SOG growers wanted !!!

paperfetti

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it's just so frustrating... I need to be in bed... Not climbing around like a monkey....

I run what works for me and my strains... I have noticed nute burn at 1500 ppm, so i don't go there...

As for ph... My res really likes 6.1... If i leave it be.. That's where it like to sit...

The plants have not shown any dislike, but i do not leave it there long.. As soon as it hits 6.0...6.1 i am phing it down...

Also, i am not sure what brand ppm meter he is using, as there are variations...

You just gotta use the info as a base.... Tweak it over the months to suit your needs and personal mojo...

what works for you is the best way possible... But we have to start with a known quantity, otherwise there is no base for comparison...
indeed..i tihik i will run wit 5.5-5.8 and drift the most to 6.0..still no new growth or anything but there not getting any worse either...i will give it till the end of week to see changes..cant figure whats wro\ng right now
 

grandpabear3

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Wow man thats some serious shit..wish icouldhelp..the best of luck to ya..doesnt seem appropiate at the moment,but i was just wondering..how come your rangfes are slightly lower than al b's? I.e he says he runs his ppms 13-1500...you say 12-1400..he also says he ph at 5.2 - 5.7..did you notice a change in the way he does it in comparison the way you do it?
hey man ....al runs all his tables , start to finish at 1400 ppm and keeps his ph at 5.8 and doesnt adjust down until it hits 6.3:mrgreen:
 

sparkafire

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Gentlemen;

It has been an honor to have grown both as a teacher and grower with you here on RIU but I think its time to roll the last one. I have made a lot of great friends and a few dumb ass enemies "fuckem" and i just think its time to get on with it. I am really proud of the fact that the core group here has really stepped up and have become very knowledgeable and are way better at giving advise than I am. I have watched your grows become ones that people come here to learn from and that guys is something to be proud of. I know if i was just starting out i would come to these threads to learn how although i might not get along with bugs because he is kind of an ass!! LOL

Remember everyone READING + RESEARCHING = REWARDS

Dont make me come back and fuckin remind you of it!!

Your friend in green

Sparky :weed:
 

Return of the Spork

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Leaving? Not like this place is an obligation. Keep the bookmark, come by now and then.

Unless of course you are quitting mj altogether and just need to stay away from temptation...but I would hope that isn't the case.
 

paperfetti

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hey man ....al runs all his tables , start to finish at 1400 ppm and keeps his ph at 5.8 and doesnt adjust down until it hits 6.3:mrgreen:
I do find the 'production line' style makes it a little easier to keep track of what mix to put in which tank, though. I know tank #1 will always get mixed to 900-1100ppm, tank 2 will be 1300-1500ppm + whatever the PK-13-14 bumps it up to in week 3. Tank 3 gets 1300-1500ppm, no PK, and tank 4 can be simply pH adjusted tap water- but I usually don't bother with flushing in the last week as many recommend. I don't notice any difference between buds from plants which had plain water in the last week and those which just continued to get a 1300-1500ppm Flores mix up until harvest day.
this from al's page....
 

doogleef

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Your friend in green

Sparky :weed:
You will be missed, Sparky. Come back and see us from time to time. Keep your lights bright, my friend. Peace. :bigjoint:

I do find the 'production line' style makes it a little easier to keep track of what mix to put in which tank, though. I know tank #1 will always get mixed to 900-1100ppm, tank 2 will be 1300-1500ppm + whatever the PK-13-14 bumps it up to in week 3. Tank 3 gets 1300-1500ppm, no PK, and tank 4 can be simply pH adjusted tap water- but I usually don't bother with flushing in the last week as many recommend. I don't notice any difference between buds from plants which had plain water in the last week and those which just continued to get a 1300-1500ppm Flores mix up until harvest day.
this from al's page....
You can make this is hard as you wanna make it, man. As long as it werx and you deal with the added steps then go for it. I use a very simple (and cheap) feed schedule that works a treat.
 

paperfetti

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You will be missed, Sparky. Come back and see us from time to time. Keep your lights bright, my friend. Peace. :bigjoint:



You can make this is hard as you wanna make it, man. As long as it werx and you deal with the added steps then go for it. I use a very simple (and cheap) feed schedule that works a treat.
i would like to hear ya cheap feed schedule if you dont mind
 

grandpabear3

New Member
I do find the 'production line' style makes it a little easier to keep track of what mix to put in which tank, though. I know tank #1 will always get mixed to 900-1100ppm, tank 2 will be 1300-1500ppm + whatever the PK-13-14 bumps it up to in week 3. Tank 3 gets 1300-1500ppm, no PK, and tank 4 can be simply pH adjusted tap water- but I usually don't bother with flushing in the last week as many recommend. I don't notice any difference between buds from plants which had plain water in the last week and those which just continued to get a 1300-1500ppm Flores mix up until harvest day.
this from al's page....
ok i am not gonna wig out on you like sparky did.....however i have read and re-read all of his threads and yes, on post# 21 al says, well....you just quoted him so you know what he said. but let me say this, and it's important for us all.

