So you 'Juana Cut Corners, eh? Simple Comparison Grow in Progress...

Thanks C.Indica - pretty hard to mistake a set of balls for a female flower, I guess. Well, 2 left. Next go round won't be unknown; I'll go with either fresh clones or identified seed (TGA subcool - Jack the Ripper or some such). Peace.

Don't fear the unknown, some of the worlds best cannabis was unknown landrace.
I want Jackthe Ripper somuch!
I just can't convince myself to drop $60 when Ihave so many seedsto playwith already.

I hope that's whatyou have, I get so annoying byunlabeled seeds.

Sorry I keep forgetting to use Internet eExplorer, my current browser hatesrolitup.

Hey gang,

I haven't posted much, because as you growers know, ain't much happening just yet. I have no giant buds to show off, but I snapped a few orange glowy pics so you can see what we're dealing with. January 7th was first day of switch, so this is what, day 16 or 17 (week 2 going on 3, about).

I have only two plants left, judging by their varying heights, one is heavier in the sativa dominance, and the other is probably closer in percentages for a hybrid. Both are slow to flower much, just giving me a few glimpses of pre-flower - I do not know if this is because I'm 'effing something up, or that I grew these girls too long in veg (tallest is definitely 3 feet already) - but the roots are white and smell great, the foliage is still green with little to no unwanted purpling in the stems - I believe they are doing well, I just might be underfeeding as far as timeline is concerned because they're big girls.

Okay, enough yammering - sorry the pics aren't great, but I'll try to take my time when there's something worth really seeing. Thanks again for swinging through everyone. Peace!

They will fower eventually, trouble is until they do they will keep stretching. Im kinda worried my sativas are going to rebel against the "almighty 12/12" and just keep growing! my worste nightmare

My fear too, Holmes. I've been watching though, and the stretch has definitely slowed - first seven days were insane, past seven have been millimeters only...we'll see. I guess there are worse things than a long legged girl. Peace.

Tallest girl is now close to 50 inches, with strong limbs - reminds me of bamboo. I spoke with my cooperative owner about the size of this girl, and they stated I could expect a long flowering time, but if I treat her right, she should give me some nice flowers.

The next trick for me is to learn how to train these girls (and probably flip 'em a tad earlier); you will note that I will probably produce some popcorn bud again because of my lack in proper trimming. Anyway, here are some pictures - sorry for the orange glow in all, they are quite green and healthy looking, with nice white root balls that smell good. I'll be doing a res change tonight or tomorrow morning. Peace.

yup time to hit them with some PK
Did you notice which internodes stretch the most? is it more the bottom middle or top internodes that stretch the most? Or all about the same
Gunna be a long flower time, looks very sativa. That explains the long wait before flowers after 12/12
What do good smelling roots smell like?

The most noticeable stretch was at the top, that's where the largest spaces between internodes are. I'm using two additives currently, floraliscious plus and liquid koolbloom - this is the pk regimen recommended by the GH website nutrient calculator. As for roots, ah it's so easy to tell good root smells from bad. Good roots smell very fresh, like bean sprouts or peat moss, very clean earthy smell. The slightest rot throws in a very noticeable dish rag scent - it makes your nose curl a little. Peace.

Looking good! You may have some monsters, I always try and flip sativa early...most plants double in height during bloom, a sativa can more than double. High ceilings?

MomaPug said:

Looking good! You may have some monsters, I always try and flip sativa early...most plants double in height during bloom, a sativa can more than double. High ceilings?

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I find the "plants can double" thing pretty vague when it comes to Sativa's. I just saw a thread on ICmag with the same strain I'm growing, he flipped them at 14 inches and they finished at just under 7 feet... im not gunna do the math, but double triple quadruple... it just doesnt seem adequate in predicting the stretch. I have the same strain and my plants are 14 inches right now lol... I dont have room for a 7 foot plant. I'm going to arm myself with some bush master

Thedillestpickle said:

I find the "plants can double" thing pretty vague when it comes to Sativa's. I just saw a thread on ICmag with the same strain I'm growing, he flipped them at 14 inches and they finished at just under 7 feet... im not gunna do the math, but double triple quadruple... it just doesnt seem adequate in predicting the stretch. I have the same strain and my plants are 14 inches right now lol... I dont have room for a 7 foot plant. I'm going to arm myself with some bush master

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For sure every strain has it's own ideas about how much it's going to stretch. I think practice with a strain is the only way to predict stretch....like growing out the same plant more than one time as there are pheno's within strains that may also have different habits. Also factors like what kind of lights, humidity, temp, feeding, indoor/outdoor etc. play a part, lots of variation.

It is just my observation that most indica plants or heavy indica crosses that I have flowered indoors, under HPS lighting, average doubling their size, where as sativa can't really be predicted. That's why I said "sativa's can more than double" in my post (didn't want to scare OP too much ). I have had some really get out of hand; had to super crop a sativa heavy blueberry half way through bud once...."broke" her in half...was hard for me to do but she didn't mind at all....phew!

Bushmaster works, but you have to plan ahead.

This took me forever to write.....baked!!!

