Soil Ph & Water Ph Problems

Jjgrow420

Jjgrow420

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Greenthumb0088 said:
Whats a good brand for fair price? Yeah I think they are in a extreme stunt state.
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Honestly, you don't need one. (soil probe)
Good brands of pH pens:
Hanna
Blue Labs
Apera

Trying to change the pH in a soil properly isn't just a simple thing. Personally, I don't mess with it and just let the microbes do their thing. (In soil),
Coco, different story, but the input feed is always proper pH 5.6-6.1 depending on stage
Coco is meant to be used like a hydroponic media not to be amended. It's better to use a peat based media like pro mix if you want to amend
 
Jjgrow420

Jjgrow420

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Simple answer is you put too much stuff into a pot with seedlings. No bueno. This is where your problem started then you compounded the issues by adding more nonsense into the mix. Less is more. Especially with seedlings. Personally I'd start over and use the search function 'how to grow weed easy' start there. It's way less complicated than you're making it.
 
Budzbuddha

Budzbuddha

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Greenthumb0088 said:
I was thinking the same thing. I use the same water on my tomato plants and they are perfectly fine. I've used this water for over 10 years. I didn't add anything to the 7 gal fabric pots at first except worm castings. Bc the soil had still a small amount of npk that should carry the whole seedling. I've never had to ph the water before. I figured it was from starting straight in 7 gal and being saturated from rain. I did add some blood & bone meal around the outsides of the pot after the 2nd week. They grew a little then, now they just stopped. I added a small amount of some organic ph down for acidic plants I mixed it down towards the bottom from sides hoping to lower soil ph. It's over 8 ph. Never in my life have I had this much trouble with any plant. Yea them bottles ain't cheap just to waste. I started two new in ffof and 2 more germ now. I'm about over the seedlings, I could have bought clones instead of this headache.
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It would have been better to “ recycle “ previously used soil and mix with fresh amounts of new soil. Simple.

No need to add bone / blood meal which will take weeks to breakdown. A simple remixing of old and new soil will basically precharge it.

I use spent soil in solo cups since it is in a mild state from previous use and has some feeding left in it …. Perfect for a seedling . PLUS - if it was a little light in NPK then all you do is add a scoop of fresh FFOF to your seedling cup and water that in.

Again - pretty simple.
 
Budzbuddha

Budzbuddha

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A 3-5 gallon container of straight FFOF will power all of the feeding by itself on plain water. For weeks.

Thats why once you get a solo cup plant ready to transplant- there is nothing else to add ( maybe EWC / Myco ) to final pot of FFOF.

Treat it more like a houseplant instead of complicating such a simple plant.
 
Budzbuddha

Budzbuddha

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Simple Solo Cup Prep : Examples

1. Recycled soil / myco bump ( xtreme gardening / Dynomyco / or similar ) .

2. Recycled soil / fresh soil mix

3. fresh soil base ( bottom of cup. ) top fill with previously used soil.

4. Mix previously used soil and 1/4 teaspoon of Dry Fertilizer ( veg )

5. Fill with recycled soil - Add a Jobes tomato spike - water.

And about a thousand other ways.
 
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1212ham

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I'm not a soil guy, but I like it. My coco was too hot last time, at 10 days I ran a shit load of .4 EC through the solo cup and she bounced right back.
 
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Roguedawg

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Greenthumb I have some seedlings outside now that are in a cheap bark potting soil, I had to hit them with EC2.5 twice to get them green.
 
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Greenthumb0088

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So this is what I've done at this point. I removed them from the 7gal fab pots and didn't take any soil from out of them. I put them in cups with ffof sat them back out to where they previously were. Let them dry completely out then added a small amount of water. I did add a small amount of trifecta mycorrhizae. Do you think they could be getting to much direct sunlight? They are getting around 13hrs of direct sunlight, temps have been in the mid 90's humidity around mid 50s and up. I just started 2 new seeds in cups one is looking good the other is just breaking soil, only have cut off bottles over them indoor in a window seal. I have some coco was goin to try my other ones germn in maybe a cup of it.
 
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Roguedawg

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Sounds like good idea, you want have the same problem with ffof its usually pretty hot. For the record those cheaper pinebark potting mixes can work fine but, for inside coco is the way to go if you can drain to waste easily. One of the advantages is low buffer capacity so problems like you just had can be corrected quickly. That amount of sunlight isnt a problem.
 
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