paperfetti
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ahhh so it is working...cool..thnx
I will leave this one for Bugs...Someone said that mesh pots give the roots too much oxygen. Absolutely false.
what i mean is my res. is 70 gallons..i use half that or a little more than half..so is it 1 tsp/gallon at 35 gallons or 70??Isn't it the same thing? Whether you measure it in the res of before pouring it in?
Thanks for the info grower. This is my deli ma, i want to grow as many plants as i can to get as much as i can and i have access to as many clones as i need to run multiple tables on a perpetual harvest but if growing in straight 4 inch rockwool cubes crammed together won't yeild as much as fewer plants in 5 inch net pots then i might as well have less to take care of in terms of less plants. So whats the verdict? Cubes or Net Pots? Thanks againMesh pots work great. The roots do get tangled in them. In sog you are growing small plants anyways. A 4 inch rockwool cube can handle any plant. Someone said that mesh pots give the roots too much oxygen. Absolutely false. The more oxygen the better. Air and oxygen are too different things. If your roots are hanging in the AIR they may dry out. But oxygen can be applied dissolved in water. Sog with 5 inch mesh pots and 4 inch rockwool cubes is easy to get gram a watt. I'm going to do it with the seeds i get from the grow happing now. Wish i could do it the first time but i need the seeds and therefore the males. Check it out on my journal. Does anyone else get one gram a what fairly easily with hydro and after maybe their 3rd grow? People always talk about it but its so easy. The first grow I did had a 1000 watt hps with about 80% of the light hitting everything but the plants. Temp prob 98 literally. Got maybe 8 ounces dry. Thats weak as hell. About .25 grams/watt. Second time same room soil and a 400 watt hps only. We painted the room this time and put plants at every angle hitting all the light. We got 10 ounces then. The 3rd grow we switched to hydro and added the little plants to the side. We used to 400s this time and got about .9 watt. After that it was easy. Hopefully some people decide to add some small plants to the light that would otherwise be wasted. It could easily mean a few more ounces from a 400. just add 20 tiny little plants all around or so and be laughing. These were 90 day grows. Someone also said the clay pellets are great. I'm going to try them. Never done them. Thanks man. I got my info from some of the people on this thread and all over this site. this is a great site. I want to know how others get 1 gram watt please with sog. I love to hear about super clean efficient setups.
Neither... use regular pots...So whats the verdict? Cubes or Net Pots? Thanks again
update on how my things are going, how do you like it?
Day 30
1120PPM
6.0PH
Basically on autopilot today. Starting to plump up and fill in. There are a few browning pistols starting to show. 3 weeks left by my calendar. The plants will, of course, have the final say on when they are ready. I am a little concerned about the fan discoloration. My PPM was pretty high though (2.5EC+) so a little burn is to be expected. The buds look beautiful though.
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Buds!
what the hell is that supposed to mean?Except for the stuff Bugs insists on doing... that stuff is all here...
How not to grow dope...
Stay tuned...
start them off on 1/4 strength nutesmy sour d seedling sprouted...what ppm's should i start my seedlings at?
nope....i'm above it man.I will leave this one for Bugs...
pots...because even if you can get away with flooding rw that often with no ill effects it still will not oxygenate the root zone as well as hydroton. period...end of story.Thanks for all the help guys, that has answered a lot of q's. On that link he says he floods once every 2 hours with the lights on for a total of 6 waterings. If one had access to a lot of clones and was doing this for a "commecial style setup" would u use the pots or just straight rw.
i think your gettin' better.dont mind me im just trying this quote thing out
no, only top off with fresh ph'd water and let your plants take what they need. then change it out and clean it every 2-3 weeks. al does 2 i do 3 .yup, or i respond to everything and get a lil silly. damn white widow......i had to erase all the other crap you said just to get this lil piece..is that how you do it??
you assume correctly sir.....great enough to bring 35-40 a gram all fuckin day.....i mean if you were into that sorta thingso i assume that ya buds taste great otherwise you would have done something about it...so no change in quality?
BTW..when your plants are starting to take in nutes..do i just add nutes straight to res. to get ppm's back in the 1400??
well unless your talking about something non sog related....the water your "using" IS your res. and yes it's per gallon of whatever sized container it is ultimately going into.when people say things like " 1tsp per gallon..do they mean the size of ya res (gallon wise) or do they mean the gallons your using of water?..i always thought it went by the gallons of water your using
..if thats how you do it..then i think igot it..im really starting to digg you bugs...very cooldude...nohomo!!!...damn you said you be charging these suckers..ahh uh,i mean clients 35 a g??..did i get that right??i think your gettin' better.
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pots...because even if you can get away with flooding rw that often with no ill effects it still will not oxygenate the root zone as well as hydroton. period...end of story.
i think your gettin' better.
. so if my ppms fall under 1400 just top off with fresh phd water??..what do you ph ya fresh water to?no, only top off with fresh ph'd water and let your plants take what they need
the reason i asked is this...How do I tell if my PPM/EC is too high or too low?lno, only top off with fresh ph'd water andet your plants take what they need.
How do I tell if my PPM/EC is too high or too low?
Contributed by: ~Shabang
It's simple to find out if you are using too much food or not enough by watching the nutrient concentration levels in your tanks day to day. Don't be concerned with the exact reading, rather watch how it rises and falls from each day to the next. The differences between when you put the solution into the tank and the readings you get several hours later or the next day are what tell you if your plant is eating, drinking or happy.
Start with 1.00 EC (or a SAFE nutrient strength). Next day, if it reads 1.4, it means your plants have been using water and your nutrient solution is becoming more concentrated. This means the concentration of nutrients is too high, so you dilute.
If the meter reads lower than the previous day, 0.7 say, it tells you that the plants are eating nutrients faster than they are drinking water, so you should increase your nutrient strength. If it remains the same, your feeding schedule is on target for now. The nutrient/water intake fluctuates with the growth of the plant, so you must continually monitor it day to day.
Your plants will tell you the optimum nutrient levels. When they are receiving optimum food and water, the readings remain constant. The more you do it, the easier it gets. The reason no one can tell you what PPM/EC levels to use is because every garden is different and every plant has different requirements due to their particular environment. That's why you have a ball park starting figure, but after that your plants will tell you almost exactly what they require.
Well thanks you Bugs...Those are some kind words...btw....all of you guy, nice plants .....gypsy i'm so impressed you've been able to keep goin brother and not only get by but fuckin churn out a top notch pro set up like that. very well done sir.
we might have to consider you for membership into the baronhood.
i know a guy.