Happy growing

Okay, it's time to face the horrible truth: my girl is too damn tall - I'm out of height in my tent. I hear talk of super cropping and bush master; obviously I'll research these terms with appropriate Internet skills, but please chime in and start pitching me ideas - I'm tired of failures, and I think I can pull some good stuff off these plants, but damn she's a tall one!

Fykshun said:

Okay, it's time to face the horrible truth: my girl is too damn tall - I'm out of height in my tent. I hear talk of super cropping and bush master; obviously I'll research these terms with appropriate Internet skills, but please chime in and start pitching me ideas - I'm tired of failures, and I think I can pull some good stuff off these plants, but damn she's a tall one!

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Look at it this way...bigger plant = more yield The first crop I ever did inside about freaked me out...all way to big.....but it worked out in the long run, they are going to grow and they are going to bud.....

Super crop vid on Kevin's thread for you.

Thanks, moma! I snagged the clip link - I think I can manage to pick up this new trick (well, new to me). I'll update soon to see what I've done with this giantess.

Super Cropping research complete - thank you all (and MomaPug, for following me on two threads - I hope that's not annoying).

So, I have this tall ass plant and tiny ass space; a while back two main branches (I did top this one), got tangled in my indica (the short n' stubby next to her - I know, I should grow same canopy height, but I just set her res in a stack of empty buckets, like a high-chair ), and the next thing I know, snap and snap, bent and broken in all the jostle. I fucking freaked; had my girl grab me some tape while I held the branches up - shit man, I damn near had a heart attack. Now I'm seeking advice on this crazy tall wench, and come to find out, I should have just let her rest over! I love this hobby - it always presents me with interesting knowledge in surprising ways.

Here are some pics to give you a height and growth look (Secret Jardin Pro DRII 120 4'lx4'wx6.5'h) - these were taken yesterday and today (just into the 4th week of flower - if my math isn't too far off). Tall girl is now at 56" (I'll try and snag a measuring tape shot at lights on, for fun). You'll also note the creased bruise on one of my branches and the clear tape on another - hehe...super cropping "accident." Peace.

Fykshun said:

Super Cropping research complete - thank you all (and MomaPug, for following me on two threads - I hope that's not annoying).

So, I have this tall ass plant and tiny ass space; a while back two main branches (I did top this one), got tangled in my indica (the short n' stubby next to her - I know, I should grow same canopy height, but I just set her res in a stack of empty buckets, like a high-chair ), and the next thing I know, snap and snap, bent and broken in all the jostle. I fucking freaked; had my girl grab me some tape while I held the branches up - shit man, I damn near had a heart attack. Now I'm seeking advice on this crazy tall wench, and come to find out, I should have just let her rest over! I love this hobby - it always presents me with interesting knowledge in surprising ways.

Here are some pics to give you a height and growth look (Secret Jardin Pro DRII 120 4'lx4'wx6.5'h) - these were taken yesterday and today (just into the 4th week of flower - if my math isn't too far off). Tall girl is now at 56" (I'll try and snag a measuring tape shot at lights on, for fun). You'll also note the creased bruise on one of my branches and the clear tape on another - hehe...super cropping "accident." Peace.

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You have nice size pots to support those monsters... I bet you get some nice buds

I flip my girls at 24" I do have limited ceiling height, but it works out pretty good. 52"...wowzer, that's all I can say!! It is funny how things work sometime isn't it.... here you thought you ruined your girls and as it turned out it would have been a good thing to let them fall over

I am enjoying following your thread, I always like to give extra support to my homey's... and new growers are fun I understand about going to Kevin's thread where you can get feedback from some of the best growers around, it's a great resource...since I hang out there so much too, it just looks like I am stalking you....really I am just enjoying your grow. lol

thanks for the compliments to the thread all the growers in it have made it that way including u moma and fyskun every contribution makes a difference to sumone

Updates gang - not much to report so far, which is good in my case (if you've been following this whole journey). So far my biggest problem is, ironically, size. Long Tall Sally, as I'm now calling her, is just going to have to bend and flatten against the ceiling. I read up a ton on super cropping, and while it certainly can be done during flower, it causes a shit-ton of stress and therefor elongates the flower time significantly, but I'm already looking at a laboriously long flower time given the size of this girl. My other girl is doing perfectly, though I could probably have flipped her earlier too.

Given the height of these plants, and the total reflective interior of the tent, I decided to remove the reflector from my cooltube. This is more to reduce the risk of uncontrolled stem breakage during res changes than to increase the light - I realize that I'm beyond that now; I'm just going to have to live with some popcorn bud and maybe a few good nugs. I'm running these girls at about 1140 to 1260 ppm, watering with pH'd water only about three or four times during a 7 day week (they're drinking a little over a gallon a day each, but on odd cycles).

Okay, some pics of early flower formation, and then...peace.

- Peace!

Bah! I laughed when I saw the second picture

Do you know if contact with surfaces such as that can cause mold?
I have budsites and leaves touching the walls of my room all over the place, but theres not room to prevent it without having to cut off the branches/budsites/leaves. Should they be ok as long as my ventilation is alright?