UncleBuck
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all i can do is laugh.
"Someone has to clean the toilets"
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We all know you won't get a job, so laughter might be the best answer for you.
Nutes and Nugs
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Well Pada,
You are young and .75c over 4 years sucks.
Back in the 70's that was a good raise for say a year of good service.
A lot of people still think being faithful to a company will help them get ahead.
True if you make the company money, not just doing your job.
If you want to be recognised you have to put in the extra effort.
Just like BB is talking about.
Kids that put in the extra effort, rich or poor will excel in life.
You're not doing your homework if you take these shit jobs and expect to be happy.
Take a look in the wanted section.
What does the same job pay across town or whatever?
While looking at those adds, what other jobs can you apply for?
You have to keep fighting and working until you find happiness.
No person or the govt is going to make you instantly happy with some job.
Do something you know and go into business for yourself after learning the ropes.
and stop blaming other people for your failures.
It's not the rich or democrats or republicans or independents.
It's You!
it's all of us.
Nutes and Nugs
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The Taxpayer.
And where does the govt get it's money from?
China?
Why so despondent tonight Bucky?
You get your period or something?
Myth number 1: having multiple jobs in a one year period will look bad... Nonsense!
I'm not talking about having 14 jobs in one year.
But suppose you are making $7.50 right now. In march you find a job that pays $9, you apply and get it.
In June you're looking around and you see a $12 job, you apply and get it.
In November that company closes.
In December you're applying, this does not look bad at all. It's called being smart. You left for considerably more money.
Myth number 2: I shouldn't lie on a resume... Bull shit, if you ain't lying, you ain't trying.
Basically you have to tell the truth about where you worked and how long you worked there. If I'm hiring you, I can look online and see where you worked, and about how long you've worked there, not much else.
If I call there, all they can legally tell me is yeah you worked here, much else and the company giving the information opens itself up to massive liability. Now a small mom n pop might not know that, but if you worked for a large company, say mcdonalds, if I run the taco bell across town, and you're applying for my gm position, if I call mcdonalds they will not tell me that you just flipped the meat on the grill and salted the fries.
If in the interview, you know your gm stuff, and you get the job and a year later I found out you we're just a line cook, if you're doing the job well, you're usually going to be fine. If I decide to fire you anyway, you've got a year gm experience at my place to put on your resume.
I'm not talking about having 14 jobs in one year.
But suppose you are making $7.50 right now. In march you find a job that pays $9, you apply and get it.
In June you're looking around and you see a $12 job, you apply and get it.
In November that company closes.
In December you're applying, this does not look bad at all. It's called being smart. You left for considerably more money.
Myth number 2: I shouldn't lie on a resume... Bull shit, if you ain't lying, you ain't trying.
Basically you have to tell the truth about where you worked and how long you worked there. If I'm hiring you, I can look online and see where you worked, and about how long you've worked there, not much else.
If I call there, all they can legally tell me is yeah you worked here, much else and the company giving the information opens itself up to massive liability. Now a small mom n pop might not know that, but if you worked for a large company, say mcdonalds, if I run the taco bell across town, and you're applying for my gm position, if I call mcdonalds they will not tell me that you just flipped the meat on the grill and salted the fries.
If in the interview, you know your gm stuff, and you get the job and a year later I found out you we're just a line cook, if you're doing the job well, you're usually going to be fine. If I decide to fire you anyway, you've got a year gm experience at my place to put on your resume.
twostrokenut
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Witness the troll master.
Ask yourself what you said you're "figna" do in your own life.
You're about to go to co and when pressed to comply with
Regs and taxes you claimed you would simply "grow more".
Which equates to "work harder" by your own definition of your job.
Ouch.
Nutes and Nugs
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My one ex was a manager at Mc's.
She would talk about certain kids the "really helped me out tonight" or this week.
Doing a good job and putting in some extra effort will get you noticed.
Those kids went on to better jobs at Mc's and beyond.
The point I'm trying to make is, earn the company money.
If you just do the minimum, it's time to move on to a new job.
She would talk about certain kids the "really helped me out tonight" or this week.
Doing a good job and putting in some extra effort will get you noticed.
Those kids went on to better jobs at Mc's and beyond.
The point I'm trying to make is, earn the company money.
If you just do the minimum, it's time to move on to a new job.
UncleBuck
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i'm gonna go ahead and not get a job for the next 45 minutes as i pour 50 gallons of water over some soil in two dozen 5 gallon containers.
It speaks volumes that what you call a job most do as a hobby, and do just as much. And somehow with all that free time to devote to it, you still can't be bothered to remove the animal feces from your drying room.
You suck at your hobby job.
Nutes and Nugs
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I spent more time tonight giving the flower room a good cleaning and general maintenance.
There was a time I became lazy with my grow and it came back to bite my ass as far as yield.
You have to do a better job all the time and you will be rewarded.
"The squeaky wheel gets the grease."
