Rrog
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Maybe grandma needs some AACT
I just now read that! That's funny!
Soil Food Web Gardening with Compost Teas
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I just now read that! That's funny!
Sincerely420
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You...Be kind and be factual. And remember that you are not omnscient.
And I'm not looking to meet any "tomato or carrot or cabbage or lettuce" growers anytime soon.
I'm looking to meet more ppl who wanna talk about AACTs!
And I think nothing of RO. I use water from the tap and AACTs like once a week or every other week, depending on how I feel! If I don't wanna "work to hard" I might skip a brew
Rrog
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I have hard well water and used to use it, but with the concept of recycling soil, the Ca and Mg levels might get nasty in a couple years. So I'll be moving to RO water. Hooked up to Blumat drippers.
Oh, and it's not that I don't use teas. I use and recommend botanical teas all the time. Barley Seed, corn, Alfalfa and coconut seeds all deliver some really excellent enzymes, hormones, metabolites, etc. And they get bubbled to stay aerobic. 24-36 hour brew and you're good to go. Throw the leftover vegetation in the worm bin
Oh, and it's not that I don't use teas. I use and recommend botanical teas all the time. Barley Seed, corn, Alfalfa and coconut seeds all deliver some really excellent enzymes, hormones, metabolites, etc. And they get bubbled to stay aerobic. 24-36 hour brew and you're good to go. Throw the leftover vegetation in the worm bin
Sincerely420
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Wish I could help bro. But the only answers I'd be able to give you I'd have to Google right quick....
Why not set up a few rains barrels?
Why not set up a few rains barrels?
Rrog
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Someone else mentioned a cistern on another forum. As I understand it, you can collect rainwater off a metal roof, not asphalt, and I'm doing metal roofing, so I may do this. Otherwise I'll need another water softener and all that salt, etc. Pretty much the rain barrel idea.
Rising Moon
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I think one of the biggest reasons many farmers don't use AACTs is because they simply dont need to.
They have enough compost/manure/spoiled hay/grass clippings/alfalfa/clover to manage fertility without them.
I think compost teas are GREAT for the average home gardener, and GREAT for lawns, parks and other areas impractical to spread compost.
If you have acres and acres of land to work, and utilize, your time would be better spent rotating crops and fitting green manures in whenever possible.
But if you've got a small compost pile in your back yard, a garden next to it, and some meds growing in the basement, then BY ALL MEANS compost teas will be of GREAT benefit to those who wish not to purchase bottled nutes, and don't really produce enough compost to sufficiently go around.
They have enough compost/manure/spoiled hay/grass clippings/alfalfa/clover to manage fertility without them.
I think compost teas are GREAT for the average home gardener, and GREAT for lawns, parks and other areas impractical to spread compost.
If you have acres and acres of land to work, and utilize, your time would be better spent rotating crops and fitting green manures in whenever possible.
But if you've got a small compost pile in your back yard, a garden next to it, and some meds growing in the basement, then BY ALL MEANS compost teas will be of GREAT benefit to those who wish not to purchase bottled nutes, and don't really produce enough compost to sufficiently go around.
Rising Moon
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Thats too bad bro, because I grow salad greens/lettuce for local grocery stores, farmers markets, neighbors, friends and family.
So you don't want to meet me...?
headtreep
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Sincerely420
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Now that I look at that, it's looks kinda ugly...
Sometimes I say things that I shouldn't....Not too often I think, but i'm guilty :/
I don't mean anything hostile towards farmers and my hats off to you..
In context, it's not so bad...Just not on a marijuana website seeking the advice of vegetable growers in particular as dude suggested..
I'd rather discuss AACTs with ppl on this thread
Nice post btw. You made perfect sense of the situation in your first couple sentences with the other post.
Sincerely420
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But really tho, from what I've learned, by carefully selecting the ingredients you put in the teas, you can brew a specific concauction.
My thinking is that the living soil itself is the buffer of all buffers, so why not push it to the limit with AACTs?
I'm not a farmer like you said, so I don't have the luxury of having different manures and composts to work in..
I've got bagged compost, local wormcastings, and amended Fox Farms Ocean Forest to make due with...
I'm in a house. Not on farm. I guess I forget that everyone don't have just an "indoor growing" mindset.
My thinking is that the living soil itself is the buffer of all buffers, so why not push it to the limit with AACTs?
I'm not a farmer like you said, so I don't have the luxury of having different manures and composts to work in..
I've got bagged compost, local wormcastings, and amended Fox Farms Ocean Forest to make due with...
I'm in a house. Not on farm. I guess I forget that everyone don't have just an "indoor growing" mindset.
grnhrvstr
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Care to elaborate a little about not collecting rain from an asphalt roof?I did a quick search and had seen others with the same concern but seems it may be the opposite.I have 2 250 collection tanks that are fed by an asphalt roof and it seems fine for the plants but it does make me wonder.