anyone who does this well will acknowledge the tremendous learning curve. al will be the first to tell you that he is not exempt from this. his mine and your grows WILL change and the beauty of that mans threads is that they chronicle all the ups and downs of his op. such as ppm and medium. if you dont read it all (and i understand why, fuck its huge ) then you will miss these pivotal plot points in the show, lol.
the short answer is that he changed it. he changes lots of things. he still learns new ways to improve yields and cut costs and he passes all that along to us in his painfully long threads. some will argue with his methods and fail miserably and some will do just fine. i am a skewl of fuct student as is everyone here ....even sparkys mean ass. i promise i wont try to steer you in any direction but the right one. i am pretty excited about your grow and look forward to seeing it do its thang:hump: and i'm not castagating you in front of the class 'cause thats not how i do it. i think it's good that you just quoted my friend and hero , that means your willing to read....sparky would be proud.
 

doogleef

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I use the Lucas formula. GH FloraNova Grow at 8ml/gal. Start to finish. Comes out to about 1050 on my .5 meter. Would be about 1400 on yours. That's it. No additives. No defficiencies. No flush. You don't even have to dump your res if you addback the right strengh with your refill water.

The only additive i use is H2O2
 

Wohjew

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ok clones are ready tommorrow correct me if im wrong , we will soak cubes in ph of 5.5 for 30 mins , plug plants into their new homes , hand water till roots show at bottom, when should we introduce the nutrients to the plants. i was told from a friend not to right away. 64 plant ebb flow system thnaks for the help
 

grandpabear3

New Member
ok clones are ready tommorrow
i bet your excited
correct me if im wrong ,
oh, you know we will
we will soak cubes in ph of 5.5 for 30 mins , plug plants into their new homes ,
dont forget to drain them out a lil....salad spinners are perfect for this but a few quick snaps of the wrist will fling out the right amount of water also.
hand water till roots show at bottom,
thats about it. some spray water with a squirt bottle and some dip water. either way just make sure you ph the water.
when should we introduce the nutrients to the plants. i was told from a friend not to right away.
he told you right. wait till you veg them or if your not vegging then wait til they go into flower.
64 plant ebb flow system thnaks for the help
sounds like someone has a promising financial future.;-)
 

GypsyBush

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Hey Bugs...


I still have no power in the room...

Sucks huh?!?!?

Extension cords everywhere....

Fire waiting to happen... but I gotta wait until next week to get all the supplies on the 220v job...

:eyesmoke:
 

grandpabear3

New Member
i was hoping to avoid talking about your situation....you dont want my mojo on you with regards to fire. please be vigilant and careful gypsy......dirty hippie or no i've grown to not completely hate you. dirty hippie

as long as the extension cords are not the little skinny brown ones then guess what folks.....they are exactly the same thing as running wire. hell it's like free romex as long as the gauge is sufficient. one hell of a way to make your op "mobile" for superfast tear downs. i hope you get it under control brother.
 

paperfetti

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quick question....al b. said he runs 1ml/l every 3-4 days of 50% h202....just trying to figure something out,my tank is 70g and that came out to 264.84 or something like that per liter...thats obviously 264ml..all i have right now is sorry 3% h2o2 and its 473ML per bottle..should i ration out atleast 80% of the entire bottle being its not the 50% required?
 

grandpabear3

New Member
the 3% will work i have to go look for the ratio on that one but its insane and not worth doing due to the amount you would have to use and keep buying. but if needed in a pinch it will work. and it would be more than a bottle or 2 i can remember that much.....i'll go find it and brb
 

paperfetti

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ok i am not gonna wig out on you like sparky did.....however i have read and re-read all of his threads and yes, on post# 21 al says, well....you just quoted him so you know what he said. but let me say this, and it's important for us all.

anyone who does this well will acknowledge the tremendous learning curve. al will be the first to tell you that he is not exempt from this. his mine and your grows WILL change and the beauty of that mans threads is that they chronicle all the ups and downs of his op. such as ppm and medium. if you dont read it all (and i understand why, fuck its huge )]then you will miss these pivotal plot points in the show, lol.
the short answer is that he changed it. he changes lots of things. he still learns new ways to improve yields and cut costs and he passes all that along to us in his painfully long threads. some will argue with his methods and fail miserably and some will do just fine. i am a skewl of fuct student as is everyone here ....even sparkys mean ass. i promise i wont try to steer you in any direction but the right one. i am pretty excited about your grow and look forward to seeing it do its thang:hump: and i'm not castagating you in front of the class 'cause thats not how i do it. i think it's good that you just quoted my friend and hero , that means your willing to read....sparky would be proud.
your truly right..you do miss alot when you half step,but they are painfully lonnnnnggg..after a blunt (or 2) my eyes get super heavy after reading some people claims and theory against al,when all i wanna knows is the info at being the best farmer i can be..and taking in gyps claim about learning to grow and be happy that the plants were nice enough to give you its beautiful treats,but i wanna learn to get an oz per plant SOG fuct style grow..FUCT THAT!! :bigjoint:
AND I QUOTE:"I AINT PLAYIN WITH YOU MOTHERFUCKERS!!..R.I.P BERNIE MACK
 

Wohjew

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wow thanks for the reply :) awsome im excited and its 2 tables not just one , i should only bet doing one but its too late now mhwaaaa ive never grown in RW only DWC buckets i have no room for error lol. will be using advanced nutes sensi grow/bloom A+B
 
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