GrownAtHighAltitude
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Here is Shoreline's ECSD cut, where the Sour D BX and ECSD strains come from.
Kind of a crappy pic with the shadows
Kind of a crappy pic with the shadows
Sour diesel
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GrownAtHighAltitude
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Here are pictures from Chaco's old ICMag thread. I see some similarities to Shoreline's ECSD but I don't think it's exactly the same cut. I need to get my hands on it to know for sure though.
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Kami Samurai
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Here’s a picture of the ONYCD x Sour Diesel BX2 (AJ) I ran from Top Dawg. What do you think? The central leaf in the set elongates with stress btw.
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Kami Samurai
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Mike is the same one who runs getseedsrighthere? That’s who I’m referring to. It was all talked about on the hut too when I was searching for Albert Walker for someone.
GrownAtHighAltitude
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I am not sure. I don't know the guy, I just know that is where the cut came from, and it was made a looong time ago, before internet forums/OG.
It's a great diesel plant for sure. I'm not even sure what legit Sour Diesel is, I think I might have only tried some once on a joint I puffed with someone decades ago, and I don't even know if that was it. It had a distinct sour flavor on top.
The Sour Tangie I grew years ago had sort of the same mouth puckering factor that made me think of that joint.
Neither had that intense diesel fuel gas that the Chem 91, Chem D, and Albany Diesel have. All 3 have completely different flavor profiles but at the same time, they have a common strong diesel base flavor, just with other stuff on top. They're all really good.
I am looking forward to flowering out Shoreline's ECSD and I also have his Deathstar and Golden Goat too. That Golden Goat looks wild.
Golden Goat:
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Kami Samurai
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They may not be the same, I don’t want to be a part of misinformation when future hunters are searching. Shoreline though, I was testing a Chem91 x GMO I think before I got caught up. It was the most fuely, pungent stinker I’ve had. I only made it to like week 5 too but she was nasty in all the right ways. Was one of the first things I looked for when I got back, “Southern Comfort”, so his Sour D it very high on my short list to try. I grew a ECSD x GDP from him and that was very nice. Dry Eyed Giggle bud. I do feel like Chems/OG/Diesels all have those gas terps I love.
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GrownAtHighAltitude
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Shoreline Genetics has some great gear. I've been growing it for years now.
That ECSD x GDP was good, and so was the CandyMAC Bubba. Here they are side by side, the CandyMAC Bubba is on the left I think.
I made some seeds from that it was so damn good.
Kami Samurai
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Oh dang she’s Chuncky. Nice, I’ll go dig through the Shoreline thread for mine.
Smart move, I bet too. It smelled like what I imagine the cologne from anchorman to smell like. After I do these sour open pollination runs if you’re down to trade. I was gonna do a classified post down the road for Well-Known members with accounts 1-2 years or older before post only.
Honestly i always chased the ECSD, if that wasnt available id go for sours, both were top notch, i always leaned towards what ever was named ECSD. All i can say is when i had it back in 2007-2010, those were some of the best highs i've ever experienced. Maybe it was because i was a bit younger. But I kid you not, i would be soaring for a good 2 hours, and completely coming off of it after 4, cant say ive had any strain hold that long since then, but that could be cuz im an old fart now lol.
Here is a funny quote i found on the form that someone who shares the same opinion as me. by User - aheopsis
Sour d please :)
Im about to flip Cali Connections Original SD anyone had luck with their pheno's?
www.rollitup.org
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Here is a good journal about dr.greenthumbs ecsd, i wouldnt exclude his ecsd for the list. Although i personally have never tried his variation, and this journal is of course from 2016 so its a bit old.
East Coast Sour Diesel-Greenthumb Seeds by Dr Gruber
6 years ago I did my first official journal for Dr Greenthumb. It was ECSD. It is with great pleasure that I will now take my second run at Doc's ECSD. Photo's from day 1 and day 3.......