There was a time I became lazy with my grow and it came back to bite my ass as far as yield.
You have to do a better job all the time and you will be rewarded.
"The squeaky wheel gets the grease."
Padawanbater2
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You're absolutely right, my supervisor didn't really approve of my attempt to rise up in the company. During that time, I felt like she simply needed a void to fill and anyone available to fill it was applicable (much like the other jobs I've had). They need a spot filled? "WHO WANTS TO FILL IT@!???" First come, first served. Experience be damned. This is coming from 3 different jobs that I'd spent more than a year at, one at a movie theater, the other at Starbucks and one at a computer tech company. I spent a week preparing for the application/interview, and she simply gave it to someone else who showed up before me.. Real loyalty there. I hope that serves as an example of the solution to just "work harder". I worked harder, I worked harder than I'd ever had before, yet I was still skipped over, more than once. No explanation other than "unlucky". I could have worked twice as hard and the circumstances still would not have permitted me to be in the right place at the right time.
The funny thing is, my lips are permanently brown for how much ass I've kissed during my minimum wage career, minimum wage ass kissing leads you absolutely nowhere.
Absolutely correct, I believe the same thing
I think that pretty much proves what I mentioned earlier, how luck and other factors come into play regarding someones success
None of these jobs were at an office. It's a simple regular working environment. I think if your success at a company is derived from an ability to work office politics at a small time tech company or coffee shop, there is something significantly wrong with said job. Not to mention its blatant discrimination to hold an employee back because of office politics
UncleBuck
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you made an assumption.
you assume that growing more automatically equates to working harder. i vehemently disagree. that would only be true if the processes were the same, which they would definitely not be. legality changes everything. if i wanted to actually pursue that dream, i'd honestly be in a more managerial role than the role i play now, which is every single employee there is.
the model under legalization is still grow more, but that means working differently, not necessarily harder. i've got all i can eat on my plate at harvest time right now. i'd have to expand a shit ton. no way i could do it alone. other people would do the hardest work for me.
your assumptions are naive and simplistic.
bud nugbong
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someone likes to mess with the stoners, But I agree with what this guy said on 1st page. the system works just fine. Get in where you fit in. Its the unproductive junkies doing this country wrong!
twostrokenut
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Your lies become truly worth of eye rolling.
Now you are all alone in your endeavors. So much for the job creator.
NLXSK1
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4 whole years and they didnt make you president of the company?? I am SHOCKED!!!
You are the one responsible for your advancement. What you seem to be missing is that the amount of money you made for the company did not increase much over that time either. Your job is tied to the profit the position makes.
To get ahead if you cannot do it in the same company is to find a higher position than you have with another company and continue to move up. Some jobs are not going to start out at minimum wage and go to 100K per year.
For some reason, and it appears to be the fact that you were born, and using the economic data from 20 years before you were born you have concluded that in the 1970's that people had it much better than now and damnit, you want the 70's back.
I think one of the big reasons you are having so much difficulty in life is you spend a lot of time wishing that reality were different rather than accepting reality and doing something productive within that framework.
Four years is plenty of time to demonstrate that you are a competent individual, and worth being invested in. Hell, very often, a few months is enough time.
The key to his problem with advancement therein is the fact that his supervisor didn't like him. His mistake there was continuing to work there, or not attempting an end round of his immediate supervisor.
If your boss don't like you, you have to change bosses. Most often this means change companies, it can mean, depending on your level of access to their boss, going around them. There are plenty of ways to do this.
Padawanbater2
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My boss changed halfway through working that job, that wasn't the issue. As I'm sure you know, in most jobs, there are workers, supervisors/management, and bosses. So say you spend all 4 years doing exactly what you're supposed to without missing a day of work or being late... but there are no openings for supervisors/management... then what? That theory falls flat on its face right there. You could work even harder, still no positions open.
You're right it was a mistake to stay there that long, but as I mentioned before, there are dozens of variables I don't think you're considering.
You both realize we're still feeling the effects of the economic crisis, right? Would you tell somebody in the early 1930's this same BS? That they just need to "work harder" to get ahead? Do you understand how ridiculous that would sound to them?
I'm relaying to you someone's real life experience and you are blindly telling me that it is not true. Obviously you are wrong. There's no such thing as equality in public schools. The quality varies district by district. Even in states that have tried to equalize funding the wealthy districts have an advantage because the parents volunteer, donate supplies, etc.
The fact that the curriculum is standardized is irrelevant. What if you don't have supplies? What if you don't have books? What if the teachers willing to work there are absolutely terrible? You're telling us these factors have zero effects on outcomes, which is laughably ridiculous. There are piles and piles and piles of research that resolutely declare you to be wrong.
Your personal experience and the policies of your childhood school district are not necessarily reflective of any other place in the United States. There are fifty states and thousands of school districts. You are one person out of millions who came from entirely different places and had entirely different experiences.