So you think you deserve $15/hr. at Mc-Donald's? Meet your replacement.

UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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AquariusPanta said:
Safety and opinions come from two different natures BUT OK.

You guys ever see the movie Tomorrowland? In the movie, one of the actresses is in class and all of her teachers are preaching how the world is collapsing and it's so awful. She eagerly raises her hand multiple times, only to be vocally shunned or ignored. Eventually she gets the opportunity to ask a professor about what their solution was; he had no answer.

What's your solutions to getting us the ideal world, fellas?
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i don't know, paying workers enough so that they don't have to stand in line for food stanps after a 40 hour week seems like a good start.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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bu$hleaguer said:
No, I'm not saying anything about the employee themselves. That has nothing to do with it. I'm saying people are expecting something that's not in the agreement. McDonald's never told any employees that they'd be able to afford certain things by working there. They told them what their wage was, and the employee argreed. End of situation. What the forces of the world around this agreement are don't matter because all that does is the agreement between the employee and the employer. Family member died? Car troubles? So be it. McDonald's can give them a raise or a little cash or whatever to help, if they like to do that kind of thing which I would, or they ignore it. Whatever. It's a job and a job has always been a way to earn money. What that money can get you will always change.
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You're not seeing the macro economic implications of what you're saying. Unfortunately, until you do, I can't really have an intelligent conversation with you about it.

The consequences of the differing policies, WRIT LARGE ACROSS SOCIETY, will indeed lead to the very changes you doubt.
 
TBoneJack

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ttystikk said:
1. Why? Since when do we 'have to' do it? Have you looked down that rabbit hole, brother? Please do... and beware, it's nasty.

2. Maybe this is because they make a business model out of hurting people?
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I do believe, sir, that if the US was complacent in regards to the political and military ills of the world, that the world would be a much worse place than it is now. That's just a personal opinion, that has nothing to do with the fact that the US budget every year has this defacto-standard provision built in...

You're opinion is just as good as mine. But I encourage you to give it a second thought.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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TBoneJack said:
I do believe, sir, that if the US was complacent in regards to the political and military ills of the world, that the world would be a much worse place than it is now. That's just a personal opinion, that has nothing to do with the fact that the US budget every year has this defacto-standard provision built in...

You're opinion is just as good as mine. But I encourage you to give it a second thought.
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So here's the skinny from behind the curtain, brother- because I have multiple family members who spent their careers in the State Department and we've discussed How Things Work at some length, I actually have a much better than passing understanding of the process and its, ahem, 'flaws.'

The truth is that we steal from the world through the world bank and then destabilize countries so we can profit from selling weapons.

That just doesn't sound like 'good world cop' to me.

And that just one scam of hundreds we support or directly perpetuate around the world.

That rabbit hole is pretty nasty...
 
AquariusPanta

AquariusPanta

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ttystikk said:
Weren't we all? Cut him some slack, at least he's trying!
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Thank you for your empathy! Now can I peacefully exit the discussion? I only entered it to demonstrate what I learned in school and to add understanding to the conversation, not to ravish into a never-ending comment battle about who knows the most.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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TBoneJack said:
Is that what you need, ass wipe, to make you feel as though you're in the same arena with me intellectually? To find a misspelled word typed by an extremely high person who doesn't ever use spell check anyway?

Then I do feel sorry for you, sir.
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tell me again how the defense budget makes a big mac cost more.
 
AquariusPanta

AquariusPanta

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TBoneJack said:
Is that what you need, ass wipe, to make you feel as though you're in the same arena with me intellectually? To find a misspelled word typed by an extremely high person who doesn't ever use spell check anyway?

Then I do feel sorry for you, sir.
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That's what I'm saying! This guy is unbelievable!
 
TBoneJack

TBoneJack

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ttystikk said:
Respectfully, I'm trying to live up to that standard and stay above the name calling fray.
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I do too, tty, but I can't help talking trash with Buck. I hope you'll know that I'm a nice guy in reality who just likes to state his opinion and still get along with everyone.
 
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TBoneJack

TBoneJack

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ttystikk said:
I was the teacher's pet of every economic prof I ever spoke to, because they understood that I 'got it'.

The connection is taxes. Other than that, not a lot.
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Plz explain in as much detail as you have time and feel comfortable...I'm interested in economics, but just don't know much about it...
 
bu$hleaguer

bu$hleaguer

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UncleBuck said:
you act like it's your right to make a profit off an ice cream shop, even if it means paying non-livable wages to employees to do so.

such entitlement.
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That's not at all what I said, don't put words in my mouth. I don't agree at all with mistreating employees. Do you seriously think the new guy at mcdonalds should start rocking $15/hr? What about the entry level admin who has been making $15/hr and went through a year of training there to get where she is? Does she suddenly get a raise because daisy the zit faced, greasy burger flipper did?

Just confused- did all ya'll grow up wishing and hoping to be a mcdonalds employee? You know when you played that game and one wanted to be an astronaut and one wanted to be a doctor, a pro football player, etc? Did you assume that McDonalds would solve all your questions and that would be all you needed?

Of course you didn't. You equated success with something else. Mcdonalds wasn't it.
 
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