So What Is The Best Type Of Hydro System To Use?

pazuzu420

pazuzu420

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johnman2880 said:
yea i have to cut a hole for intake to get cool air in.but im trying to figure out how to keep light from bleeding out of the closet cause i sleep in the room also.i heard cheesecloth will work but i dont see how white cloth could help lol
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I don't know why more people don't do this, but you can either open the closet door alittle and put in a piece of wood with the and the intake on it. If you attach it to the jamb side of the door you would be able to still open and close the door. Place a strip of weather stripping down the edge of you setup to make a good seal and then let the negative pressure pull the door shut into it. I come from a background in construction from framing to finish work. I guess I always think this stuff should be easier than it is for some people. Perhaps if I ever get some extra time I could do a DIY for it, one for sliding doors and one for swinging door.

If you look at the door jamb it will have a stop that the door hits against when closed. Another option would be to, I would go with two seperate peices for ease, cut large peices of plywood and attach them to this stop on the inside of the jamb. This would allow you to close the door completely and it not show your grow space in an emergency, but then allows you to cut a hole for a door and one for you exhaust and intake. You could even attach ducting by attaching a falange to the false door that allows you to remove the piece of duct work in an emergency so that you can close the door.

Just some ideas I had after reading multiple threads with the same situation.
 
malignant

malignant

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top feed so far still the most effective, and well the best ive used.. ebb and flow is easy and lazy but you run out of root space before you even bloom.. dwc is more hassle than its worth and i feel the same about aeroponics. just alot of work for little reward.
 
onegreenthumb

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malignant said:
im running 4 clones side by side, all kalichackra, 1 in 5 gal soil using roots organic, 1 dwc 5 gal, 1 aeroponic 5 gal, and 1 topfeed in a 5 gal bucket of hydroton.. all transplanted the same time and are under a 400mh for veg. the soil and the top feed have had the best growth, and are ready to flip. the aero and dwc still need a couple weeks. so honestly i would go with topfeed on a constant drip. i have 4 lines going to 1 plant and its massive. im using h&g aqua flakes, liquid karma, roots accelerator, and molasses. im not impressed with dwc and aero so far.
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That is crazy, soil? DWC will grow plants in half the time as soil.
 
johnman2880

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onegreenthumb said:
That is crazy, soil? DWC will grow plants in half the time as soil.
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yea i talked to a buddy of mine he turned me on to dwc and all i need so im headn to the hydro store tomorrow to get flora grow and bloom nutes and an air pump.i hear flora is the bomb but every1 on here says jacks is the bomb but ive seen the results of flora so ima go that route.
 
johnman2880

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pazuzu420 said:
I don't know why more people don't do this, but you can either open the closet door alittle and put in a piece of wood with the and the intake on it. If you attach it to the jamb side of the door you would be able to still open and close the door. Place a strip of weather stripping down the edge of you setup to make a good seal and then let the negative pressure pull the door shut into it. I come from a background in construction from framing to finish work. I guess I always think this stuff should be easier than it is for some people. Perhaps if I ever get some extra time I could do a DIY for it, one for sliding doors and one for swinging door.

If you look at the door jamb it will have a stop that the door hits against when closed. Another option would be to, I would go with two seperate peices for ease, cut large peices of plywood and attach them to this stop on the inside of the jamb. This would allow you to close the door completely and it not show your grow space in an emergency, but then allows you to cut a hole for a door and one for you exhaust and intake. You could even attach ducting by attaching a falange to the false door that allows you to remove the piece of duct work in an emergency so that you can close the door.

Just some ideas I had after reading multiple threads with the same situation.
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I have a sliding closet door and framed in behind it so i can keep light out soo i have 2 swinging doors behind my closet doors.so ima cut a hole in the swinging door i just need something to keep light from escaping to my room.
 
