Single Seed Center to USA. Taking long time....

I tried "420" when i ordered cause i hear it works at Attitude or Nirvana or some other bank. It didnt work.

I do have one concern, maybe someone can help. Greenhouse Seeds dyes their seeds right? Is that a new thing? Cause i got "The Church", and i remember seeing in high times, that its a dyed seed. The seeds i got were not dyed. Maybe they are older?

CSI Stickyicky said:

I tried "420" when i ordered cause i hear it works at Attitude or Nirvana or some other bank. It didnt work.

I do have one concern, maybe someone can help. Greenhouse Seeds dyes their seeds right? Is that a new thing? Cause i got "The Church", and i remember seeing in high times, that its a dyed seed. The seeds i got were not dyed. Maybe they are older?

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I am pretty sure they are only dyed in the colored seed variety pack so you can tell which color is which strain. My slh, bubba, and kings were not colored.

bump* because i know nothing about seed dyes! i hope its food-grade.

Yeah its only in the mixed pack so you can tell the difference

Oh, ok, cool. I figured it was something like that. BTW the Church is the only one to pop out a taproot so far. Keep it up, little buddy!!!

CSI Stickyicky said:

Oh, ok, cool. I figured it was something like that. BTW the Church is the only one to pop out a taproot so far. Keep it up, little buddy!!!

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Im rooting for all of them to root

You and me both. I think by tomorrow night i'll have taproots on all of them.

keep us posted then..

I subbed to that one

Well, shit. After that whole wait, my seeds arent germinating. They looked small and underdeveloped; i hope i didnt get bullshit seeds. I should have just popped up some bagseed; i'd be half way through flowering by now. I have never had seeds take this long to germinate, WTF?

CSI Stickyicky said:

Well, shit. After that whole wait, my seeds arent germinating. They looked small and underdeveloped; i hope i didnt get bullshit seeds. I should have just popped up some bagseed; i'd be half way through flowering by now. I have never had seeds take this long to germinate, WTF?

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damn that does not sound good at all..I was planning on ordering from them but i heard of seeds not germing for a couple of people..Thats crazy.

dude this really sux, so what are you going to do? this is not the first horror story ive heard

I bought 2 of each kind that i wanted, so if the first ones dont germ, i will try the second one. I only have one Afghan Kush Ryder, and i was really looking forward to getting an early harvest. If all else fails, i just got a bag of Blackberry Kush with a bunch of bagseed in it. It looks like good seed, and i can do it the old fashioned way, and select a mother from a bunch of sprouts. At least i know the mother is indica dominant, so it will stay (hopefully) short and bushy.

It sucks, because i put months of research into my seed selection. I picked something that had little stink while growing, was mold resistant, short and bushy, fast finishing, potent, descent yield, and it was a big deal to get feminized seed. I want to keep the number of plants to a certain amount or less, for legal reasons. If i have to go bagseed, i will for a round or two, but eventually i'll try ordering again. If nothing germs from single seed centre, i'll order from somewhere else obviously.

CSI Stickyicky said:

If nothing germs from single seed centre, i'll order from somewhere else obviously.

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For one you have to take into consideration that The Single Seed Center, like other seedbanks, purchase and then resell seeds produced by professional breeders so if there is a germination problem is should be traced back to the breeder(s) and not only to the reseller of that breeder or breeders products.

As for germination rates from seeds purchased from The Single Seed Center, I have used them numerous times and while I do not keep records I would say in my experience the seeds I purchased from The Single Seed Center have had a successful germination rate that has been about as equal as could be to any other high quality seedbank I have used or do currently use.

But if you do not have a level or degree of confidence in the breeders products The Single Seed Center resells as you need there are other seedbanks that are good options.

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I keep getting bad reports on bc bud depot. Non delivery or poor quality seeds if they do arrive.



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Peakseeds BC 4 star (****)
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Dutch Passion
Fantaseeds
Greenhouse
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KC Brains
Serious
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Weedseed (X)
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BCbuddepot (11, 10)
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Kindseed (10)
Laughing Moon (10, 11)
Seedbank Co uk (11)
Seedbank.com (10)
Topseeds (10)

Whoa, i'm honored, THE Brick Top stopped by my thread, even though i'm germinating indica lineage seeds.

I have seeds from World of Seeds, Barney's Farm, and Greenhouse Seeds, and none are germinating, so i doubt it's any one particular breeder. I'm thinking maybe i did something wrong. If these don't pop out taproots, and i go to round 2, i will try putting them directly in soilless mix, and place them under a light, instead of the paper towel method. And, i will put some bagseed in the same soilless mix, and if the bagseed pops, and the SSC seeds from 3 different breeders all dont pop, than i will know for sure.

Maybe it was my fault, maybe it was the breeders, maybe something happened during shipping. I'll find out within a few weeks.

CSI Stickyicky said:

Whoa, i'm honored, THE Brick Top stopped by my thread, even though i'm germinating indica lineage seeds.

I have seeds from World of Seeds, Barney's Farm, and Greenhouse Seeds, and none are germinating, so i doubt it's any one particular breeder. I'm thinking maybe i did something wrong. If these don't pop out taproots, and i go to round 2, i will try putting them directly in soilless mix, and place them under a light, instead of the paper towel method. And, i will put some bagseed in the same soilless mix, and if the bagseed pops, and the SSC seeds from 3 different breeders all dont pop, than i will know for sure.

Maybe it was my fault, maybe it was the breeders, maybe something happened during shipping. I'll find out within a few weeks.

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Just out of curiosity, were the Green House Seeds some of their colored seeds?

