SOG growers wanted !!!

[dmxcrew03402]

Sorry to get in the middle of your thread but i have a couple quick questions about S.o.G method using the flood and drain tables. I was wondering if u had access to a lot of clones why wouldn't u want to just cram as many 4 inch cubes on your tray instead of using the net pots? I'm about to venture into an S.o.G op and was just wondering the main differences between the two styles. Appreciate the help

 

[1982grower]

heres my sog grow it just started and is 8 days old. well i guess at this time it is 9 days old. 10 LR2 hoping for alot of bud

 

[livesoul]

Sorry to get in the middle of your thread but i have a couple quick questions about S.o.G method using the flood and drain tables. I was wondering if u had access to a lot of clones why wouldn't u want to just cram as many 4 inch cubes on your tray instead of using the net pots? I'm about to venture into an S.o.G op and was just wondering the main differences between the two styles. Appreciate the help

Two main reasons, they would be so packed that not enough light would penetrate, also the roots would tangle. Usually your moving sections of the area around so tangled roots would damage your plants.

 

[livesoul]

net pots also aren't really recommended, too much air and the roots escape and tangle as well.

 

[dmxcrew03402]

Two main reasons, they would be so packed that not enough light would penetrate, also the roots would tangle. Usually your moving sections of the area around so tangled roots would damage your plants.

I was gonna have a 1000 watt digi on each 4x4 table but check out this growS.O.G method he does the cube method

 

[doogleef]

You will get plenty of light. The biggest issue with cramming in 4" cubes is the water frequency. You can only flood rockwool once a day. If you can get 5-6" square posts and fill them with medium you can flood more often (hydroton) you will be better off.

4" cubes WILL WORK. 5" square pots full of medium will work better.

 

[GypsyBush]

4" cubes WILL WORK. 5" square pots full of medium will work better.

better or different? I think one could argue that forever...

 

[Return of the Spork]

Better =)

 

[GypsyBush]

sounds like a one sided opinion to me... ... lol...

The link I followed showed some pretty nice plants...

 

[Return of the Spork]

Of course it is opinion, but it is an opinion based off experience. Root growth alone in hydroton vs rockwool was no contest in my grow. I had a clone transplant into my system and one transplant into a RW cube and the difference in growth was pretty large. Of course I don't have pictures so take it as you will, and hydroton comes with lots of other bullshit that you don't have to deal with RW in. If you like watering once a day, then RW is your medium, but I liked the fast growth. Also my kitties love the random pebble on the ground to bat around. =)

 

[GypsyBush]

Oh! I hear you Spork...

I wouldn't go that route either, but I am SURE someone else could show up here and tell us RW haters all the great things about it...

Nothing is as one sided as we make it to be...

Just keeping it real and UNabsolute...

​

 

[paperfetti]

alright you.....this is my last post, i ga go ni night.

i have decided that i am going to make this sog bible we speak of and condense als threads and this one and a couple others to make a one stop shop.

NICCCEEE!!! dammit ladys and gents, i'm going for it. i'll do it similar to stinkbud (still mad at you btw, but i give credit when due) and the way he put together his aero/nft pdf ...fuckin brilliant and beautifull. it will take me the rest of my life i'm sure but i'm getting started this weekend. and when its done....look out for my ego......it'll be nasty. al's really gonna be proud of me when he reads it but he will probably take me down a notch or a 1000 for being such a weed baron.







i never flush so i wont comment but i remember reading about you or someone having epsom salt issues ...i hope this ist..

anyway i use a heaping tablespoon

i hope this is it..dont know what i just did...in my 20 gallon tubs once a week. anymore than that and eeewwwwwwweeeeeeeeeee, no thanks


i cant tell you i am the weed baron it just happens for me . but if you wanted to try.......hit the quote button like normal then when you go to the reply screen it puts their quote in the box.....you highlight the sentence/s you want to quote then click on the yellow square quote box in the upper right side of the actual reply box. (if your mouse goes over it , it will say "quote"
then click it and bam!!! it wraps the words in a quote do hicky and you just put your first letter of your response on the right side of the last quote bar.

