soiless and organics

jstone1633

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Anyone have any experience using jus soiless medium and organic nutes? Im trying promix and roots organic nutes but so far Im not impressed with how my clones are doing. They all look weak. Do i need to ph anything? Feed heavier...Im always scared of burning them. Ive had good luck with soil but wanted to try something different. Any input is appreciated.
 

polyarcturus

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i water and feed everyday. that is the answer. with organics you probably need more, or stuff that breaks down faster, bloodmeal for example or instantly available, like rock phosphate.
 

NEONKINEBUDZ

Active Member
I do. I use ProEarth #2 and General Organics. I feed every water, and I water when the plants need it. You can see my results in my signature. I don't PH anything and haven't for the year or so I have been using soilless and these nutes. I talked to a rep at Gen hydro (before I started) about the Gen Org line and he said it was set to keep the PH optimal. I haven't had any issues so far. For the most part I have been able to use the manufacturers suggested doses in veg but with some strains have had to use more bloom in flower.
 

Murphio

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Most of these "organic" lines aren't even 100% organic, so why not add a few other inorganic ingredients to the mix (K20 which truely comes from KCl) to enhance things such as resin and trichome production. Inorganic nutrients get a bad name because eveyone refers to them as "synthetic", which is untrue and misleading, they are just ions in solution and some eventually precipitate out as a solid salt that coats your drippers, table, res, you get my point. Use good products and don't over due the nutrients and you won't have a problem with inorganic salt build-up. There's nothing synthetic about them really, salts are natural too. Whether it's inorganic nutrients or pure organics, it all comes down to learning how the plant can use those nutrients. Organics in soil works very well, the soil provides a natural place for a healthy rhizosphere. Hydro organics can be a bit more tricky especially if your medium is too airy (i.e. clay pellets). If you can get your hydro setup dailed in for organics then rock on, otherwise join the inorganic dark side. When grown right and in moderation, inorganically grown can have the same smooth tasty appeal as organic soil grown. Happy Growing!
 

NerdJr

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Good organic soil goes a long way, find a Nursery, get 20 CFL bulbs in a 115 L container with 24/7 light for the first 2 months, then set to 18/6 with a timer and this is what you get in a little under 3 months, Sannies Mad Shack Strain, the Lady J has also been topped every top since it sprouted, will have over 50 main COLAS as you can see, try my method, you will be happy ;):fire:View attachment 2527118View attachment 2527119View attachment 2527120View attachment 2527121View attachment 2527122View attachment 2527123View attachment 2527124View attachment 2527125View attachment 2527126View attachment 2527127View attachment 2527128View attachment 2527129View attachment 2527130View attachment 2527131View attachment 2527132View attachment 2527133View attachment 2527134
 

NerdJr

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I am, Grow Big by Fox Farm and organic fertilizer that you mix in with the soil which has blood meal, fish emulsion, bat guano, and 25 other trace minerals, go to a nursery and get your shit, best thing one can do, just ask them questions. But I waited 2 months before feeding with the Grow Big, obviously it works :fire:
 
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