I brew teas weekly..mainly cuz my one single P.O.S $3.00 pump only makes bubbles in half a gallon jug....lolz,but that half gallon is deadly when used
When I get a bigger pump I have a 55 gallon just waiting to go to work!
GreenSanta
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i use act, part of the hobby... i grew wicked shit without it and still does (get lazy sometimes)
how much coco do you guys use in your notill mix?
how much coco do you guys use in your notill mix?
Rrog
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S420- All discussions aside I am very sure of one thing- Your soil is probably about as good as it gets. And I am equally sure your bud is equally dank. Of this I have no doubt. You are very passionate about all of this and I respect that a lot. I forget, and I'm sorry about that, but do you have a worm bin going?
hrvstr- I got my understanding from scanning some blogs and articles. I haven't read anything much on the topic at all. But it sure interests me.
hrvstr- I got my understanding from scanning some blogs and articles. I haven't read anything much on the topic at all. But it sure interests me.
NickNasty
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Care to elaborate a little about not collecting rain from an asphalt roof?I did a quick search and had seen others with the same concern but seems it may be the opposite.I have 2 250 collection tanks that are fed by an asphalt roof and it seems fine for the plants but it does make me wonder.
I brew teas weekly..mainly cuz my one single P.O.S $3.00 pump only makes bubbles in half a gallon jug....lolz,but that half gallon is deadly when used
When I get a bigger pump I have a 55 gallon just waiting to go to work!
I have done a little bit of research on asphalt verses metal roofs for gardens and found that both have there pros and cons asphalt roofs are made from oil and as they break down they can leave chemicals in your water some of the more expensive types also have something in them to stop algae growth and this is said to be bad for all plants not just algae. Metal roofs usually have a coating on them that has zinc in it to keep them from degrading and it can be toxic to you but more likely your plants. However both of these things really are only in abundance in the first 10 gallons or so(depends on size of roof) rain runoff because its mainly the sun that degrades the roofing. So to fix this you simply add a roof washer or something like a first flush diverter to get rid of the water that first comes off your roof. Here are a couple different examples.
I have a 1000 gallon cistern in my basement that is not in use right now. I plan on redoing my roof this summer and when I do I am still not sure whether I am going to get a metal roof or an asphalt but from the reading I have done both should be ok for rain collection as long as you divert the first bit of your water. My plan is to use the cistern to water my plants with and to also use it to do water cooling in my basement.
NickNasty
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Just to be clear from the reading I have done I don't think the type of roof you have matters too much when collecting rain water. What does matter is getting rid of the first bit of runoff. I would probably use a filter if I were drinking the water off of any type of roof. And from my research it seems that metal roofs are the more environmentally friendly as they save you in energy costs use less carbon emissions to make and last longer but asphalt are about a 3rd cheaper to put up.
Sincerely420
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Thanks for the kind words!
The more I learn, the more these things interest me. There's more too it man I'm telling you!
But I apologize too for my tone at times! I'm pretty passionate about it because it's working so well for me man!
I think I'm about to pull close to 3oz off of a plant that basically 12/12 from seed!(1w 18/6)
And I've been creeping looking at all the worm bin pots, and am def. gonna get one started here soon.
I like the concept of yours and was thinking of going DIY and doing on in a couple smart pots, but I've made my mind up that I'll go ahead an spoil myself and just buy a little 5 layer bin..
The only thing I don't like about the DIY bins are having to dig around in all the muck and seperate the castings ya know
xtrmstev
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Good info...but ...gotta tell ya, I was so distracted by his Tube beard, I had to watch it again...and Damn it...I had to just look away and listen...yea the Tube beard got me Again...Damn It!!!
Cann
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lol...thats why we love you Rrog
for real though...sincerely420, you should read one straw revolution if you havent. Fukuoka's way of thinking is drastically different than yours, and it would be a good perspective change for you. simplify, simplify, simplify.
you seem to be a guy who likes things bigger, better, and faster. that at&t commercial made me sick honestly....please don't post anymore ads up here lol. especially ones that are advocating that more is better...thats the mentality that has us destroying the earth in the pursuit of "more". less is more.
"Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication" - Da Vinci
Rrog
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Nick-that-is-nasty that is some excellent info on the water. Makes perfect sense also. Very cool of you to share this.
S420- You of all people would just dig a worm bin. Absolutely. You should do this.
Headtreep- The soil sounds really excellent. Sounds like the soil recipe that I have grown comfy with.
S420- You of all people would just dig a worm bin. Absolutely. You should do this.
Headtreep- The soil sounds really excellent. Sounds like the soil recipe that I have grown comfy with.
