Soil Food Web Gardening with Compost Teas

Sincerely420

New Member
So what does a recipe look like using high P bat guano?

1 gal h20(dechlorinated)
1/4cup "Ancient forest" compost
1tbsp EWCs
1/2tsp Kelp Meal
1tsp Fish Hydro(Neptunes Harvest)
1tsp Hi-P Bat Guano
1tsp Molasses


Bubble for 18-24hrs and whalaa! Chunky buds! I'll post some pics tomorrow!
 

Cann

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"ancient forest" is basically peat moss...with the price jacked to insane levels. id slash that from the mix and replace it with quality compost or EWC. 1tbsp EWC/gal isn't going to cut it....

also, EWC and vermicompost aren't the same thing. just wanted to clarify that. vermicompost is better IMO
 

Sincerely420

New Member
It's cost me $16 for .5 cu ft of it but on Amazon it's $30!
So maybe at your local store it's cheaper??
But you could def. try what RM said!
 

Rising Moon

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I got the idea from a style of farming called "Korean Natural Farming". Fascinating stuff, and widely practiced in Hawaii, as well as Korea, Japan and India from my understanding...

[video=youtube;xOO1_jNKbKw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOO1_jNKbKw[/video]
 

Rrog

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He's a nice fellow. I've bought products from him and have also referenced his videos. Especially his biochar video.
 

st0wandgrow

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"ancient forest" is basically peat moss...with the price jacked to insane levels. id slash that from the mix and replace it with quality compost or EWC. 1tbsp EWC/gal isn't going to cut it....

also, EWC and vermicompost aren't the same thing. just wanted to clarify that. vermicompost is better IMO
Can you clarify this Cann?

I'm using worms to compost veggie/fruit scraps and other stuff. Their secretions are castings .... at what point is the organic matter considered "vermicompost" and not ewc?
 

Sincerely420

New Member
Can you clarify this Cann?

I'm using worms to compost veggie/fruit scraps and other stuff. Their secretions are castings .... at what point is the organic matter considered "vermicompost" and not ewc?
http://www.redwormcomposting.com/worm-castings/worm-castings-vs-vermicompost-whats-the-diff/ :peace:

*edit- meant to ask the same thing but didn't get around too it. But I do see that theres a slight difference now.

Technically vermicompost is soil composted with worms and worm castings are just the castings.
 

Rrog

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The Vermicompost has advantages over pure castings. The VC has castings obiously, but the not-quite-composted VC has great benefits also, such as a high AEC (Anion Exchange Capacity). Just like fresh charcoal carbon.
 

Rising Moon

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I agree. This is why I shovel my finished compost into bins and introduce worms, BD preps and let them do thier thing with it for a few months.

Ive only got about a 5 gallon bucket left of this magic stuff, and its all saved for teas. Luckly, I have a pile just about ready to get my final treatments before I put it in bins like described above. Reguardless, time to get composting everyone! The season is here!
 

DANKSWAG

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wow, just trying to be a sponge on this thread... wow. so much good stuff. I did get myself a composter, is it equal parts green and brown? Any good basic guidelines on this?

In the interim I acquired the following: Black Gold Organic Compost, OMRI, which I will use as the compost base for next High P bat guano brew. Having a difficult time locating kelp meal and the fish stuff.

So disregarding warning about using what I concocted, I diluted to 2.6 gallon brew from 1 gal originally. Then I took half a liter (500ml) of the special dark brew I created, poured out lightly on top of soil in circles covering all the surface. Then 4 hours later I applied rain water 500ml to surface soil in same manner. That was 24 hours ago.

Here she is now.keep in mind she sits in 3 dry gallon of part black gold potting soil and super soil in a cloth pot that resides on top of a passive hydro system, so two thirds of her roots sit in a combination of silica rock and water, plenty air in those silica rocks. So the upper layer of the root zone is in the soil I poured my tea onto.

She is not showing any ill effects..
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DANKSWAG

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1 gal h20(dechlorinated)
1/4cup "Ancient forest" compost
1tbsp EWCs
1/2tsp Kelp Meal
1tsp Fish Hydro(Neptunes Harvest)
1tsp Hi-P Bat Guano
1tsp Molasses


Bubble for 18-24hrs and whalaa! Chunky buds! I'll post some pics tomorrow!
I got my kelp meal and I also found the Fish hydrolyzed, but not at a local store
http://www.neptunesharvest.com/hf-136.html

What is the difference between this and other Neptune's other products such
organic seaweed and the fish and seaweed fertilizer?

Is there any reason I could not use this in my tea?
http://www.growmore.com/products/type/seaweed-extract.html for Fish Hydro.

Oh yeah where are those dank pics you promised to post.. :bigjoint:
 

Sincerely420

New Member
I got my kelp meal and I also found the Fish hydrolyzed, but not at a local store
http://www.neptunesharvest.com/hf-136.html

NICE!

What is the difference between this and other Neptune's other products such
organic seaweed and the fish and seaweed fertilizer?

IDK bro. One has seaweed in addition lol. I'll look into a little more when I run out of amendments and have to re-up again. That'll prob be after the next run



Is there any reason I could not use this in my tea?
http://www.growmore.com/products/type/seaweed-extract.html for Fish Hydro.

It's not the same as fish hydro so it wouldn't be a substitute, and it's got a lot of water soluble micronutes in it already, so I don't think there would be a need to put any in a tea boss.

Oh yeah where are those dank pics you promised to post.. :bigjoint:
And here some dankness!
Some Seedsman White Widow!(2 different plants)





Some Local Super Lemon Haze

And some cured Delicious Seeds Critical Jack Herer!


I would say check my thread out lol but it's gotten a little outta control! The organic soil thread is still doing ok tho lol, so that one's safe to check out.
Might answer a lot of your questions without you asking! Started out with how I used my FFOF but now I'm using a recycled mix so it's not even that anymore..What it is tho, is everything that I've found relevant regarding the basic of organic growing. Not necessarily farming on the large scale, but just growin indoor in a closet or a spare room.

I would LOVE to be able to compost shit but I don't have that luxury so I'm stuck with buying bagged compost..
About to buy a worm bin here soon tho, so at least that something we can do easily indoors regarding composting...:peace:
 
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