damn i just confused myself.....lol give it a shot. you can do it!

i hope this is it

 

[paperfetti]

Ahhh, i cant get it...are u erasing any part of peoples post after you"quote" it??..anyway...what ppm do i start my lil sour diesel seedling on

 

[paperfetti]

YO I WAS WONDERING..I GOT A BUD DRYER FROM EBAY,BUT IT DIDNT COME WITH ANYTHING AS FAR AS HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE TO GET YA BUDS DRY...IM GOING TO DO MY OWN TASTE TEST OF COURSE,BUT WAS WONDERING ANYBODY FAMILIAR WITH BUD DRYERS (CANT FIND A PIC)..IT DOESNT have the heating element to it aS al b.'s,but i think it will dry in 5 days..but on another note..how do you guys know when ya plants are ready to harvest???

 

[dmxcrew03402]

You will get plenty of light. The biggest issue with cramming in 4" cubes is the water frequency. You can only flood rockwool once a day. If you can get 5-6" square posts and fill them with medium you can flood more often (hydroton) you will be better off.

4" cubes WILL WORK. 5" square pots full of medium will work better.

Thanks for all the help guys, that has answered a lot of q's. On that link he says he floods once every 2 hours with the lights on for a total of 6 waterings. If one had access to a lot of clones and was doing this for a "commecial style setup" would u use the pots or just straight rw.

 

[paperfetti]

Oh! I hear you Spork...

I wouldn't go that route either, but I am SURE someone else could show up here and tell us RW haters all the great things about it...

Nothing is as one sided as we make it to be...

Just keeping it real and UNabsolute...

​

dont mind me im just trying this quote thing out

 

[1982grower]

Mesh pots work great. The roots do get tangled in them. In sog you are growing small plants anyways. A 4 inch rockwool cube can handle any plant. Someone said that mesh pots give the roots too much oxygen. Absolutely false. The more oxygen the better. Air and oxygen are too different things. If your roots are hanging in the AIR they may dry out. But oxygen can be applied dissolved in water. Sog with 5 inch mesh pots and 4 inch rockwool cubes is easy to get gram a watt. I'm going to do it with the seeds i get from the grow happing now. Wish i could do it the first time but i need the seeds and therefore the males. Check it out on my journal. Does anyone else get one gram a what fairly easily with hydro and after maybe their 3rd grow? People always talk about it but its so easy. The first grow I did had a 1000 watt hps with about 80% of the light hitting everything but the plants. Temp prob 98 literally. Got maybe 8 ounces dry. Thats weak as hell. About .25 grams/watt. Second time same room soil and a 400 watt hps only. We painted the room this time and put plants at every angle hitting all the light. We got 10 ounces then. The 3rd grow we switched to hydro and added the little plants to the side. We used to 400s this time and got about .9 watt. After that it was easy. Hopefully some people decide to add some small plants to the light that would otherwise be wasted. It could easily mean a few more ounces from a 400. just add 20 tiny little plants all around or so and be laughing. These were 90 day grows. Someone also said the clay pellets are great. I'm going to try them. Never done them. Thanks man. I got my info from some of the people on this thread and all over this site. this is a great site. I want to know how others get 1 gram watt please with sog. I love to hear about super clean efficient setups.

 

[paperfetti]

i have decided that i am going to make this sog bible we speak of and condense als threads and this one and a couple others to make a one stop shop.

i had to erase all the other crap you said just to get this lil piece..is that how you do it??

i never flush

so i assume that ya buds taste great otherwise you would have done something about it...so no change in quality?


BTW..when your plants are starting to take in nutes..do i just add nutes straight to res. to get ppm's back in the 1400??

 

[paperfetti]

is there any reason why my "fox farm big bloom" (bat guano) just sits at the bottom of my res.?..cant tell if the plants are actually using this stuff because when i got to clean out res. its just sitting there..i dont get it

 

[1982grower]

Its using the nutrients even though you throw away the dirt. Its water soluble. The plant doesnt suck up dirt, just the dissolved nutes.