Not to be offensive but if seeds from three different breeders didn't pop I think it might be a case of 'operator error.' I am not much of a fan of many Green House Seeds strains and their colored beans in particular seem to have low germination rates. I am not much of a fan of Barney's Farm and because of that I have not tried enough of Barney's strains to know if they have problems on a regular basis. What few I have tried all popped. World of Seeds seeds should be expected to pop at a high rate.

They were not colored. Feminized The Church. The BF were LSD, and the WOS are 1 Afghan Kush Ryder, and 1 Afghan Kush Special. They were the free with order seeds.

I tried a different method. Normally, i do the paper towel on a plate method, or drop them straight into soil, but since i wanted to keep them separate, i put them in their own little paper towel and put them back in the little ziplock bag they came in. I soaked the paper towel and placed them all on my wireless router. I think i might have kept it too wet or something. Next round, i'll put them in soil, and try bagseed under the same conditions, so i will know for sure if it was me or the seeds.

CSI Stickyicky said:

They were not colored. Feminized The Church. The BF were LSD, and the WOS are 1 Afghan Kush Ryder, and 1 Afghan Kush Special. They were the free with order seeds.

I tried a different method. Normally, i do the paper towel on a plate method, or drop them straight into soil, but since i wanted to keep them separate, i put them in their own little paper towel and put them back in the little ziplock bag they came in. I soaked the paper towel and placed them all on my wireless router. I think i might have kept it too wet or something. Next round, i'll put them in soil, and try bagseed under the same conditions, so i will know for sure if it was me or the seeds.

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hopefully next round is better

CSI Stickyicky said:

They were not colored. Feminized The Church. The BF were LSD, and the WOS are 1 Afghan Kush Ryder, and 1 Afghan Kush Special. They were the free with order seeds.

I tried a different method. Normally, i do the paper towel on a plate method, or drop them straight into soil, but since i wanted to keep them separate, i put them in their own little paper towel and put them back in the little ziplock bag they came in. I soaked the paper towel and placed them all on my wireless router. I think i might have kept it too wet or something. Next round, i'll put them in soil, and try bagseed under the same conditions, so i will know for sure if it was me or the seeds.

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The reason I asked of the GHS seeds were colored is they seem to have a lower rate of germination than their other seeds so if they were colored I would think it less likely to be either 'operator error' or just bad luck.

What you said about possibly being too wet could have been the case if the seeds were all very fresh seeds. A very fresh seed will have a high moisture content and either dropping them into a glass or water to soak them or using some variation of the paper towel method where they remain too wet will do them in. On the other hand if you did receive old stock that was rather dried out possibly if you soaked them first and then switched to the paper towel method they might have popped.

You just never really know with beans.

Not that I am telling you or anyone that what I do is the best variation of the paper towel method, but it works for me ... and I will explain it as I do it when I have mixed beans and want to be able to tell them apart.

I use a freshly washed very well rinsed out wash cloth rather than a paper towel. The fibers of the wash cloth protrude and make better contact with more of the seed surface when covered.

I use a Tupperware container that when a standard sized wash cloth is folded in fourths the wash cloth lays flat on the bottom of the container and fills it up so there is no room for moisture to run from the wash cloth. I place the folded wash cloth in the Tupperware container folded in fourths lying flat on the bottom and I cover it with distilled water and let it sit until full soaked. I pour out the excess water and then let the container sit at an angle for about 10 minutes so any additional excess moisture will run to one side and then, if there is any, I pour that out, but I do not squeeze out any more water. What remains after the two pourings is what will remain.

I lift the top 'flap' of the folded wash cloth and that is where the seeds are placed, between what would be four layers of moist wash cloth after the top 'flap' of folded wash cloth is laid on top of the seeds.

I marked the top and lower portion of the container with a line and always seal it with the marks in line with each other. I place the mixed beans at positions of hours on a clock, 12:00, 3:00, 6:00 etc., or whatever spacing I need for the number of beans I am popping. Where the marked line is, is the 12:00 position. As I place each bean I make note of it's position on a small piece of paper that I then tape to the top/lid of the container so as each pops and is removed for planting I always know what each bean is and I can keep them all in one container and all will be in the same conditions/environment/temperature. Then it goes into a warm dark area and I cross my fingers, toes, legs and eyes and hope and wait.

I have never kept any records of germination rates but I would guess it to easily be in the upper 90% range. The only time I have ever had a MAJOR germination problem was years back when I purchased a pack of 10 seeds from Heaven's Stairway. Not one seed popped. I notified them and they sent another pack. Not one seed popped. I notified them again and they asked if I wanted to try a third pack or pick something else of the same price. I told them I wanted something different, slightly more expensive and I sent the additional amount of money, they sent the seeds, along with another pack of the same strain that would not pop. The different strain had 100% germination but not a single seed from the third pack of the same strain would pop. After 30 seeds from one breeder failed to pop I felt sure they were non-viable seeds and decided to not count their flaw against my general/roughly guessed successful germination percentage.

I do not recall the breeder's name now but when RC's 'empire' of Overgrown, Cannabis World, Heaven's Stairway and the Cbay auction were taken down, not all that long after the Marc Emery thing if I remember correctly, the breeder seemed to vanish from the face of the planet. I never saw any of his gear for sale anywhere after that. Before the downfall of RC's 'empire' I never purchased another pack of beans from that breeder.

While I do use my variation of the paper towel method fairly often I prefer germinating right in the soil/in the pots. When I do I have every bit as high of a germination rate and the plants seem to have more vigor. The only reason I do not always put seeds directly into my soil is because my 'soil' is not exactly soil and due to the drainage and evaporation rate if I want to start seeds that way I need to make a small 'pocket' of soil in the center of my growing medium that will retain moisture better/longer or else I need to keep dripping the area with the seeds with water very often to keep the seeds moist enough to pop, and the combination of the two is enough that at times I will instead use my variation of the paper towel method.

I hope you have much better luck next time!