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Kami Samurai
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Grubers? I read that a long time ago. That is not the typical experience and on Overgrow he is a said to be a tester for Greenthumb seeds. My review is just based off the mix of reviews and many are negative and I haven’t found anyone still running his gear as a keeper. Then we include customer service it’s an avoid from me. There is a thread I’ll find that compresses information for their ECSD.
ketamine_disposal_unit
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I popped a pack of rez x karma Sour diesels f2 here they are in wk7 flower
I've never had original Sour diesel or whatever but some of these smell pretty funky sorry for the pic dump
I also have a pack of karma Sour diesels bx4 I'll pop soon
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I've never had original Sour diesel or whatever but some of these smell pretty funky sorry for the pic dump
I also have a pack of karma Sour diesels bx4 I'll pop soon
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Antidote Man
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I currently live near Albany and I smell that shit all the time. People here are definitely smoking sour diesel.. out and about on the streets.
From what I know, NYCSD was a creation of Soma's, from a clone of Sour Diesel he got in NYC and a Hawaiian strain. Rezdog had the same clone and backcrossed it to Soma's several times to create his 'Sour Diesel'.
LA Seed.co sells all of Rezdog's seeds. That's where I'd go to get his original creation. If Sowahh is another backcross of Rez's work, I don't see why anyone looking for something closest to the original Rezdog version would buy from Karma.
And that's where ECSD comes in. From what I know, that's the original name for the clone that Soma and Rez got. They called it NYCSD because that's where the clone came from, via NYC, where it was most well known. But the people selling the stuff just called it Sour Diesel and it was moving around the east coast, hence the name in America, ECSD.
Dr Greenthumb has the seeds, has for a long time. I am willing to bet that's as close as it gets to the original....
From what I know, NYCSD was a creation of Soma's, from a clone of Sour Diesel he got in NYC and a Hawaiian strain. Rezdog had the same clone and backcrossed it to Soma's several times to create his 'Sour Diesel'.
LA Seed.co sells all of Rezdog's seeds. That's where I'd go to get his original creation. If Sowahh is another backcross of Rez's work, I don't see why anyone looking for something closest to the original Rezdog version would buy from Karma.
And that's where ECSD comes in. From what I know, that's the original name for the clone that Soma and Rez got. They called it NYCSD because that's where the clone came from, via NYC, where it was most well known. But the people selling the stuff just called it Sour Diesel and it was moving around the east coast, hence the name in America, ECSD.
Dr Greenthumb has the seeds, has for a long time. I am willing to bet that's as close as it gets to the original....
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GWilliamsCannabis
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Take soma out of the equation.
His NYCD is NOT sour and has nothing to do with sour....in fact; there isn't sour d in his nycd; it's Mexican Sativa x Afghani; no sour....flavor is red grapefruit; not sour fuel.
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Kami Samurai
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That is an ethics question.
Antidote Man
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I dont see where we're disagreeing. I said, Soma took the Sour Deisel clone and crossed it with some Hawaiian, Afghani, etc Dutch strain. Rez took the Sour Diesel clone and used Soma's NYCD creation to backcross and create his own Sour Diesel in seed format, as close as he could get to the original clone.
GWilliamsCannabis
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Soma didn't cross sour to anything. It's literally just Mexican Sativa x Afghani.....there is no sour and not even diesel in his NYCD.
GWilliamsCannabis
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There was a huge thing around 2006ish where ppl were complaining about the name of somas nycd because generically its not diesel and isn't the sour.....personally I love his nycd too; and if memory serves me correctly; the nycd was available in the late 90s; before sour even existed.
Nycd has more of a sweet red grapefruit taste....it isn't sour at all...but there is some fuel flavor to it.
Again though....if ANY of these seeds were the real sour d....this thread probably wouldn't exist of ppl searching for the real sour. It would be everywhere if anyone knew a seed source with the real deal.
I've determined none of the seed packs will give you the real deal.