Soil Test Results

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Growitpondifarm

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After seeing a few people use the soil savvy tests on here I decided to get the new batch of soil I put together tested. I’ve posted a picture of my results here D09E505F-B267-4B9B-9E35-83E90206C51D.jpeg

Looks like my Macros are all set for the most part but my micro nutrients are a bit lacking.

Currently I have seedlings in this mix in little 1 gallon pots until they’re ready to be transplanted into there final 7 gal smart pots. So I have at least another 2 weeks before I will dip back into the soil bin. Should I add some more kelp in order to bring up those micros? Any other amendment suggestions?

Also if they’re is anything you believe would be beneficial to add to my mix based off these results I’m all ears!
 
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Growitpondifarm

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Dmannn said:
I would cut with A LOT of perlite and something slow releasing like a manure and or loam soil.
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What makes you think I should cut it Dman? High PK and S levels? The mix has about 1/3 perlite in there as is. Here is a pic of seedlings that have been in the mix,with a bit of extra perlite, for about a week. 3C4CFACF-04FB-4913-A1A2-EFAEBB2B3C7A.jpeg

No sign of burnage really. I like the idea of adding some slower releasing stuff to the mix though.

Currently my mix includes

Basalt
Gypsum
Oyster shell flour
Alfalfa meal
Kelp meal
Neem meal
FRESH local EWC
local compost
Malted Barley Powder

Cut with peat and perlite.
 
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Growitpondifarm

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NaturalFarmer said:
You could just feed fish hydrolysate or kelp to your plants a few times during the grow for micros.
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Yea I like this. I typically make some kelp teas throughout anyhow. Natural any good brand recommendations for kelp or fish Hs? I bough a big bag of kelp meal off amazon for this mix but wasn’t impressed, it felt super dry and had little to no smell. Gotta have high quality inputs
 
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NaturalFarmer

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Fedco organic supply is where I get mine but I go to the warehouse and don't pay shipping. I think they buy their meal from North American Kelp. I also think Neptune's harvest is great though just pricey and double what I pay although if you were to add shipping it would most likely be similar. Fish hyrdolysate over emulsion everytime.
Kelp that is from the north Atlantic will be most beneficial. Maine and above


http://www.noamkelp.com/
 
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Growitpondifarm

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NaturalFarmer said:
Fedco organic supply is where I get mine but I go to the warehouse and don't pay shipping. I think they buy their meal from North American Kelp. I also think Neptune's harvest is great though just pricey and double what I pay although if you were to add shipping it would most likely be similar. Fish hyrdolysate over emulsion everytime.
Kelp that is from the north Atlantic will be most beneficial. Maine and above


http://www.noamkelp.com/
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Thanks for the source. I’m gonna order a bag of meal from them but that sea crop plant growth regulator stuff is interesting. I use coconut water throughout the grow but this stuff claims to have a serious amount of cytokines in it. Have you or anyone else tried this ? It is expensive but assuming for a container gardening scenario the smallest size would probably last years
 
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NaturalFarmer

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Growitpondifarm said:
Thanks for the source. I’m gonna order a bag of meal from them but that sea crop plant growth regulator stuff is interesting. I use coconut water throughout the grow but this stuff claims to have a serious amount of cytokines in it. Have you or anyone else tried this ? It is expensive but assuming for a container gardening scenario the smallest size would probably last years
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It would be for commercial nurseries and vineyard. Always been interested but not for that $$$
 
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Wetdog

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NaturalFarmer said:
Fedco organic supply is where I get mine but I go to the warehouse and don't pay shipping. I think they buy their meal from North American Kelp. I also think Neptune's harvest is great though just pricey and double what I pay although if you were to add shipping it would most likely be similar. Fish hyrdolysate over emulsion everytime.
Kelp that is from the north Atlantic will be most beneficial. Maine and above


http://www.noamkelp.com/
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Maine and above for sure.

I'm only familiar with 2 brands, both of the highest quality.

Thorvin, the cheapest for me to source, comes from Iceland.
Algamin, is sourced from around Nova Scotia. Closer, but the shipping is higher. Go figure!
Norway is also a source for kelp, but no experience there.

The key for kelp is, Ascophyllum Nodosum and VERY cold water.

Wet
 
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Dmannn

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Growitpondifarm said:
What makes you think I should cut it Dman? High PK and S levels? The mix has about 1/3 perlite in there as is. Here is a pic of seedlings that have been in the mix,with a bit of extra perlite, for about a week. View attachment 4144983

No sign of burnage really. I like the idea of adding some slower releasing stuff to the mix though.

Currently my mix includes

Basalt
Gypsum
Oyster shell flour
Alfalfa meal
Kelp meal
Neem meal
FRESH local EWC
local compost
Malted Barley Powder

Cut with peat and perlite.
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Sounds good man! This other list looks super!
 
MustangStudFarm

MustangStudFarm

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Growitpondifarm said:
After seeing a few people use the soil savvy tests on here I decided to get the new batch of soil I put together tested. I’ve posted a picture of my results here View attachment 4143723

Looks like my Macros are all set for the most part but my micro nutrients are a bit lacking.