Springtucky

Springtucky

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malignant said:
ebb and flow is easy and lazy but you run out of root space before you even bloom...
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If plant numbers are not a factor, then I've found that if I take bigger clones and go straight to 12/12 (no vegetation time whatsoever) I can run 64 plants on a 4x4 in 5.5" square pots in hydroton and hit 10 grams per plant (2 4x4 tables under 1 1000w on light mover). They finish out nicely.
Malignant, are you using rockwool or hydroton on the top feed? I have read the combination of top feed (particularly the watering circles as opposed to cones) and hydroton is excellent. I have a waterfarm system that I'm waiting to try out.
 
johnman2880

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the system ive made is a DWC tote with 5 inch net pots and the grow medium is a soil mix heavy on perlite.about 50-50.its wat my buddy has been doing for years and his yields are excellent.im going to make another tote sometime and use hydroton and compare the 2 to each other.ill have pics of my setup tomorrow right now im waiting for the chlorine to die out of my water.
 
johnman2880

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Springtucky said:
You use soil in the net pots? Doesn't that make for some dirty muddy water in your resevoir?
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yes sir! lol its not as bad as you would think.plus weed loves it some soil.dirty water is not a problem long as the nutes are right,im using the flora series highly recomended by my friend its all he uses and my hydro store man said its the best.
 
drgreentm

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malignant said:
ive found dwc and aero to be super slow
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how does your top feed run in a 5 gal bucket? is it pulling water from the bucket to the top?? if so then this is basically running a dwc anyway and works well, in dwc if you run a side by side with 2 one having high D.O. and one with so so D.O. levels the higher one is going to kick the shit out of the so so one every time, if your soil plant is kicking the shit out of your dwc im assuming your D.O. levels are very low especially by two weeks, this is usually the other way around your soil plant should be a little behind all your others.
 
phishphan1995

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johnman2880 said:
the system ive made is a DWC tote with 5 inch net pots and the grow medium is a soil mix heavy on perlite.about 50-50.its wat my buddy has been doing for years and his yields are excellent.im going to make another tote sometime and use hydroton and compare the 2 to each other.ill have pics of my setup tomorrow right now im waiting for the chlorine to die out of my water.
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I love DWC. But sorry john, I think you should do some more reading and stop listing to your buddy for advice. I'm not trying to start sh**. Just my 2 cents. But GL with your endeavors. Jay
 
phishphan1995

phishphan1995

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Well if he has been doing it for years. He would no that dirt and hydro don't mix. But anyway do what you want. It's the only way you'll learn.
 
johnman2880

johnman2880

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phishphan1995 said:
Well if he has been doing it for years. He would no that dirt and hydro don't mix. But anyway do what you want. It's the only way you'll learn.
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actually this is only the second day and the roots have already hit the soup and the plants look fantastic! you all can use hydroton an all that all you want when i show you pics of the big stinky buds that I get you will quit scratching your heads lol.and yes hes been doing it longer than most people on here so he knows what hes doing.soil is plants natural allie.like peas an carrots as gump would say.its working great.most of the soil will be forced out as the roots grow its basically to hold the plants up and give them natural nutes.just keep an eye out I will be posting weekly
 
jordan293

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ime a system that has excellent results and is dirt cheap is bubbleponics u just use totes like u said u already had and a air pump and a couple bubble stones for fish tanks and some net pots Is all u need for explosive growth
 
johnman2880

johnman2880

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jordan293 said:
ime a system that has excellent results and is dirt cheap is bubbleponics u just use totes like u said u already had and a air pump and a couple bubble stones for fish tanks and some net pots Is all u need for explosive growth
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Isnt bubbleponics basically the same as dwc? I have the net pots slighly above the water so the bubbbles popping are wetting the roots.I havent looked into bubble ponics because i assumed they were the same as dwc
 
Springtucky

Springtucky

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thats still nasty, dont you have to top off w dirt as that shit turns to muck and falls in resevoir, eventually it would be chunks of perlite I'd think...plus doesnt shit like peat fuck w your ph level? or do you check ph and ec levels? I'd love to see those pics any day...IMO dirt in your resevoirs is a bad idea...why not just grow in a pot of soil, how beneficial is 5" of dirt and there is fertilizer in it also so do you add nutes or let them just fall into resevoir as the dirt is broke down and makes its way to your resevoir....how do you measure your ppms or tds with a bunch of friggin mud in water....make sure you post them pics bro.
If your buddy knows so much and been doing it for so much longer, then why come onto the boards to ask questions? As gump says stupid is as you stupid friend does lol.
 
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