does not include "I had a dream, Well, maybe, or ESP". To stand before the Judge to get a warrant, there has got to be something slightly more than dreams of Sugar Cookies & 12 Oz. Buds dancing in their heads. Your suggesting does not meet the Probable Cause rule. It would have worked during the SS Germany power, not here, Baby !

quote=BackDoorMan;1805708]but now that they found your grow, that will give them reasonable cause for the next time they decide to pay you a visit..[/quote]

Radio, that's fucking awesome. Give me time to read slowly. In case people don't realize a lite when they see one, Rad deserves a look for a mental light. If you have defeatist mentality, I'll cast your ass aside. Rule goes as follows. No critic unless you put your heart out on the line, for all to see. Cool Rad !

Thanks man, but since your into legal matters and religion, did you know that it was a pope that deemed marijuana illegal?
Saying it possessed sinful attributes that were unfaithful to god.
now it's illegal cause it's all white,
and all asses are tight.
I don't see the fucking problem with letting people just have marijuana,
like I know I do a better in school (not stoned.)
thinking about my bong and bud in my room.
I could rant for years about humanity...

great thread im goinig to read more of what oyu gotta say

South Texas I said you ARE the shit not you are IN shit!!

Either way, bat shit all I really care about.

Goodluck brotha!

bummer bout the loss and the time wasted entertaining the local law dogs.good luck. a few years back,28 to be exact,it was 1980 in central CA on the coast south of big sur about an hour, some friends of mine had 1100 females going off hard in early sept when the law dogs came barking, the crop was spotted in June by a real estate prick in his helicopter.The law let them work their asses off for three months then raided them. The whole point of this is getting off just like you hope to. The main guy told the da and the judge that $5,000 was missing from a vehicle that was searched. He made it up but accused the cop he saw search the truck and kept accusing and demanding his money back in court, THE CASE WAS DISMISSED.

WELL GOOD LUCK

God Damn! you go bro!

I guess you know what I mean about texas cops from the other thread.

Good luck, sounds like you've made your own good luck though.