Currently I have seedlings in this mix in little 1 gallon pots until they’re ready to be transplanted into there final 7 gal smart pots. So I have at least another 2 weeks before I will dip back into the soil bin. Should I add some more kelp in order to bring up those micros? Any other amendment suggestions?

Also if they’re is anything you believe would be beneficial to add to my mix based off these results I’m all ears!
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You should look into what high phosphorus does to the soil.. It locks out the Micros like Iron and Zinc. The "Soil Savvy" test is showing what is available and not the total #, so being high in P would show low micro... I am dealing with the same thing right now. DSC00997.JPG
 
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MustangStudFarm said:
You should look into what high phosphorus does to the soil.. It locks out the Micros like Iron and Zinc. The "Soil Savvy" test is showing what is available and not the total #, so being high in P would show low micro... I am dealing with the same thing right now. View attachment 4146759
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Mustang, how have you dealt with your issue? Cut the soil with more peat or coco maybe ? Then I’d be a bit worried about messing with the Ph of the mix I would think. The seedlings I have are showing no signs of defiency at the moment but they’re growth has also been somewhat lackluster in terms of speed. Granted they have only been in the pots for a week now so I kind of figured that was more due to transplant.

I’m leaning towards maybe Ammending my mix with some kelp, extra perlite and maybe some coco to “soften” it a bit.
 
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MustangStudFarm

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In my exp, coco just adds potassium and sodium. I was using a mix that had composted pine bark and I might look into it again. I came across an article that said that pine bark will help with excess P. I'm not 100% on that, but that is my next step... I thought that iron chlorosis was a N def and that the pine was soaking up all of the P. So, I screened all of the pine from my soil and everything went to shit. That was last year and I still have not completely figured it out. I was using a lot of compost and my micros were fine but extremely high in P and K.

This is what iron chlorosis looks like:
 
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Growitpondifarm

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MustangStudFarm said:
In my exp, coco just adds potassium and sodium. I was using a mix that had composted pine bark and I might look into it again. I came across an article that said that pine bark will help with excess P. I'm not 100% on that, but that is my next step... I thought that iron chlorosis was a N def and that the pine was soaking up all of the P. So, I screened all of the pine from my soil and everything went to shit. That was last year and I still have not completely figured it out. I was using a lot of compost and my micros were fine but extremely high in P and K.

This is what iron chlorosis looks like:
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Great info Mustang, thanks for the heads up. I’m going I just hang tight and maybe cut it with a little extra perlite for the final pots. Good to know for next soil mix though.
 
MustangStudFarm

MustangStudFarm

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Growitpondifarm said:
Great info Mustang, thanks for the heads up. I’m going I just hang tight and maybe cut it with a little extra perlite for the final pots. Good to know for next soil mix though.
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You shouldn't freak out about the P unless everything is fading yellow badly... Then, there is a iron and micro feed. It works but it has chelates in it, I'm not sure, but I think that they are bad for organic? It says that you can use it as a foliar spray. Again, I am just letting you know about it and I am not telling you to use it right now. I would wait until you def see some yellow... https://www.fertilome.com/product/chelated-liquid-iron-and-other-micro-nutrient
 
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Growitpondifarm

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MustangStudFarm said:
You shouldn't freak out about the P unless everything is fading yellow badly... Then, there is a iron and micro feed. It works but it has chelates in it, I'm not sure, but I think that they are bad for organic? It says that you can use it as a foliar spray. Again, I am just letting you know about it and I am not telling you to use it right now. I would wait until you def see some yellow... https://www.fertilome.com/product/chelated-liquid-iron-and-other-micro-nutrient
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Yea at the moment my plants are all pretty healthy, no signs of yellowing or any other defiency/lockout. Only issue is seeing at the moment is one strain is showing slight leaf edge curling. I will keep eye out for micro lockouts specifically Iron, thanks again for input.
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Top of the photo are two ninja fruit from ocean grown. They’re the only plants showing the edges curling. They appear healthy so I’m not too stressed about it.

I’ve got 3 more Dj Short(JD) original blueberries up front, they were a major pain to grow last run so I had to try them again. So far so good
 
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ganga gurl420

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Growitpondifarm said:
Yea at the moment my plants are all pretty healthy, no signs of yellowing or any other defiency/lockout. Only issue is seeing at the moment is one strain is showing slight leaf edge curling. I will keep eye out for micro lockouts specifically Iron, thanks again for input.
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Top of the photo are two ninja fruit from ocean grown. They’re the only plants showing the edges curling. They appear healthy so I’m not too stressed about it.

I’ve got 3 more Dj Short(JD) original blueberries up front, they were a major pain to grow last run so I had to try them again. So far so good
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Due to the darkness of the leaves and the tips of them it looks like the beginning of nitrogen toxicity to me. If that is the case you will and can have root damage.
That soil you made is far too hot imo.
 
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